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Old July 17th 11, 03:45 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
Lon
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....after all they make vehicles that allow you to go offroad, but more
importantly get back on road.

But who, or what bean-counting genius thought a little rubber band
inside a plastic plug was an adequate liquid seal for a connector stuck
down on the bottom of the drive train where it frequently gets dragged
thru literally miles and miles of slushy snow, dunked in creeks, etc.
etc. etc.

Have they never seen or considered military grade waterproof connectors.

[intermittent speedometer, works fine when hot, but not if cold and/or
wet]
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Old July 17th 11, 04:56 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
DougW[_2_]
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Lon wrote:
> ...after all they make vehicles that allow you to go offroad, but more
> importantly get back on road.
>
> But who, or what bean-counting genius thought a little rubber band
> inside a plastic plug was an adequate liquid seal for a connector
> stuck down on the bottom of the drive train where it frequently gets
> dragged thru literally miles and miles of slushy snow, dunked in
> creeks, etc. etc. etc.


Probably the same bright fellow who used a short wire to route the
O2 sensor on my ZJ, putting the plug up next to the exhaust header
or that click-on plastic with rubber o-rings are a far superior
option to say AN....

> Have they never seen or considered military grade waterproof
> connectors.


Probably, but the beancounters like to save $10 or so on the whole vehicle.

> [intermittent speedometer, works fine when hot, but not if cold and/or
> wet]


GPS?

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Old July 17th 11, 09:26 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
Will Honea[_1_]
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Lon wrote:

> ...after all they make vehicles that allow you to go offroad, but more
> importantly get back on road.
>
> But who, or what bean-counting genius thought a little rubber band
> inside a plastic plug was an adequate liquid seal for a connector stuck
> down on the bottom of the drive train where it frequently gets dragged
> thru literally miles and miles of slushy snow, dunked in creeks, etc.
> etc. etc.
>
> Have they never seen or considered military grade waterproof connectors.
>
> [intermittent speedometer, works fine when hot, but not if cold and/or
> wet]


Shade-tree fix: clean both halves of the connector really well, then fill
the cavity with silicone grease (Sparkplug grease) and re-connect it. That
takes care of the water as it pushes the grease into the wire channels
during reconnect.

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Old July 18th 11, 05:30 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
Budd Cochran[_2_]
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Ah, Will ... ya beat me to it.

Budd

"Will Honea" > wrote in message
...
> Lon wrote:
>
>> ...after all they make vehicles that allow you to go offroad, but more
>> importantly get back on road.
>>
>> But who, or what bean-counting genius thought a little rubber band
>> inside a plastic plug was an adequate liquid seal for a connector stuck
>> down on the bottom of the drive train where it frequently gets dragged
>> thru literally miles and miles of slushy snow, dunked in creeks, etc.
>> etc. etc.
>>
>> Have they never seen or considered military grade waterproof connectors.
>>
>> [intermittent speedometer, works fine when hot, but not if cold and/or
>> wet]

>
> Shade-tree fix: clean both halves of the connector really well, then fill
> the cavity with silicone grease (Sparkplug grease) and re-connect it.
> That
> takes care of the water as it pushes the grease into the wire channels
> during reconnect.
>
> --
> WHonea
>
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> ---



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Old July 19th 11, 06:47 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
Dale Beckett[_6_]
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Default No offense to the fine engineers at Jeep

Will Honea said:

> Lon wrote:
>
>> ...after all they make vehicles that allow you to go offroad, but more
>> importantly get back on road.
>>
>> But who, or what bean-counting genius thought a little rubber band
>> inside a plastic plug was an adequate liquid seal for a connector stuck
>> down on the bottom of the drive train where it frequently gets dragged
>> thru literally miles and miles of slushy snow, dunked in creeks, etc.
>> etc. etc.
>>
>> Have they never seen or considered military grade waterproof
>> connectors.
>>
>> [intermittent speedometer, works fine when hot, but not if cold and/or
>> wet]

>
> Shade-tree fix: clean both halves of the connector really well, then
> fill the cavity with silicone grease (Sparkplug grease) and re-connect
> it. That takes care of the water as it pushes the grease into the wire
> channels during reconnect.


Funny you would mention that.

About two years ago the ignition module gave up on my '85 CJ, which was
purchased new. When I pulled the connectors apart, they were filled with
that gooky stuff, and looked brand new inside after 24 winters.

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Old July 20th 11, 01:08 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
Lon
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Default No offense to the fine engineers at Jeep

On 7/18/2011 23:47, Dale Beckett wrote:
> Will Honea said:
>
>> Lon wrote:
>>
>>> ...after all they make vehicles that allow you to go offroad, but more
>>> importantly get back on road.
>>>
>>> But who, or what bean-counting genius thought a little rubber band
>>> inside a plastic plug was an adequate liquid seal for a connector stuck
>>> down on the bottom of the drive train where it frequently gets dragged
>>> thru literally miles and miles of slushy snow, dunked in creeks, etc.
>>> etc. etc.
>>>
>>> Have they never seen or considered military grade waterproof
>>> connectors.
>>>
>>> [intermittent speedometer, works fine when hot, but not if cold and/or
>>> wet]

>>
>> Shade-tree fix: clean both halves of the connector really well, then
>> fill the cavity with silicone grease (Sparkplug grease) and re-connect
>> it. That takes care of the water as it pushes the grease into the wire
>> channels during reconnect.

>
> Funny you would mention that.
>
> About two years ago the ignition module gave up on my '85 CJ, which was
> purchased new. When I pulled the connectors apart, they were filled with
> that gooky stuff, and looked brand new inside after 24 winters.
>

I used Dow electrical grease, having great access to electronics stuff.
Still, keeping the GPS in the Jeep for a while until I trust the
speedo not to crap out on moist days again. It did snow Sunday up on
Peak to Peak [on July freaking 17th!] but not enough to slush up much of
anything.

 




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