ARRRRRGH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DAMN RADIO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have a 2005 Mustang GT with the Shaker 500 radio. Up until the
warrantee expired EVERYTHING was working super. Now that it has
37,300 miles on it, the radio is doing crazy things. When I start the
car, the radio won't come back on. After about 30 - 60 seconds, it
comes on and everything needs to be reset.

When I turn on the ignition, the radio works as usual, but as soon as
I engage the starter, it dies and won't come back on until the long
delay occurs and then it's as if it has reset itself, the clock is at
12:00 and it is on 580 AM

Any ideas what it might be? I've checked all the fuses, swapped out
the relay in the kick panel with one from the under-dash relays,
nothing changes... I hate to take it to the dealer and get a new
radio if it's only a simple fix. Suggestions on where to look?

thanks

Ever replace the battery? Might want to check the terminals for corrosion.

Just my 2cents......

Mark



> wrote in message
...
> DAMN RADIO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> I have a 2005 Mustang GT with the Shaker 500 radio. Up until the
> warrantee expired EVERYTHING was working super. Now that it has
> 37,300 miles on it, the radio is doing crazy things. When I start the
> car, the radio won't come back on. After about 30 - 60 seconds, it
> comes on and everything needs to be reset.
>
> When I turn on the ignition, the radio works as usual, but as soon as
> I engage the starter, it dies and won't come back on until the long
> delay occurs and then it's as if it has reset itself, the clock is at
> 12:00 and it is on 580 AM
>
> Any ideas what it might be? I've checked all the fuses, swapped out
> the relay in the kick panel with one from the under-dash relays,
> nothing changes... I hate to take it to the dealer and get a new
> radio if it's only a simple fix. Suggestions on where to look?
>
> thanks

On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:51:23 -0400, "Mark M"
> wrote:

>Ever replace the battery? Might want to check the terminals for corrosion.
>
>Just my 2cents......
>
>Mark
>
>
>
> wrote in message
.. .
>> DAMN RADIO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> I have a 2005 Mustang GT with the Shaker 500 radio. Up until the
>> warrantee expired EVERYTHING was working super. Now that it has
>> 37,300 miles on it, the radio is doing crazy things. When I start the
>> car, the radio won't come back on. After about 30 - 60 seconds, it
>> comes on and everything needs to be reset.
>>
>> When I turn on the ignition, the radio works as usual, but as soon as
>> I engage the starter, it dies and won't come back on until the long
>> delay occurs and then it's as if it has reset itself, the clock is at
>> 12:00 and it is on 580 AM
>>
>> Any ideas what it might be? I've checked all the fuses, swapped out
>> the relay in the kick panel with one from the under-dash relays,
>> nothing changes... I hate to take it to the dealer and get a new
>> radio if it's only a simple fix. Suggestions on where to look?
>>
>> thanks


OK, there was a little bit of corrosion on the negative terminal, the
pos terminal was sparkling clean. I got it brushed off, put some
terminal corrosion spray on both of them, hooked the battery back up
and same thing. It's as if there is a relay somewhere sticking when
the starter is engaged causing the radio to go "dead" it should come
back on when the key is returned to the on position, but it doesn't.
It stays "dead" for about 30-60 seconds, then when it comes back on,
it is "reset" to AM 580 and the clock is at 12:00. somewhere, it
appears to be losing power, but I can't figure out where. Any more
ideas?

On Sep 29, 12:45 am, wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:51:23 -0400, "Mark M"
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> >Ever replace the battery? Might want to check the terminals for corrosion.
>
> >Just my 2cents......
>
> >Mark
>
> > wrote in message
> .. .
> >> DAMN RADIO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> >> I have a 2005 Mustang GT with the Shaker 500 radio. Up until the
> >> warrantee expired EVERYTHING was working super. Now that it has
> >> 37,300 miles on it, the radio is doing crazy things. When I start the
> >> car, the radio won't come back on. After about 30 - 60 seconds, it
> >> comes on and everything needs to be reset.
>
> >> When I turn on the ignition, the radio works as usual, but as soon as
> >> I engage the starter, it dies and won't come back on until the long
> >> delay occurs and then it's as if it has reset itself, the clock is at
> >> 12:00 and it is on 580 AM
>
> >> Any ideas what it might be? I've checked all the fuses, swapped out
> >> the relay in the kick panel with one from the under-dash relays,
> >> nothing changes... I hate to take it to the dealer and get a new
> >> radio if it's only a simple fix. Suggestions on where to look?
>
> >> thanks
>
> OK, there was a little bit of corrosion on the negative terminal, the
> pos terminal was sparkling clean. I got it brushed off, put some
> terminal corrosion spray on both of them, hooked the battery back up
> and same thing. It's as if there is a relay somewhere sticking when
> the starter is engaged causing the radio to go "dead" it should come
> back on when the key is returned to the on position, but it doesn't.
> It stays "dead" for about 30-60 seconds, then when it comes back on,
> it is "reset" to AM 580 and the clock is at 12:00. somewhere, it
> appears to be losing power, but I can't figure out where. Any more
> ideas?

My guess is the Smart Junction Box... it basically controls all kinds
of stuff and can do some very odd stuff when it goes bad... mine for
example caused my enviro panel to not work, but only when it was
freezing out... one it warmed up (like in the shop) it would work
fine.

I would take it to the dealership and even though you are technically
out of your warranty period ask them what they can do to help you
out... especially since you are barely out... I was at 40,000 miles
when mine went. I asked the dealership what they could do to help me
out (the orig estimate was $500 or so!), especially since a SJB
shouldn't go bad at 40K miles... the service guys made a phone call...
next thing i know Ford gives me a FREE SJB and I just had to pay for
labor... so it definitely never hurts to ask..

John S. wrote:
\
> I would take it to the dealership and even though you are technically
> out of your warranty period ask them what they can do to help you
> out... especially since you are barely out... I was at 40,000 miles
> when mine went. I asked the dealership what they could do to help me
> out (the orig estimate was $500 or so!), especially since a SJB
> shouldn't go bad at 40K miles... the service guys made a phone call...
> next thing i know Ford gives me a FREE SJB and I just had to pay for
> labor... so it definitely never hurts to ask..
Yep, I got a heater core for half the cost, when I talked to the dealer
it was just a few weeks out of warranty.

--
Tropic Green Y2K Mustang GT
W/bits & pieces
http://tinyurl.com/2uqoat

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:57:49 -0700, GILL >
wrote:

>John S. wrote:
>\
>> I would take it to the dealership and even though you are technically
>> out of your warranty period ask them what they can do to help you
>> out... especially since you are barely out... I was at 40,000 miles
>> when mine went. I asked the dealership what they could do to help me
>> out (the orig estimate was $500 or so!), especially since a SJB
>> shouldn't go bad at 40K miles... the service guys made a phone call...
>> next thing i know Ford gives me a FREE SJB and I just had to pay for
>> labor... so it definitely never hurts to ask..
>Yep, I got a heater core for half the cost, when I talked to the dealer
>it was just a few weeks out of warranty.



OK Now I feel like a DUMBASS <blush> I fought the corrosion
thing, went online, found the radio self test procedure, did that,
fought the internet some more, found the Smart Junction Box (which
isn't too intelligent) schematic and wiring diagram, did all of the
testing, thinking, etc. This morning, the radio reset itself to AM 580
and the clock was flashing 12:00. After work I went into the
dealership today, talked to the service writer, he said, "Change the
battery" He wrote it up, it was right at closing time, a mechanic was
still on the clock, took it back, put a new battery in it in about 5
minutes, brought it out and every time since then ( I have been
checking it frequently) it's started, the radio has done it's thing
and all is well. Hopefully, this "saga" is behind us and I'm happy
with Ford again (at least till the next issue) LOL

Thanks for pointing me in directions, it was the battery/corrosion
issue all along, just didn't recognize it last night.

> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:57:49 -0700, GILL >
> wrote:
>
>>John S. wrote:
>>\
>>> I would take it to the dealership and even though you are technically
>>> out of your warranty period ask them what they can do to help you
>>> out... especially since you are barely out... I was at 40,000 miles
>>> when mine went. I asked the dealership what they could do to help me
>>> out (the orig estimate was $500 or so!), especially since a SJB
>>> shouldn't go bad at 40K miles... the service guys made a phone call...
>>> next thing i know Ford gives me a FREE SJB and I just had to pay for
>>> labor... so it definitely never hurts to ask..
>>Yep, I got a heater core for half the cost, when I talked to the dealer
>>it was just a few weeks out of warranty.
>
>
>
> OK Now I feel like a DUMBASS <blush> I fought the corrosion
> thing, went online, found the radio self test procedure, did that,
> fought the internet some more, found the Smart Junction Box (which
> isn't too intelligent) schematic and wiring diagram, did all of the
> testing, thinking, etc. This morning, the radio reset itself to AM 580
> and the clock was flashing 12:00. After work I went into the
> dealership today, talked to the service writer, he said, "Change the
> battery" He wrote it up, it was right at closing time, a mechanic was
> still on the clock, took it back, put a new battery in it in about 5
> minutes, brought it out and every time since then ( I have been
> checking it frequently) it's started, the radio has done it's thing
> and all is well. Hopefully, this "saga" is behind us and I'm happy
> with Ford again (at least till the next issue) LOL
>
> Thanks for pointing me in directions, it was the battery/corrosion
> issue all along, just didn't recognize it last night.
>


Hey, I'm glad you got it fixed, my stock battery went bad in my 2005 GT
and it did strange things, I charged it and took a charge but 24-48 hrs
later it was dead.
That's why i pointed you towards the battery issue.

Take care...Mark