so I visted a ford dealer tonight...

I stopped in and looked at the GT500 they had on the floor comparing
what was different suspension and braking wise compared to the shelby GT
next to it (the warmed over mustang GT for nearly 10 grand extra on the
appendix sticker). Eventually a sales guy notices me... I ask
immediately if they are still surcharging for it. This knocks him a bit
off balance. He says they are still going above sticker... limited
production of 1,000 units a year.... same old story. Then tells me every
make surcharges like this... arg. Another sales guy joined in, I said
I'll wait until they aren't being surcharged any more... And I didn't
like the color... actually I don't like any of the colors. I could
probably learn to like the grabber orange.. but that's like saying 'look
at me to the cops'.

1,000 units... my ass. I've seen wayyyyyyy too many of them in person
and far far and away too many advertised for there to be that few. I
can't find a production value online but it isn't that low... It would
just be nice their sales personel (not to mention ford itself with it's
broken promises) wouldn't try BS.

There's a reason I haven't bought a car in so long and this is a big
part of it.

Lol... found it on ebay... car at that dealership... they want 5 grand
over sticker.

Scott in SoCal wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:36:05 -0500,
> (Brent P) wrote:
>
>
>>Lol... found it on ebay... car at that dealership... they want 5 grand
>>over sticker.
>
>
> I wonder when Hertz will start selling their used rental units?

Don't forget that every Hertz Shelby has auto, not stick.
--
Cheers, Bob

In article >, Scott in SoCal wrote:
>On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:47:17 -0400, Bob Willard
> wrote:
>
>>Scott in SoCal wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:36:05 -0500,
>>> (Brent P) wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Lol... found it on ebay... car at that dealership... they want 5 grand
>>>>over sticker.
>>>
>>>
>>> I wonder when Hertz will start selling their used rental units?
>>
>>Don't forget that every Hertz Shelby has auto, not stick.
>
>The plus side is the Hertz units are the only ones with any likelihood
>of becoming truly collectible in the future.

They are all future collectibles, everything ford's marketing says is
special will be worth 6 figures or more in today's money... that's what
ford marketing wants everyone to believe....

The only way any of them will be collectable is the way that people sell
some of their old cars today.... it's only one six of 1968 hardtops with
a 390V8, 3spd, dogdish hubcaps, green interior, red exterior, and power
brakes! There are so many 'special' mustangs that aren't really all
that special which in sum total are alot of cars.

To me, the GT500 is a mustang with a bigger engine, bigger brakes and
some mild suspension upgrades... ok, theres the appearance package too.
Maybe I am wierd because I view it and the other 'special' mustangs as
just options in the entire line, the way most of the original mustang
variants were. It's not like these cars are built to satisify some
racing rule like the BOSS 302 or BOSS 429 were. Its not like the cars
will become rare because most of them will be used up and crushed like
mach 1's were. Most of the GT500s and other special mustangs of this era
won't be used up and destroyed... people were told they were special so
they will be used sparingly and a good number will be sealed up in
bubbles like some collectable coin.

I just don't see any reason they will be anything like the cars of the
60s.

On Mar 12, 10:36 pm, (Brent P)
wrote:
> I stopped in and looked at the GT500
>
> Eventually a sales guy notices me...

And if he'd "noticed" you a moment sooner you'd be bitching he was all
over you.

> I ask
> immediately if they are still surcharging for it. This knocks him a bit
> off balance.

Yeah, most people don't reveal they're looking at more car than they
can afford in the second they open their mouth.

> And I didn't
> like the color... actually I don't like any of the colors.

Heard- "I can't afford it, but this is why I'd like you to believe I'm
not buying it".

> It would
> just be nice their sales personel (not to mention ford itself with it's
> broken promises) wouldn't try BS.

You wouldn't want them to lag behind some of their "prospective
customers", would you...?

> There's a reason I haven't bought a car in so long and this is a big
> part of it.

Sure.

> Lol... found it on ebay... car at that dealership... they want 5 grand
> over sticker.

And...?

"If you don't deserve a car like this, or if it's simply beyond your
means, perhaps I can show you something more modest...?"
-----

- gpsman

On Mar 13, 12:35*pm, gpsman > wrote:

(a bunch of ****)

are you always a douchebag, or only when you post to Usenet?

In article >, N8N wrote:
>On Mar 13, 12:35*pm, gpsman > wrote:
>
>(a bunch of ****)
>
>are you always a douchebag, or only when you post to Usenet?

Ok Nate, I looked at gpstroll's post... when you snip him like that I
know it has to be funny.

lol.... I guess gpstroll missed this:
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s...pidMustang.jpg
when Scott posted it.

"Brent P" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, Scott in SoCal
> wrote:
>>On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:47:17 -0400, Bob Willard
> wrote:
>>
>>>Scott in SoCal wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:36:05 -0500,
>>>> (Brent P) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Lol... found it on ebay... car at that dealership... they want 5 grand
>>>>>over sticker.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I wonder when Hertz will start selling their used rental units?
>>>
>>>Don't forget that every Hertz Shelby has auto, not stick.
>>
>>The plus side is the Hertz units are the only ones with any likelihood
>>of becoming truly collectible in the future.
>
> They are all future collectibles, everything ford's marketing says is
> special will be worth 6 figures or more in today's money... that's what
> ford marketing wants everyone to believe....
>
> The only way any of them will be collectable is the way that people sell
> some of their old cars today.... it's only one six of 1968 hardtops with
> a 390V8, 3spd, dogdish hubcaps, green interior, red exterior, and power
> brakes! There are so many 'special' mustangs that aren't really all
> that special which in sum total are alot of cars.
>
> To me, the GT500 is a mustang with a bigger engine, bigger brakes and
> some mild suspension upgrades... ok, theres the appearance package too.
> Maybe I am wierd because I view it and the other 'special' mustangs as
> just options in the entire line, the way most of the original mustang
> variants were. It's not like these cars are built to satisify some
> racing rule like the BOSS 302 or BOSS 429 were. Its not like the cars
> will become rare because most of them will be used up and crushed like
> mach 1's were. Most of the GT500s and other special mustangs of this era
> won't be used up and destroyed... people were told they were special so
> they will be used sparingly and a good number will be sealed up in
> bubbles like some collectable coin.
>
> I just don't see any reason they will be anything like the cars of the
> 60s.

Excellent points! It's so true nobody knew the older 60's Mustangs would be
so sought after so little efforts were made to maintain there integrity.
Also these cars became legends out in the field so to speak were as these
newer models are riding on their reputation, pun intended. I personally feel
let down from Ford after speaking to a few of their reps at the Auto Show
stating they were going to meet the demands of the consumer producing as
many Shelby's as the consumers wanted, hence no production numbers. Maybe
that was the case with Ford but not Shelby? Who knows, then Ford can still
produce their own legends with out him. I am so fed up with Shelby's tactics
I would rather own a Saleen.

On Mar 13, 2:40*pm, (Brent P)
wrote:
> In article >, N8N wrote:
> >On Mar 13, 12:35*pm, gpsman > wrote:
>
> >(a bunch of ****)
>
> >are you always a douchebag, or only when you post to Usenet?
>
> Ok Nate, I looked at gpstroll's post... when you snip him like that I
> know it has to be funny.
>
> lol.... I guess gpstroll missed this:http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s...pidMustang.jpg
> when Scott posted it.

The funny thing is I think his little head would asplode if he knew
how much my house was worth. Of course, you could possibly make the
case that you'd have to be a dumbass to buy real estate near DC in the
first place, but I have this thing about being jobless and homeless...

nate

gpsman wrote:
>
> "If you don't deserve a car like this, or if it's simply beyond your
> means, perhaps I can show you something more modest...?"
> -----

Perhaps we can show you the door.


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Brent P wrote:
> In article >, N8N wrote:
>> On Mar 13, 12:35 pm, gpsman > wrote:
>>
>> (a bunch of ****)
>>
>> are you always a douchebag, or only when you post to Usenet?
>
> Ok Nate, I looked at gpstroll's post... when you snip him like that I
> know it has to be funny.
>
> lol.... I guess gpstroll missed this:
> http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s...pidMustang.jpg
> when Scott posted it.
>

I didn't know there was a difference between a GT500 and a SHelby...

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