Corvette ZR1 : Sold

Uncle_vito wrote:
> Well you tell me, why don't 18 year olds drive new Corvettes. Because
> they can get cars just as fast for half the money (Mustang). GM has
> basically abandoned these kids.
>
> The 'cool' factor of Corvettes has disappeared because only old farts
> drive them. Kids do not want to drive what old farts drive.
>
> Same for Cadillac. Look at the GM on star commercial for Cadillac.
> Grandma is trapped in the car and can't get out. MY GAWD. GM marketing
> must be made ot TOTAL IDIOTS.
>
> You being excepted when it comes to age and the Corvette.
>
> Vito
If you hate GM that much then what are you doing here? You just like
showing everybody how much of an asshole/idiot you are?
--
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If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.

You mean other than the fact that it is fiction. Or then maybe you
really do believe it. I suppose your being biased has nothing to do with
your distorted sense of reality. Never mind, your opinion is noted and
your contribution has been assigned an appropriate value.

Uncle_vito wrote:
> Since more Toyotas than GM vehicles are sold in the world, there are a lot
> of folks that agree with me.
>
> GM seems to be able to only sell trucks and Corvettes and a few Cadillacs.
> The Corvettes and Cadillacs are only sold to those folks over 65 years of
> age.
>
> Anything wrong with this picture?
>
> Vito
>
>
> "'Key" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> "Uncle_vito" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Because I do not like GM. They are a second rate car company.
>>>
>>> V
>> thats your opinion of GM.
>> not everyones opinion...
>>
>> --
>> 'Key
>> =====
>>
>>>
>>> "CardsFan" > wrote in message
>>> news:sYzlj.5639$5h6.2487@trndny09...
>>>> "Uncle_vito" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Only thing is is that there is a big difference between the very first
>>>>> Corvette and this ZR1, the 3rd incarnation of that performance option.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, typical of GM, they are likely to produce a 2010 ZR1 with 660
>>>>> HP rather than the 630hp of this 2009 car, effectively killing the
>>>>> value of this guys million dollar car.
>>>> He doesn't care. Why do you?
>>>>
>>>> AJM
>>>> '93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp (both tops)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Would you believe that I am a member of a Corvette club and have been so for
15 years. I own a mid year and AFAIAC GM quit building bitchen corvettes
right about 1972. The C4, C5 and C6's are real yawners. GM is still
controlled by the bean counters. Look at the interior of a C6 and tell me
this is GM's best. They are still holding back. I will buy a Vette the day
that GM goes balls out on the design like they did from 63-67.

Cheers

Vito


"Andrew DeFaria" > wrote in message
...
Uncle_vito wrote:
Well you tell me, why don't 18 year olds drive new Corvettes. Because they
can get cars just as fast for half the money (Mustang). GM has basically
abandoned these kids.

The 'cool' factor of Corvettes has disappeared because only old farts drive
them. Kids do not want to drive what old farts drive.

Same for Cadillac. Look at the GM on star commercial for Cadillac. Grandma
is trapped in the car and can't get out. MY GAWD. GM marketing must be made
ot TOTAL IDIOTS.

You being excepted when it comes to age and the Corvette.

Vito

If you hate GM that much then what are you doing here? You just like showing
everybody how much of an asshole/idiot you are?
--
Andrew DeFaria
If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.

good reply, Charlie. about the generational thing.
that's why all the buyers of classic American muscle cars, are guys who
salivated over them in the 60s and 70s.

lol - that's why I'm absolutley in love with the Ferrari 308 (from the
80s)...partly because it was driven by the sexy blonde, Christy Brinkley, in
the movie National Lampoons Vacation. http://youtube.com/watch?v=C1Zp7vfyew8
and driven by James Woods in the movie Against All Odds
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ws1Pt5GCwhI
both early/mid 80s movies.




as far as tuner cars go, i hate 'em - they have no soul, character,
genuineity...as the stock cars do.









"Charlie" > wrote in message
...
> I'm not sure you have it right on this. Kids today want the cars that
> were promoted in the movies they see, like in Fast & Furious. I was the
> same when we were growing up, the Corvette was the elusive vehicle of the
> movies and many kids wanted them and got them. My son loves my Corvettes,
> but when he went to get a new car, he chose a Subaru WRX turbo (235 hp and
> much lighter than a Corvette). And, these kids are spending well over
> what a Corvette costs on these cars. It's just a generational thing.
>
> "Uncle_vito" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Well you tell me, why don't 18 year olds drive new Corvettes. Because
>> they can get cars just as fast for half the money (Mustang). GM has
>> basically abandoned these kids.
>>
>> The 'cool' factor of Corvettes has disappeared because only old farts
>> drive them. Kids do not want to drive what old farts drive.
>>
>> Same for Cadillac. Look at the GM on star commercial for Cadillac.
>> Grandma is trapped in the car and can't get out. MY GAWD. GM marketing
>> must be made ot TOTAL IDIOTS.
>>
>> You being excepted when it comes to age and the Corvette.
>>
>> Vito
>>
>>
>> "Charlie" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>I beg your pardon, I've owned Corvettes since I was 18 and am only 52
>>>now.
>>>
>>> "Uncle_vito" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Since more Toyotas than GM vehicles are sold in the world, there are a
>>>> lot of folks that agree with me.
>>>>
>>>> GM seems to be able to only sell trucks and Corvettes and a few
>>>> Cadillacs. The Corvettes and Cadillacs are only sold to those folks
>>>> over 65 years of age.
>>>>
>>>> Anything wrong with this picture?
>>>>
>>>> Vito
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "'Key" > wrote in message
>>>> . ..
>>>>>
>>>>> "Uncle_vito" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Because I do not like GM. They are a second rate car company.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> V
>>>>>
>>>>> thats your opinion of GM.
>>>>> not everyones opinion...
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> 'Key
>>>>> =====
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "CardsFan" > wrote in message
>>>>>> news:sYzlj.5639$5h6.2487@trndny09...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Uncle_vito" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> Only thing is is that there is a big difference between the very
>>>>>>>> first Corvette and this ZR1, the 3rd incarnation of that
>>>>>>>> performance option.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, typical of GM, they are likely to produce a 2010 ZR1 with
>>>>>>>> 660 HP rather than the 630hp of this 2009 car, effectively killing
>>>>>>>> the value of this guys million dollar car.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He doesn't care. Why do you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AJM
>>>>>>> '93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp (both tops)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Against all odds. Rachel Ward. Almost as pretty as the Ferrari. Great
Movie.

Vito


"Lawrence Lugar" > wrote in message
...
> good reply, Charlie. about the generational thing.
> that's why all the buyers of classic American muscle cars, are guys who
> salivated over them in the 60s and 70s.
>
> lol - that's why I'm absolutley in love with the Ferrari 308 (from the
> 80s)...partly because it was driven by the sexy blonde, Christy Brinkley,
> in the movie National Lampoons Vacation.
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=C1Zp7vfyew8
> and driven by James Woods in the movie Against All Odds
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=ws1Pt5GCwhI
> both early/mid 80s movies.
>
>
>
>
> as far as tuner cars go, i hate 'em - they have no soul, character,
> genuineity...as the stock cars do.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Charlie" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I'm not sure you have it right on this. Kids today want the cars that
>> were promoted in the movies they see, like in Fast & Furious. I was the
>> same when we were growing up, the Corvette was the elusive vehicle of the
>> movies and many kids wanted them and got them. My son loves my
>> Corvettes, but when he went to get a new car, he chose a Subaru WRX turbo
>> (235 hp and much lighter than a Corvette). And, these kids are spending
>> well over what a Corvette costs on these cars. It's just a generational
>> thing.
>>
>> "Uncle_vito" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Well you tell me, why don't 18 year olds drive new Corvettes. Because
>>> they can get cars just as fast for half the money (Mustang). GM has
>>> basically abandoned these kids.
>>>
>>> The 'cool' factor of Corvettes has disappeared because only old farts
>>> drive them. Kids do not want to drive what old farts drive.
>>>
>>> Same for Cadillac. Look at the GM on star commercial for Cadillac.
>>> Grandma is trapped in the car and can't get out. MY GAWD. GM marketing
>>> must be made ot TOTAL IDIOTS.
>>>
>>> You being excepted when it comes to age and the Corvette.
>>>
>>> Vito
>>>
>>>
>>> "Charlie" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>I beg your pardon, I've owned Corvettes since I was 18 and am only 52
>>>>now.
>>>>
>>>> "Uncle_vito" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Since more Toyotas than GM vehicles are sold in the world, there are a
>>>>> lot of folks that agree with me.
>>>>>
>>>>> GM seems to be able to only sell trucks and Corvettes and a few
>>>>> Cadillacs. The Corvettes and Cadillacs are only sold to those folks
>>>>> over 65 years of age.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anything wrong with this picture?
>>>>>
>>>>> Vito
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "'Key" > wrote in message
>>>>> . ..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Uncle_vito" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Because I do not like GM. They are a second rate car company.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> V
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thats your opinion of GM.
>>>>>> not everyones opinion...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> 'Key
>>>>>> =====
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "CardsFan" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:sYzlj.5639$5h6.2487@trndny09...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Uncle_vito" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> Only thing is is that there is a big difference between the very
>>>>>>>>> first Corvette and this ZR1, the 3rd incarnation of that
>>>>>>>>> performance option.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, typical of GM, they are likely to produce a 2010 ZR1 with
>>>>>>>>> 660 HP rather than the 630hp of this 2009 car, effectively killing
>>>>>>>>> the value of this guys million dollar car.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He doesn't care. Why do you?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> AJM
>>>>>>>> '93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp (both tops)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Uncle_vito wrote:
> Would you believe that I am a member of a Corvette club and have been
> so for 15 years. I own a mid year and AFAIAC GM quit building bitchen
> corvettes right about 1972. The C4, C5 and C6's are real yawners. GM
> is still controlled by the bean counters. Look at the interior of a C6
> and tell me this is GM's best. They are still holding back. I will buy
> a Vette the day that GM goes balls out on the design like they did
> from 63-67.
I see. So you're an old fart who cannot get past the '60's! So instead,
for some 40 years now you cannot take your arthritic fingers away from
this newsgroup nor Corvettes. Sad and pathetic! Sounds to me you're just
an over the hill, washed up moron who likes to complain.
--
Andrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com>
When there's a will, I want to be in it.

Uncle_vito wrote:

>Since more Toyotas than GM vehicles are sold in the world, there are a lot
>of folks that agree with me.
>
>
Ummmmmm....... might wanna think that through....
Don't you think the cost of a say a Toyota Camry -vs- Vette might have
something to do with that...
There are also less McLarens sold in the US than Camrys..... LOL

>GM seems to be able to only sell trucks and Corvettes and a few Cadillacs.
>The Corvettes and Cadillacs are only sold to those folks over 65 years of
>age.
>
>Anything wrong with this picture?
>
>
No.......... it's called disposable income.
Which generally comes with age and work history. DUH!

>Vito
>
>
>"'Key" > wrote in message
...
>
>
>>"Uncle_vito" > wrote in message
om...
>>
>>
>>>Because I do not like GM. They are a second rate car company.
>>>
>>>V
>>>
>>>
>>thats your opinion of GM.
>>not everyones opinion...
>>
>>--
>>'Key
>>=====
>>
>>
>>
>>>"CardsFan" > wrote in message
>>>news:sYzlj.5639$5h6.2487@trndny09...
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Uncle_vito" > wrote in message
>>>>news:6didnX46ApP3XwvanZ2dnUVZ_v6rnZ2d@linkline .com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Only thing is is that there is a big difference between the very first
>>>>>Corvette and this ZR1, the 3rd incarnation of that performance option.
>>>>>
>>>>>Also, typical of GM, they are likely to produce a 2010 ZR1 with 660
>>>>>HP rather than the 630hp of this 2009 car, effectively killing the
>>>>>value of this guys million dollar car.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>He doesn't care. Why do you?
>>>>
>>>>AJM
>>>>'93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp (both tops)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>


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Actually I said more Toyotas than GM vehicles (not necessarily corvettes).
Maybe I am rushing it a bit. I believe Toyota is number 2 in sales (ahead
of Ford) but likely still behind GM but I do not know how much.

Vito__

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"Ric Seyler" > wrote in message
...
Uncle_vito wrote:

Since more Toyotas than GM vehicles are sold in the world, there are a lot
of folks that agree with me.

Ummmmmm....... might wanna think that through....
Don't you think the cost of a say a Toyota Camry -vs- Vette might have
something to do with that...
There are also less McLarens sold in the US than Camrys..... LOL

GM seems to be able to only sell trucks and Corvettes and a few Cadillacs.
The Corvettes and Cadillacs are only sold to those folks over 65 years of
age.

Anything wrong with this picture?

No.......... it's called disposable income.
Which generally comes with age and work history. DUH!

Vito

Adtually I am 54 years old. I bought my midyear 15 years ago and it has
almost tripled in value.

Reason I have not purchased a 2008 is for 3 reasons. 1) I will look 10 years
older driving it. 2) It will lose 25% of its value when I leave the
dealership 3) I see no elegant technology in the car. Just brute force
cubic inches with pushrods and 2 valves/cylinder (like a Chevy Tahoe)

Vito
"Andrew DeFaria" > wrote in message
...
Uncle_vito wrote:
Would you believe that I am a member of a Corvette club and have been so
for 15 years. I own a mid year and AFAIAC GM quit building bitchen corvettes
right about 1972. The C4, C5 and C6's are real yawners. GM is still
controlled by the bean counters. Look at the interior of a C6 and tell me
this is GM's best. They are still holding back. I will buy a Vette the day
that GM goes balls out on the design like they did from 63-67.

I see. So you're an old fart who cannot get past the '60's! So instead,
for some 40 years now you cannot take your arthritic fingers away from this
newsgroup nor Corvettes. Sad and pathetic! Sounds to me you're just an over
the hill, washed up moron who likes to complain.

--
Andrew DeFaria
When there's a will, I want to be in it.

Uncle_vito wrote:
> Adtually I am 54 years old.
Like I said - you're an old fart!
> I bought my midyear 15 years ago and it has almost tripled in value.
BFD!
> Reason I have not purchased a 2008 is for 3 reasons. 1) I will look 10
> years older driving it.
How does that work? Nevermind.
> 2) It will lose 25% of its value when I leave the dealership
Every car does that!
> 3) I see no elegant technology in the car.
That's because you're ****ing blind.
> Just brute force cubic inches with pushrods and 2 valves/cylinder
> (like a Chevy Tahoe)
Right. Later Vito - you're history!
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