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dabeeo wrote:
> I just had the front end alignment done, it's a miracle! the death wobble
> is gone,now do you suppose the ball joints need replacing? or which parts
> should I concentrate on first?
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Unless I had impacted something with that one wobbly wheel so I was
expecting trouble, I would sure be looking for the worn out part that
caused that one side to go off.

Lots of times the rubber boot will be torn where the bad ball joint is
or it will be showing grease leaking out all over it. Other than that
you need a pry bar to make them move if they are bad.

You could also have a bushing someplace that has slop or has split also.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
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Now when you say ball joint do you mean top side or lower or all? providing
your talking about near the spindle.

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On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 01:09:13 -0400, "dabeeo" >
wrote:

>Now when you say ball joint do you mean top side or lower or all? providing
>your talking about near the spindle.


You would do well not to folow Mikes advise, He really is a little
more than a troll with a big ego that realy does not know much and
does very little work himself on 4x4 short of maybe a bulb or using
some duct tape on them. You may have some worn parts but the death
wobble is caused with dynamic forces built up in front end due to
alignment issues and it makes front end unstable. Certain combos or
caster, camber, toe in, lift, tires and speed can produce nasty
results. Many like troll Mike here try to treat the symptoms because
they do not understand the underlying cause of the problem so they try
to use brute force fixes to hold instabilty in check rather than get
to the root of the problem.
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On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:31:27 -0400, "dabeeo" >
wrote:

>I just had the front end alignment done, it's a miracle! the death wobble
>is gone,now do you suppose the ball joints need replacing? or which parts
>should I concentrate on first?


No miracle at all. The wooble is from aligment issues most of the
time. As far as joints, if it tracks and handles okay, I would not be
concerned about it.
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dabeeo wrote:
> Now when you say ball joint do you mean top side or lower or all? providing
> your talking about near the spindle.
>
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When you looked at it, which part of the tire was obviously tilted
compared to the other side? If the top looked out, then suspect the top
ball joint, above the spindle, if the bottom was out, then the bottom
joint or even a bushing on things like a track bar depending on the lean
angle.

The bottom ball joint usually wears out first. Lots of times the rubber
boot will be damaged on a bad one.

Had you hit anything with that tire recently?

The alignment doesn't just don't 'go off' bad enough to set up a Death
Wobble and start a leaning/tilted tire for no reason.

Having a front tire fall off is no fun....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

WOW!!talk about an asshole calling someone a troll.

of all the people on this newsgroup that give free advice, i think the only
one better than Mike to listen to is Jim Worman.

and listening to the snowman is like playing Russian Roulette with all six
cylinders loaded. you know exactly what you are going to get, and it ain't
gonna be good.
"SnoMan" > wrote in message
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> On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 01:09:13 -0400, "dabeeo" >
> wrote:
>
>>Now when you say ball joint do you mean top side or lower or all?
>>providing
>>your talking about near the spindle.
>
>
> You would do well not to folow Mikes advise, He really is a little
> more than a troll with a big ego that realy does not know much and
> does very little work himself on 4x4 short of maybe a bulb or using
> some duct tape on them. You may have some worn parts but the death
> wobble is caused with dynamic forces built up in front end due to
> alignment issues and it makes front end unstable. Certain combos or
> caster, camber, toe in, lift, tires and speed can produce nasty
> results. Many like troll Mike here try to treat the symptoms because
> they do not understand the underlying cause of the problem so they try
> to use brute force fixes to hold instabilty in check rather than get
> to the root of the problem.
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:07:06 -0400, "Tom" >
wrote:

>WOW!!talk about an asshole calling someone a troll.
>
>of all the people on this newsgroup that give free advice, i think the only
>one better than Mike to listen to is Jim Worman.


Oh Mike has a Troll buddy!!! Good for him !!! Someone let you out
from under bridge too? I would expect your answer for a Troll because
you have no grasp of dynamics involved here. TO you a car is something
you dirive and if it works great but otherwise when some tries to
explain how and why things work you lack of understanding makes you
feel insecrue so you attack what you do not understand (since it is
beyond your comprehension is must be wrong right?) rather that zipping
your lip and maybe learning something.
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and you are probably the same asshole that tried to make me look bad a few
years ago on a ford truck site claiming i was giving bad info to the guy
that wanted to plow with a lifted truck. i told him he would be fine, and
the snowblo dude said i was an idiot that did not know what i was talking
about. within 2 days, i was proven rite, and snowblo was proven an asshole
troll.
"SnoMan" > wrote in message
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> On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:07:06 -0400, "Tom" >
> wrote:
>
>>WOW!!talk about an asshole calling someone a troll.
>>
>>of all the people on this newsgroup that give free advice, i think the
>>only
>>one better than Mike to listen to is Jim Worman.
>
>
> Oh Mike has a Troll buddy!!! Good for him !!! Someone let you out
> from under bridge too? I would expect your answer for a Troll because
> you have no grasp of dynamics involved here. TO you a car is something
> you dirive and if it works great but otherwise when some tries to
> explain how and why things work you lack of understanding makes you
> feel insecrue so you attack what you do not understand (since it is
> beyond your comprehension is must be wrong right?) rather that zipping
> your lip and maybe learning something.
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:41:03 -0400, Heatwave
> wrote:

>Simply delusional...


Yes indeed you are.....
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:54:36 -0400, "Tom" >
wrote:

>and you are probably the same asshole that tried to make me look bad a few
>years ago on a ford truck site claiming i was giving bad info to the guy
>that wanted to plow with a lifted truck. i told him he would be fine, and
>the snowblo dude said i was an idiot that did not know what i was talking
>about. within 2 days, i was proven rite, and snowblo was proven an asshole
>troll.


Rom the real troll here is you and you will go to any lenght to try to
discredit anyone that makes you feel insecure. I do not know what you
are taling about above but from what little dribble you put out about
it is some one was giving someone a hard time about plowing with a
lifted truck they were correct to do so and are not alone in there
belief so I commend them. See trolls like you thing you can lift
trucks and put big tires on them and that is has no effect at all on
the trucks durabilty or even pushing power. You trolls do not even
remotoely consider the strain on frame from lift and outset plows and
hitches because their is some magic troll "force" the negate all this
extra strain and rendures it moot. Man the troll "force" must be
awesome! (Trolls like you never took physics and if you did you slept
through classes)
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