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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:11:42 +0100, "Ronny" > wrote:
> >"John Prendergast" > wrote in message ... >> On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:06:22 +0100, "Ronny" > wrote: >> >>> >>>"Ian S" > wrote in message >>>news:J5%dd.141748$a85.54487@fed1read04... >>>> "Subba Rao" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>> >>>>> >>>>> If there are any owners (and non-owners), could you please share your >>>>> unbiased opinions and experience with Audi ownership? >>>>> >>>> I've been an Audi owner for over 18 years so I feel qualified to >>>> comment. >>>> Audis in general are known for pioneering engineering (quattro) and a >>>> good >>>> balance of power and handling. Fit and finish are excellent and recent >>>> models generally have fairly bold styling. They come with a >>>> comprehensive >>>> warranty (4 yr/ 50,000 miles in US) which is a good thing because their >>>> reliability is pretty middle-of-the-pack and repairs are costly. While >>>> quattro is very reliable, mundane items like door handles falling off >>>> (old >>>> models), coil failure, control arm failure, and oil leaks plague the >>>> owner. >>>> In 73,000 miles I have had a defective clutch throwout bearing, failure >>>> of >>>> ventilation fan motor, radiator replacement and will soon be getting the >>>> V6 >>>> "external lubrication system" rectified. Brake pads and rotors have been >>>> replaced front and rear and I expect the fronts will need it again >>>> within >>>> 10,000 miles. To sum up, Audis are fun to drive but if you want the >>>> ultimate >>>> in reliability, plan to keep the car beyond the warranty period and want >>>> outstanding trade-in value, you should look elsewhere. >>>> >>>> >>> >>>I've owned 2 Audis now, a B5 A4 and a B6 A4 and I must say they are the >>>most >>>reliable cars i have owned, they have the best build quality in a car I >>>have >>>owned, they are the cheapest to repair as well, companies like GSF / >>>Eurocarparts make owning Audi's a cheap car to run, I now have a 1.8T >>>quattro and will be putting 180k miles on this one before i trade it in, >>>and >>>am not worried at all. >>> >>>My last V6 Audi went to 161k miles, and still drove like new, it was >>>quiet, >>>fast, rust free, and as long as you look after the car it will last as >>>long >>>as you want it too >> >> I've just bought a 1996 A6 2.6 V6 with 192,000 miles on the clock. >> There aren't many makes I'd even consider with that kind of mileage. >> > >John you havnt just bought my old Audi have you ? That's just what I was thinking :-) >But then I sold it with 162k miles, it was a quattro though, 2.6 v6 12valve I bought mine last month but no, it's not a quattro. I wish the previous owner had included the adaptor for the anti-theft wheel bolts, but as it turned out the local Audi dealer had one in stock for a tenner (including spare bolt). |
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"John Prendergast" > wrote in message ... > On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:11:42 +0100, "Ronny" > wrote: > >> >>"John Prendergast" > wrote in message ... >>> On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:06:22 +0100, "Ronny" > wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>"Ian S" > wrote in message >>>>news:J5%dd.141748$a85.54487@fed1read04... >>>>> "Subba Rao" > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> If there are any owners (and non-owners), could you please share your >>>>>> unbiased opinions and experience with Audi ownership? >>>>>> >>>>> I've been an Audi owner for over 18 years so I feel qualified to >>>>> comment. >>>>> Audis in general are known for pioneering engineering (quattro) and a >>>>> good >>>>> balance of power and handling. Fit and finish are excellent and recent >>>>> models generally have fairly bold styling. They come with a >>>>> comprehensive >>>>> warranty (4 yr/ 50,000 miles in US) which is a good thing because >>>>> their >>>>> reliability is pretty middle-of-the-pack and repairs are costly. While >>>>> quattro is very reliable, mundane items like door handles falling off >>>>> (old >>>>> models), coil failure, control arm failure, and oil leaks plague the >>>>> owner. >>>>> In 73,000 miles I have had a defective clutch throwout bearing, >>>>> failure >>>>> of >>>>> ventilation fan motor, radiator replacement and will soon be getting >>>>> the >>>>> V6 >>>>> "external lubrication system" rectified. Brake pads and rotors have >>>>> been >>>>> replaced front and rear and I expect the fronts will need it again >>>>> within >>>>> 10,000 miles. To sum up, Audis are fun to drive but if you want the >>>>> ultimate >>>>> in reliability, plan to keep the car beyond the warranty period and >>>>> want >>>>> outstanding trade-in value, you should look elsewhere. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>I've owned 2 Audis now, a B5 A4 and a B6 A4 and I must say they are the >>>>most >>>>reliable cars i have owned, they have the best build quality in a car I >>>>have >>>>owned, they are the cheapest to repair as well, companies like GSF / >>>>Eurocarparts make owning Audi's a cheap car to run, I now have a 1.8T >>>>quattro and will be putting 180k miles on this one before i trade it in, >>>>and >>>>am not worried at all. >>>> >>>>My last V6 Audi went to 161k miles, and still drove like new, it was >>>>quiet, >>>>fast, rust free, and as long as you look after the car it will last as >>>>long >>>>as you want it too >>> >>> I've just bought a 1996 A6 2.6 V6 with 192,000 miles on the clock. >>> There aren't many makes I'd even consider with that kind of mileage. >>> >> >>John you havnt just bought my old Audi have you ? > > That's just what I was thinking :-) > >>But then I sold it with 162k miles, it was a quattro though, 2.6 v6 >>12valve > > I bought mine last month but no, it's not a quattro. I wish the > previous owner had included the adaptor for the anti-theft wheel > bolts, but as it turned out the local Audi dealer had one in stock for > a tenner (including spare bolt). > I Part ex'd mine for 2.5k it was a nice one though, was yours cheaper? |
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 15:48:02 +0100, "Ronny" > wrote:
> >"John Prendergast" > wrote in message ... >> On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:11:42 +0100, "Ronny" > wrote: >> >>> >>>"John Prendergast" > wrote in message ... >>>> On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:06:22 +0100, "Ronny" > wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>"Ian S" > wrote in message >>>>>news:J5%dd.141748$a85.54487@fed1read04... >>>>>> "Subba Rao" > wrote in message >>>>>> ... >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If there are any owners (and non-owners), could you please share your >>>>>>> unbiased opinions and experience with Audi ownership? >>>>>>> >>>>>> I've been an Audi owner for over 18 years so I feel qualified to >>>>>> comment. >>>>>> Audis in general are known for pioneering engineering (quattro) and a >>>>>> good >>>>>> balance of power and handling. Fit and finish are excellent and recent >>>>>> models generally have fairly bold styling. They come with a >>>>>> comprehensive >>>>>> warranty (4 yr/ 50,000 miles in US) which is a good thing because >>>>>> their >>>>>> reliability is pretty middle-of-the-pack and repairs are costly. While >>>>>> quattro is very reliable, mundane items like door handles falling off >>>>>> (old >>>>>> models), coil failure, control arm failure, and oil leaks plague the >>>>>> owner. >>>>>> In 73,000 miles I have had a defective clutch throwout bearing, >>>>>> failure >>>>>> of >>>>>> ventilation fan motor, radiator replacement and will soon be getting >>>>>> the >>>>>> V6 >>>>>> "external lubrication system" rectified. Brake pads and rotors have >>>>>> been >>>>>> replaced front and rear and I expect the fronts will need it again >>>>>> within >>>>>> 10,000 miles. To sum up, Audis are fun to drive but if you want the >>>>>> ultimate >>>>>> in reliability, plan to keep the car beyond the warranty period and >>>>>> want >>>>>> outstanding trade-in value, you should look elsewhere. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I've owned 2 Audis now, a B5 A4 and a B6 A4 and I must say they are the >>>>>most >>>>>reliable cars i have owned, they have the best build quality in a car I >>>>>have >>>>>owned, they are the cheapest to repair as well, companies like GSF / >>>>>Eurocarparts make owning Audi's a cheap car to run, I now have a 1.8T >>>>>quattro and will be putting 180k miles on this one before i trade it in, >>>>>and >>>>>am not worried at all. >>>>> >>>>>My last V6 Audi went to 161k miles, and still drove like new, it was >>>>>quiet, >>>>>fast, rust free, and as long as you look after the car it will last as >>>>>long >>>>>as you want it too >>>> >>>> I've just bought a 1996 A6 2.6 V6 with 192,000 miles on the clock. >>>> There aren't many makes I'd even consider with that kind of mileage. >>>> >>> >>>John you havnt just bought my old Audi have you ? >> >> That's just what I was thinking :-) >> >>>But then I sold it with 162k miles, it was a quattro though, 2.6 v6 >>>12valve >> >> I bought mine last month but no, it's not a quattro. I wish the >> previous owner had included the adaptor for the anti-theft wheel >> bolts, but as it turned out the local Audi dealer had one in stock for >> a tenner (including spare bolt). >> > >I Part ex'd mine for 2.5k it was a nice one though, was yours cheaper? A mere GBP 1750 and worth every penny. |
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"Subba Rao" > wrote in message ... > Hi, > > I do not own an Audi yet but have wanted one since I have first set my > eyes on them 20 years ago. Now I am planning (pretty close) to buy a > car. Over the years people have told me that Audi is a problem car with > stories such as: You tend to spend lot of money on repairs. : They > have bad performance : Audi's quality is less than mediocre (sp) and > they charge a lot to fix the problem ....etc etc. Such stories kept > coming at me, yet I still want to have an Audi. > > If there are any owners (and non-owners), could you please share your > unbiased opinions and experience with Audi ownership? > > PS - I am middle aged man and am considered middle class. Don't know if > this will help. > -- > SR > > Please remove SPAMBUSTER to reply via email. I purchased a A4 1.9TDI sport from new in March this year. The only problem I encountered was a rattle from the dash. I took it back and the dealer replaced the whole dashboard. After many troubles with Peugeots and trying to get them fixed, I found this service to be great. I've had no problems with the dealers at all. Economy is great, on a long run recently I got about 66mpg. I think the car is great and love driving it. I would definitely recommend an Audi to anyone. Hope this helps Chris. |
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"Ronny" > wrote in message
... > > "Ian S" > wrote in message > news:J5%dd.141748$a85.54487@fed1read04... > > "Subba Rao" > wrote in message > > ... > > > >> > >> If there are any owners (and non-owners), could you please share your > >> unbiased opinions and experience with Audi ownership? > >> > > I've been an Audi owner for over 18 years so I feel qualified to comment. > > Audis in general are known for pioneering engineering (quattro) and a good > > balance of power and handling. Fit and finish are excellent and recent > > models generally have fairly bold styling. They come with a comprehensive > > warranty (4 yr/ 50,000 miles in US) which is a good thing because their > > reliability is pretty middle-of-the-pack and repairs are costly. While > > quattro is very reliable, mundane items like door handles falling off (old > > models), coil failure, control arm failure, and oil leaks plague the > > owner. > > In 73,000 miles I have had a defective clutch throwout bearing, failure of > > ventilation fan motor, radiator replacement and will soon be getting the > > V6 > > "external lubrication system" rectified. Brake pads and rotors have been > > replaced front and rear and I expect the fronts will need it again within > > 10,000 miles. To sum up, Audis are fun to drive but if you want the > > ultimate > > in reliability, plan to keep the car beyond the warranty period and want > > outstanding trade-in value, you should look elsewhere. > > > > > > I've owned 2 Audis now, a B5 A4 and a B6 A4 and I must say they are the most > reliable cars i have owned, they have the best build quality in a car I have > owned, they are the cheapest to repair as well, companies like GSF / > Eurocarparts make owning Audi's a cheap car to run, I now have a 1.8T > quattro and will be putting 180k miles on this one before i trade it in, and > am not worried at all. > > My last V6 Audi went to 161k miles, and still drove like new, it was quiet, > fast, rust free, and as long as you look after the car it will last as long > as you want it too > > hth > > Ronny I'm glad your Audis have been trouble-free but by all surveys, Audis are, at best middle-of-the-pack, as far as reliability goes and my experience bears that out. Has my experience been unusual? Well, the items I mentioned as failing are well known problems with late model Audis (past decade). If you don't believe me, just go to audiworld.com and do a keyword search on things like "oil leak", "control arm", and "coil pack." Granted, the latter was the subject of a recall by VW but good grief, coil failure? I thought the bugs had been worked out of that technology the better part of a century ago. The former two issues each generate nearly 5000 hits when searched at audiworld.com. I haven't had a problem with oil leaks on a car since my British cars of the 1960's and 70's. My 1998 A4 has been leaking oil for nearly two years (started around 55,000 miles) and I will finally take it in to an independent mechanic to get it fixed. I will say that the basic drivetrains are solid especially the old 5 cylinder ones and getting them to go for a couple hundred thousand miles is not hard to do. But I would also assert that most modern cars of reasonable quality will also do that if maintained well. |
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Subba Rao > wrote: > Hi, > > I do not own an Audi yet but have wanted one since I have first set my > eyes on them 20 years ago. Now I am planning (pretty close) to buy a > car. Over the years people have told me that Audi is a problem car with > stories such as: You tend to spend lot of money on repairs. : They > have bad performance : Audi's quality is less than mediocre (sp) and > they charge a lot to fix the problem ....etc etc. Such stories kept > coming at me, yet I still want to have an Audi. > > If there are any owners (and non-owners), could you please share your > unbiased opinions and experience with Audi ownership? > > PS - I am middle aged man and am considered middle class. Don't know if > this will help. We have two: 2001 A6 and 2001 A4 The short answer is that they have been fine as long as they have been in the full repair/warranty period. The A4 has been trouble free except for some annoying rattles that a $35000 car should not have. The A6 has basically had the front-end rebuilt at Audi's expense and now that it is out of warranty, has started to have electical problems. We've found an extremely reliable private mechanic who is planning an addition on his house based on the fact that we will be bringing him and Audi A6. Speaking of cost, a shopping cart ding in a parking lot cost $980 to fix. This sort of says it all. OTOH, the driving experience is great for us. My A4 has some nice Borbet wheels and drives like it is on rails. The A6 is smooth as silk and just got a new set of tires at 50000 miles (and its second new battery). It will need brakes soon, and the dreaded timing belt replacement is not far off, though. But, when next summer rolls around, the A4 is being replaced by a non-Audi. I just can't justify that kind of cost to operate a car. We're keeping the A6 only because the mileage is so high, we would take a big hit on getting rid of it. They are cars we really want to love, but sometimes wish we had something else. -- Wayne Crannell Xxxxxxx, TX |
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Ian S wrote:
>failing are well known problems with late model Audis (past decade). If you >don't believe me, just go to audiworld.com and do a keyword search on things >like "oil leak", "control arm", and "coil pack." Granted, the latter was the And how many people complain there versus the number of people driving Audis? The folks that drive the troublefree one for xxx1000 km never do write. It's just plain normal. Regards Wolfgang -- 1999 Audi A6 Avant TDI |
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On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:43:20 -0500, Subba Rao
> wrote: >Hi, > >I do not own an Audi yet but have wanted one since I have first set my >eyes on them 20 years ago. Now I am planning (pretty close) to buy a >car. Over the years people have told me that Audi is a problem car with >stories such as: You tend to spend lot of money on repairs. : They >have bad performance : Audi's quality is less than mediocre (sp) and >they charge a lot to fix the problem ....etc etc. Such stories kept >coming at me, yet I still want to have an Audi. > >If there are any owners (and non-owners), could you please share your >unbiased opinions and experience with Audi ownership? > >PS - I am middle aged man and am considered middle class. Don't know if >this will help. My 1987 Audi 5000 runs and handles like a brand new car. The are some weak spots, like doorhandles, window power switches. The timing belt, a maintenance item, broke after after 17 years. Blame myself on that one! The car body has no rust whatsover. (it is galvanized) The handling and driving is smooth. Very enjoyable! I bought the car when 60 minutes ran a special about the so called "un-intended acceleration" I figured that was a hate campaign against an upcoming success of the Audi 5000 in the domestic car market. Many dealers went out out business due to this massive propraganda. I figured that was a good opportunity to make the purchase, took advantage of a $5000 discount. And, guess what, the whole thing was a hoax, but surely caused a lot of collateral damage. |
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"Wayne Crannell" > wrote in message
... > Speaking of cost, a shopping cart ding in a parking lot cost $980 to > fix. This sort of says it all. > I had a ding but went to one of these paintless dent repair places and was amazed at how they were able to remove the dent completely. I could not tell where it had been. It's worth a try in many cases. > OTOH, the driving experience is great for us. My A4 has some nice Borbet > wheels and drives like it is on rails. The A6 is smooth as silk and just > got a new set of tires at 50000 miles (and its second new battery). It > will need brakes soon, and the dreaded timing belt replacement is not > far off, though. IIRC, the 1998 A4 owners' manual stated that the TB should be replaced at 90,000 miles but that was subsequently reduced to 60,000 miles. It's also an expensive job compared to most TB replacements, I believe. > > But, when next summer rolls around, the A4 is being replaced by a > non-Audi. I just can't justify that kind of cost to operate a car. We're > keeping the A6 only because the mileage is so high, we would take a big > hit on getting rid of it. > > They are cars we really want to love, but sometimes wish we had > something else. I still think my 98 A4 sport is the best looking sedan out there. I like the balanced performance of the car but Audi has a lot of competition now and since I'm not fond of the new Audi styling, I'll be looking elsewhere for a replacement .. > -- > Wayne Crannell > Xxxxxxx, TX |
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>>>"Subba Rao" > wrote in message ... >>> >>> >>>>If there are any owners (and non-owners), could you please share your >>>>unbiased opinions and experience with Audi ownership? > 3 Audis: 1982 Coupe: 112K miles, began having electrical problems, needed clutch soon and front end was never right after a "leave the road" almost rollover. Only regret was poor resale due to late 80's Audi problem with 5000's alledgedly engaging in gear spontaneously. 1995 A6 186k miles with routine maintenance and routine oil leak. Wife wanted 10 years or 200k mikes but was rear ended by 18 wheeler. (car's third major hit) Survived well and was driveable but was totalled by insurance. Drove it onto the flatbed! 2003 A4 30k miles Change oil at 5k with synthetic, not originial 10k recommendation. New tire due to side wall damage from road hazzard. Of the three the coupe was the best looking. People would stop & comment on it. The A6 was an industrable tank and the A4 is the most fun to drive. Have a friend who is an Audi mechanic and a good dealership. Parts are still expensive compared to my daughter's Jetta. Resale is always better on a Beemer. Hope this helps. Jerry |
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