And only $5600 out the door....

On 24 Oct 2005 21:14:46 -0700, wrote:

>
>Rich wrote:
>> On 24 Oct 2005 10:07:28 -0700, wrote:
>>
>> >That must be the full-fledge NASCAR version, because no stock Charger
>> >ever came close to any of those numbers -- except maybe the 4-spd
>> >manual part. HP more like 380 SAE net, torque about 425 lb-ft, 0-60
>> >about 6.0, top speed 150 (a verrrry unpleasant 150), weight 3,900.
>> >
>> >180 Out
>>
>> Apparently, all you needed was the "race" Hemi which had been
>> available as an option for several years. Cross-ram, 12.5:1
>> compression. Since the normal Hemi was way underrated at 425hp,
>> it's reasonable to assume the race was producing near 600.
>> Don't forget; The specially-prepped but dealer-avaiable Dart in 1960
>> could turn high 10s in the quarter with the race Hemi.
>> Not many cars now under $300k that can do that.
>
>I've never heard of the "race hemi" option for a '69 Charger Daytona.
>Regarding the 426/425 hp "street hemi," according to something I posted
>to alt.hi-po-big-block-ford-mercury a few years back, that engine had
>about 411 flywheel horsepower. Here's my edited version of that post:
>
>"The Hemi had a 10.25:1 CR, 2.25/1/94 cross-flow heads, dual quads,
>famously low-restriction mufflers, and Mopar-style "factory header"
>exhaust manifolds. The solid lifter cam had 276 deg advertised
>duration, 60 deg overlap, and .467/.473 lift. This combination was
>advertised at 425 hp @ 5000, 490 ft-lbs 4000. (See
>http://www.users.qwest.net/~pbarring/specs.htm .)
>
>"A '69 Hemi RR weighs 3880 lbs. (See Motor Trend's '69 Car of the Year
>story, as quoted at http://www.hotrodder.com/nick/rrhistory.htm .) Back
>in the day, Car Life magazine got a 4.10:1 Super Track Pack Hemi RR to
>trap at 104. (See http://www.hotrodder.com/nick/rrhistory.htm .)
>Assuming a 17% drivetrain loss, a 3880 lb car requires 341 rwhp, 411
>fwhp, to trap at 104 mph (using the formulas rwhp = weight * (mph /
>234)^3 and fwhp = rwhp/.83)."
>
>180 Out

Yes, that was the standard hemi engine, the "street hemi."
In-line manifold, not cross ram, lower compression, some lesser
quality internals.
Sorry, make that 1968 Dart, not 1960. But the race hemi had been
available (as far as I know) since 1964.
-Rich