Article says he was SPEEDING

"The accident occurred at about 11:15 p.m., on the southbound lanes of
the freeway, just south of the Costa Mesa Freeway. According to the
California Highway Patrol, the driver of the 2004 Infiniti G35 was
traveling at a high rate of speed when it hit a guardrail and a
concrete wall. "

Nothing spontaneous about it. The criminals were speeding and now
they're dead and good riddance. Don't mourn their deaths. That's for
criminal coddlers.

In article . com>,
"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" > wrote:

> "The accident occurred at about 11:15 p.m., on the southbound lanes of
> the freeway, just south of the Costa Mesa Freeway. According to the
> California Highway Patrol, the driver of the 2004 Infiniti G35 was
> traveling at a high rate of speed when it hit a guardrail and a
> concrete wall. "
>
> Nothing spontaneous about it. The criminals were speeding and now
> they're dead and good riddance. Don't mourn their deaths. That's for
> criminal coddlers.

That doesn't say he was speeding...

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling 4 feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect
if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

In article . com>,
"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" > wrote:

> "The accident occurred at about 11:15 p.m., on the southbound lanes of
> the freeway, just south of the Costa Mesa Freeway. According to the
> California Highway Patrol, the driver of the 2004 Infiniti G35 was
> traveling at a high rate of speed when it hit a guardrail and a
> concrete wall. "
>
> Nothing spontaneous about it. The criminals were speeding and now
> they're dead and good riddance. Don't mourn their deaths. That's for
> criminal coddlers.

Oh, and one more thing.

It is a tested fact that people going n percentiles slower than the
median speed of traffic have just as many accidents as people going n
percentiles faster. Only the ones going slower are more likely to be
involved in multi-car (i.e. more than one) collisions, whereas the ones
going faster are more likely to be involved in single-car collisions
where they hurt only themselves.

So... ...who's more dangerous?

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling 4 feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect
if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

"Alan Baker" > wrote in message
...
> It is a tested fact that people going n percentiles slower than the
> median speed of traffic have just as many accidents as people going n
> percentiles faster. Only the ones going slower are more likely to be
> involved in multi-car (i.e. more than one) collisions, whereas the ones
> going faster are more likely to be involved in single-car collisions
> where they hurt only themselves.
>
>

85 percentile theory is all BS... if 85 percent of the sheep walked off a
cliff, would you?

Magnulus wrote:

> 85 percentile theory is all BS

On what do you base that statement. Lookup section 2B.11 in the
millenium edition of the MUTCD to prove yourself wrong.

BTW, do you still believe that airbags are designed to only protect
belted occupants?

Alan Baker wrote:
>
> It is a tested fact that people going n percentiles slower than the
> median speed of traffic have just as many accidents as people going n

> percentiles faster. Only the ones going slower are more likely to be
> involved in multi-car (i.e. more than one) collisions, whereas the
ones
> going faster are more likely to be involved in single-car collisions
> where they hurt only themselves.

HAHA. Tested fact??? HAHA.

In article >,
"Magnulus" > wrote:

> "Alan Baker" > wrote in message
> ...
> > It is a tested fact that people going n percentiles slower than the
> > median speed of traffic have just as many accidents as people going n
> > percentiles faster. Only the ones going slower are more likely to be
> > involved in multi-car (i.e. more than one) collisions, whereas the ones
> > going faster are more likely to be involved in single-car collisions
> > where they hurt only themselves.
> >
> >
>
> 85 percentile theory is all BS... if 85 percent of the sheep walked off a
> cliff, would you?

It's not BS. It's measured fact.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling 4 feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect
if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

"Alan Baker" > wrote in message
...
> In article . com>,
> "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" > wrote:
>
> > "The accident occurred at about 11:15 p.m., on the southbound lanes of
> > the freeway, just south of the Costa Mesa Freeway. According to the
> > California Highway Patrol, the driver of the 2004 Infiniti G35 was
> > traveling at a high rate of speed when it hit a guardrail and a
> > concrete wall. "
> >
> > Nothing spontaneous about it. The criminals were speeding and now
> > they're dead and good riddance. Don't mourn their deaths. That's for
> > criminal coddlers.
>
> Oh, and one more thing.
>
> It is a tested fact that people going n percentiles slower than the
> median speed of traffic have just as many accidents as people going n
> percentiles faster. Only the ones going slower are more likely to be
> involved in multi-car (i.e. more than one) collisions, whereas the ones
> going faster are more likely to be involved in single-car collisions
> where they hurt only themselves.
>
> So... ...who's more dangerous?
>
Cite?

In article .com>,
"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" > wrote:

> Alan Baker wrote:
> >
> > It is a tested fact that people going n percentiles slower than the
> > median speed of traffic have just as many accidents as people going n
>
> > percentiles faster. Only the ones going slower are more likely to be
> > involved in multi-car (i.e. more than one) collisions, whereas the
> ones
> > going faster are more likely to be involved in single-car collisions
> > where they hurt only themselves.
>
> HAHA. Tested fact??? HAHA.

He

<http://www.tfhrc.gov/safety/speed/speed.htm>

"Speed and the Incidence of Crashes
In a landmark study of speed and crashes involving 10,000 drivers on
600 miles (970 kilometers) of rural highways, Solomon (1964) found a
relationship between vehicle speed and crash incidence that is
illustrated by a U-shaped curve. Crash rates were lowest for travel
speeds near the mean speed of traffic, and increased with greater
deviations above and below the mean. The estimated travel speed from the
accident records were compared to the speeds measured at representative
sites within each study section. The comparisons showed that
crash-involved drivers were over-represented in both high- and low-
speed categories of the speed distribution.

Crash-involvement rates decreased with increasing speeds up to 65 mi/h
(105 km/h), then increased at higher speeds. Further, Solomon reported
that the results of his study showed that "low speed drivers are more
likely to be involved in accidents than relatively high speed drivers."
Cirillo (1968) in a similar analysis of 2,000 vehicles involved in
daytime crashes on interstate freeways confirmed Solomon's results,
extending the U-shaped curve to interstate freeways, as illustrated in
figure 1. The analysis was limited to crashes involving two or more
vehicles traveling in the same direction."

Note the graph. Note that the lowest incidence of accidents actually
occurs for people traveling slightly *above* the median speed.

IOW, people traveling 10mph slower than the speed limit should be
prosecuted as more dangerous to safety than people traveling 10mph
faster.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling 4 feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect
if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

In article >,
"Daniel W. Rouse Jr." > wrote:

> "Alan Baker" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article . com>,
> > "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" > wrote:
> >
> > > "The accident occurred at about 11:15 p.m., on the southbound lanes of
> > > the freeway, just south of the Costa Mesa Freeway. According to the
> > > California Highway Patrol, the driver of the 2004 Infiniti G35 was
> > > traveling at a high rate of speed when it hit a guardrail and a
> > > concrete wall. "
> > >
> > > Nothing spontaneous about it. The criminals were speeding and now
> > > they're dead and good riddance. Don't mourn their deaths. That's for
> > > criminal coddlers.
> >
> > Oh, and one more thing.
> >
> > It is a tested fact that people going n percentiles slower than the
> > median speed of traffic have just as many accidents as people going n
> > percentiles faster. Only the ones going slower are more likely to be
> > involved in multi-car (i.e. more than one) collisions, whereas the ones
> > going faster are more likely to be involved in single-car collisions
> > where they hurt only themselves.
> >
> > So... ...who's more dangerous?
> >
> Cite?

<http://www.tfhrc.gov/safety/speed/speed.htm>

Start with that.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling 4 feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect
if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."