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  #11  
Old April 30th 09, 12:09 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.saturn
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Default If Saturn goes, I will NEVER buy another GM car

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:26:57 -0500, satyr >
wrote:

>On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:00:17 -0400, Usenet User
> wrote:
>
>>Two years ago the Democrats took control of Congress. One year later the
>>economy started to go into a tailspin.

>
>And exactly what do you think the Democrats did to cause that? Did
>they deregulate the banking industry? No, that was the neocons. Did
>they raise taxes? No, the Bush tax cuts remain in force to this day.
>Did they deflate the housing bubble? No, bubbles deflate on their
>own. Did they waste a trillion dollars (and thousands of lives) in
>Iraq? No, that was the neocons again.


What did they do to *prevent* the crisis? What did they even
*propose*? They, afterall, controlled all legislation.

>
>>Obama's lack of leadership and
>>total and complete inexperience has kept consumer confidence at a low.

>
>Consumer confidence just jumped by the most in four years.
>
><http://seekingalpha.com/article/134000-still-low-consumer-confidence-improves-significantly>
><http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aGCiuVKXzvaQ&refer=home>
>
>>Couple that with a failure of the so-called stimulus program that is not
>>and will not create jobs,

>
>There are signs it is working, but it is really too early to tell.
>
>>is causing consumer confidence to remain low

>
>Typical neocon tactic: repeat your own misinformation until someone
>believes it.



Irony anyone?
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  #12  
Old April 30th 09, 12:28 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.saturn
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nobody wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:26:57 -0500, satyr >
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:00:17 -0400, Usenet User
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Two years ago the Democrats took control of Congress. One year later the
>>> economy started to go into a tailspin.

>> And exactly what do you think the Democrats did to cause that? Did
>> they deregulate the banking industry? No, that was the neocons. Did
>> they raise taxes? No, the Bush tax cuts remain in force to this day.
>> Did they deflate the housing bubble? No, bubbles deflate on their
>> own. Did they waste a trillion dollars (and thousands of lives) in
>> Iraq? No, that was the neocons again.

>
> What did they do to *prevent* the crisis? What did they even
> *propose*? They, afterall, controlled all legislation.


You need to learn how the government works in terms of legislation,
then get back to us.

Here's a hint--look at what it takes to over-ride a presidential veto,
especially when you have a Republican party that sticks together to
prevent crucial legislation from passing. And they're still doing it
using the filibuster. Fortunately, with the defection of Arlen Specter
from the Republicans, and the imminent seating of Franken, the
filibuster threat will be negated.
  #13  
Old April 30th 09, 05:29 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.saturn
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I agree with one thing. 60 votes will help bury America forever. Lost
Hope, Pocket Change.

Country was fine until 2 years ago when DemocRATS took control of
Congress. When they took the reigns of the country's finances, we went
into decline. When employment has not recovered in 3 years, Obama and
socialism will die.

SMS wrote:
> Usenet User wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> Now it's time to move forward. With 60 votes in the senate, Obama can
> begin the arduous task of restoring America to greatness. In just 100
> days he’s already taken steps to fix the military, fix the intelligence
> services, restore the moral authority of the U.S., undo the disastrous
> environmental policies of George W. Bush and the neo-cons, fix the
> economic mess that George W. Bush, Reagan, and the neo-cons got us into,
> and begin the long process of fixing our health care system.
>
> When Reagan and George W. Bush were president it was party time. Spend,
> spend, spend, and go on reckless military adventures without looking at
> the big picture. It was great fun, and everyone enjoyed the party so
> much that they forget that the bill eventually comes due. It’ll take
> more than just eight years for Obama to undo all the damage the
> Republicans have wrought on our great country.
>
> The only concern is that eight years may not be enough for Obama to
> complete the task. One thing we should immediately begin working on is
> the repeal of the 22nd amendment of the constitution so Obama can serve
> more than just eight years. He’s still a young man after all. Changing
> the term limit to four terms would be appropriate given the damage that
> the Republicans have done to the country and the time that will be
> needed to undo the damage.

  #14  
Old April 30th 09, 09:48 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.saturn
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On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 04:28:14 -0700, SMS >
wrote:

>nobody wrote:
>> On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:26:57 -0500, satyr >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:00:17 -0400, Usenet User
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Two years ago the Democrats took control of Congress. One year later the
>>>> economy started to go into a tailspin.
>>> And exactly what do you think the Democrats did to cause that? Did
>>> they deregulate the banking industry? No, that was the neocons. Did
>>> they raise taxes? No, the Bush tax cuts remain in force to this day.
>>> Did they deflate the housing bubble? No, bubbles deflate on their
>>> own. Did they waste a trillion dollars (and thousands of lives) in
>>> Iraq? No, that was the neocons again.

>>
>> What did they do to *prevent* the crisis? What did they even
>> *propose*? They, afterall, controlled all legislation.

>
>You need to learn how the government works in terms of legislation,
>then get back to us.
>


Tell me what the Dems did to prevent the crisis instead of dodging.

  #15  
Old May 1st 09, 07:57 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.saturn
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"nobody" > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 04:28:14 -0700, SMS >
> wrote:
>
>>nobody wrote:
>>> On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:26:57 -0500, satyr >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:00:17 -0400, Usenet User
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Two years ago the Democrats took control of Congress. One year later
>>>>> the
>>>>> economy started to go into a tailspin.
>>>> And exactly what do you think the Democrats did to cause that? Did
>>>> they deregulate the banking industry? No, that was the neocons. Did
>>>> they raise taxes? No, the Bush tax cuts remain in force to this day.
>>>> Did they deflate the housing bubble? No, bubbles deflate on their
>>>> own. Did they waste a trillion dollars (and thousands of lives) in
>>>> Iraq? No, that was the neocons again.
>>>
>>> What did they do to *prevent* the crisis? What did they even
>>> *propose*? They, afterall, controlled all legislation.

>>
>>You need to learn how the government works in terms of legislation,
>>then get back to us.
>>

>
> Tell me what the Dems did to prevent the crisis instead of dodging.


To the degree the crisis was precipitated by the crisis in
mortgage-backed securities in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac due to the
deflation of the housing bubble, the Dems reportedly resisted the Bush
administration's attempt to address the lack of guidelines for those
organizations. In addition, Dems (admittedly with either encouragement or,
at least, little resistance from Repubs, including neocons) tend to have
promoted policies and an atmosphere that encouraged lending at levels we now
recognize were beyond the means of some borrowers.
To those with short memories about the Bush tax cuts: Bush inheritied a
contracting economy (admittedly not nearly as bad as that his successor
faces) and his tax cuts were followed by what appears to have been a strong
recovery. Besides, tax cuts are a good thing in and of themselves, IMHO,
because they tend to result in smaller government (thus less spoils for
crooked politicians and "special interests").


  #16  
Old May 3rd 09, 03:56 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.saturn
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On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:46:01 -0700, SMS > wrote:


>The only concern is that eight years may not be enough for Obama to
>complete the task. One thing we should immediately begin working on is
>the repeal of the 22nd amendment of the constitution so Obama can serve
>more than just eight years. He’s still a young man after all. Changing
>the term limit to four terms would be appropriate given the damage that
>the Republicans have done to the country and the time that will be
>needed to undo the damage.


I suggest we go one step further, change the constitution and install Obama as
Emperor of USA. All our problems will be over. Are we that stupid?

  #17  
Old May 3rd 09, 05:04 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.saturn
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George wrote:

> I suggest we go one step further, change the constitution and install Obama as
> Emperor of USA.


Typical neo-con, doesn't believe in democracy.
  #18  
Old August 15th 09, 06:43 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.saturn
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Where the HELL did he ever say that he NEEDED to buy that or any amount?? So
many look to be negative and don't stick to the facts... Just proves each
and every time
where they're coming from and what they are all about...


> wrote in message
...
On Apr 27, 12:42 pm, Usenet User > wrote:
> I expect GM to survive in one form or another. But if GM drops or stops
> the Saturn brand, I am done with GM cars and so is the rest of the
> family. We have been loyal Saturn car owners and have found them
> superior and different than other GM cars. We have owned six Saturn
> vehicles over the years having bought two last year. If Saturn goes, so
> will our GM loyalty. In other words GM, you orphan me, then I will
> orphan you. I knew that idiot Obama would screw this up. Only his
> inexperience could take a bad situation and make it worse.


if they were so good, then explain why you needed to buy so many
saturns ?


  #19  
Old August 15th 09, 06:43 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.saturn
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USENET USER>>>>

I never would have watsed the time on him with any answer. He was and is not
deserving of one with the accusing bull**** attitude...
As for all of the others ,... take your ****ing politics out of this group
to where it belongs and leave this one open for Saturn items and issues as
it is intended...



"Usenet User" > wrote in message
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>I bought a Saturn SL in 1994. Drove it for five years before trading it in
>for another one. Kept it for four years, but traded it in for a Jeep
>Wrangler in 2005.
>
> Bought an SL1 for my daughter in 2000 as I recall. She totaled the
> vehicle, but it saved her life.
>
> So, bought second Saturn SL1 to replace it. Almost identical except for
> the year.
>
> She drove that for 5 years and then we traded it in for a VUE (2008). In
> the process of evaluating the VUE, she and I test drove an Aura. I liked
> it so much, we bought it as a third car.
>
> Does that answer your question? We like Saturns. But now the two latest
> cars will be orphaned soon. Stupid move by GM. Wasn't the Saturn brand
> supposed to be the import car killer? Killing off all these brands instead
> of merging the brands is going to kill off whatever loyalty Americans
> still had remaining for American cars.
>
> wrote:
>> On Apr 27, 12:42 pm, Usenet User > wrote:
>>> I expect GM to survive in one form or another. But if GM drops or stops
>>> the Saturn brand, I am done with GM cars and so is the rest of the
>>> family. We have been loyal Saturn car owners and have found them
>>> superior and different than other GM cars. We have owned six Saturn
>>> vehicles over the years having bought two last year. If Saturn goes, so
>>> will our GM loyalty. In other words GM, you orphan me, then I will
>>> orphan you. I knew that idiot Obama would screw this up. Only his
>>> inexperience could take a bad situation and make it worse.

>>
>> if they were so good, then explain why you needed to buy so many
>> saturns ?



 




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