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Old August 7th 07, 04:05 AM posted to rec.autos.antique
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wrote:

> Unfortunately I don't know a lot about antique cars. Can someone
> please tell me the year of the cars in these two photos. If I know
> the year of the newest vehicle in the photos I can narrow down the
> year


The dark car to the left of the pole in the third photo appears to be a 1940
Chevrolet.

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Old August 7th 07, 01:38 PM posted to rec.autos.antique
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I think you are incorrect George.

Whether it's a turn signal or just a running light/parking light,
Ford had the little torpedo shaped lights mounted on the tops of the
fenders from the factory. They may have been on 1940 models and were
definitely on 1941 models but were removed on 1942 and later models.

If you download these pictures and blow them up, the turn signal/light
can be seen clearly.

Also, 1942 thru 1948 Fords had thin chrome molding across the fenders
just above the wheel opening. The 1941's did not. This too can be seen
if the photo is blown up. I therefore stand by my assertion that the
white sedan is a 1941 model.

Taking the three photos as a whole, the total lack of any other
vehicles- Ford or otherwise - that were built after the war, points
strongly to these photos being taken just before or during WWII.

Forrest

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Old August 7th 07, 08:18 PM posted to rec.autos.antique
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On Aug 6, 2:12 pm, wrote:
> I am doing research on Shepherd Boats. My grandfather owned the
> company and they built that speedboat in 1939 (I am told)
>
> the pictures were taken in Niagara-on-the-Lake, Canada. About 20
> minutes from Niagara Falls
> If you look on the bottom left of the photo album it shows the
> location of where the photos were taken (see Album Location)


Pre-Auto Pact, cars for the Canadian market were made in Canada. There
were often different model names, trim details, and even model lines
(Meteor being the first that comes to mind). I'm not sure what the
situation was in the 1940s--whether some of the year-distinguishing
marks mentioned elsewhere in this thread may be misleading when
applied to Canadian cars.

Maybe your original photos are good enough to distinguish between
Ontario and New York licence plates? That should tell between
Canadian and US models, anyway. (Some of the cars may have driven
across from New York.)

Canada entered World War II in 1939 but the only source I can find
right now states that cars were manufactured until 1941. I wonder if
you'd see a scene with a couple of recreational boats, and a whole lot
of cars, out during war years when there's rationing.

Canadians also hang on to their cars for longer, so the picture may be
taken later in time than the models visible would indicate.

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Old August 7th 07, 08:56 PM posted to rec.autos.antique
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Good point about gasoline rationing. That makes a good case for the
photo not being shot during the war years. I still think it's probably
1940 or 1941. If it were 1949 like somebody told Dave, it seems there
would be at least one post war vehicle in the photo even if it were a
Canadian.

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Old August 7th 07, 09:10 PM posted to rec.autos.antique
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Dave, Ed makes a good point about the license plates. Back then they
got new ones every year and the date will be on them. What is the
highest resolution you can scan the photos? If you can scan them at
the highest possible resolution, maybe we could blow them up enough to
make out the plates. Then we wouldn't have to worry about what model
year vehicle it is - you would have your answer.

Forrest

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Old August 8th 07, 03:49 AM posted to rec.autos.antique
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I have contacted the museum and they are going to try to scan it at a
higher resolution. It is only a small photo so I don't think it will
come in much clearer

I am beginning to think is was from 1941. This boat was built in the
late 1930's and even though I don't know much about race boats I find
it hard to believe the boat would still be in action 10 years later.
I also went to the library and found the newspaper article stating
that there was a boat race in Niagara-on-the-Lake on July 21st,
1941. Now I have to see if the boat number for that race was 12-D as
shown in the photo. It seems Miss Shepherd had at least 3 numbers
painted on it through the years.
In the late 1930's it was A-10
in 1940 it was 12-B

thanks again for your help

Dave


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Old August 8th 07, 12:47 PM posted to rec.autos.antique
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That's quite interesting. If you find out for sure, please let us know
or if you need more help. I'm pretty sure it was 1941 too.

Forrest

 




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