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Old December 14th 05, 06:17 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
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Actually it would just be an on-board computer. No need to take up a seat.

I am guessing that the name "Asimo" is a tribute to Isaac Asimov.

http://www.honda-robots.com/english/...frameset2.html

They have already doubled his running speed, both feet are now off the
ground at the same time. How much longer before one is running far
faster than Carl Lewis?

I want an Asimo. He isn't advanced enough to drive, but what an
eye-catching passenger, plus he will wave at people for you! All for a
measely $170,000.

Pat
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Old December 14th 05, 07:44 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
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In article >,
pws > wrote:

> I want an Asimo. He isn't advanced enough to drive, but what an
> eye-catching passenger, plus he will wave at people for you!


Fred Flintstone would have killed for one of those.

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Old December 15th 05, 02:49 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
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pws > wrote:

> how long before Asimo type robots are the driver?


It seems to me that at 1.20 m, the thing might have trouble seeing
over the dash.

>Actually it would just be an on-board computer. No need to take up a seat.


I guess he could stand on the seat and throw a brick on the gas.

>I am guessing that the name "Asimo" is a tribute to Isaac Asimov.
>
>http://www.honda-robots.com/english/...frameset2.html
>
>They have already doubled his running speed, both feet are now off the
>ground at the same time. How much longer before one is running far
>faster than Carl Lewis?
>
>I want an Asimo. He isn't advanced enough to drive, but what an
>eye-catching passenger, plus he will wave at people for you! All for a
>measely $170,000.


They may not be able to see him very well. Padding the seat with another
170,000 one-dollar bills should help.

Leon
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Old December 15th 05, 03:10 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
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On 2005-12-14, pws > wrote:

> I am guessing that the name "Asimo" is a tribute to Isaac Asimov.
>
> http://www.honda-robots.com/english/...frameset2.html


Advanced Step in Innnovative MObility.

That's sure awkward. It sounds to me like a phrase that was
kludged together ex post facto to match a name that had been
chosen for some other reason. It's probably really named after
somebody's dog or something like that.

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Old December 15th 05, 03:28 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
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Leon van Dommelen wrote:

>> how long before Asimo type robots are the driver?

>
>
> It seems to me that at 1.20 m, the thing might have trouble seeing
> over the dash.


>
>
> They may not be able to see him very well. Padding the seat with another
> 170,000 one-dollar bills should help.
>
> Leon


Ok, maybe we'd have better luck with his older brother, the P3. :-)

http://www.honda-robots.com/english/...frameset2.html


What is 1 meter 60 tall? Is that 1.6 meters?

Pat
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Old December 15th 05, 03:46 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
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Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2005-12-14, pws > wrote:
>
>
>>I am guessing that the name "Asimo" is a tribute to Isaac Asimov.
>>
>>http://www.honda-robots.com/english/...frameset2.html

>
>
> Advanced Step in Innnovative MObility.
>
> That's sure awkward. It sounds to me like a phrase that was
> kludged together ex post facto to match a name that had been
> chosen for some other reason. It's probably really named after
> somebody's dog or something like that.
>



That is awkward.

I am not a "Terminator" conspiracy theorist, and these robots still seem
somewhat slow and clunky, but compare them to what we had 10 years ago.

With the rapid simultaneous advances in robotics and artificial
intelligence, I hope that we are careful. I really don't want a machine
telling me what to do one day.

Well, actually I have had that before, but it was an organic machine,
and it was very faulty, inefficient and in bad need of an overhaul.
I think they called it a "manager".

Pat

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Old December 15th 05, 04:26 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
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In article >,
pws > wrote:

> Grant Edwards wrote:
> > On 2005-12-14, pws > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I am guessing that the name "Asimo" is a tribute to Isaac Asimov.
> >>
> >>http://www.honda-robots.com/english/...frameset2.html

> >
> >
> > Advanced Step in Innnovative MObility.
> >
> > That's sure awkward. It sounds to me like a phrase that was
> > kludged together ex post facto to match a name that had been
> > chosen for some other reason. It's probably really named after
> > somebody's dog or something like that.
> >

>
>
> That is awkward.


No kidding... Yeesh, given thirty seconds, I came up with "Automated
Semi-Intelligent Mobile Operative" as a *MUCH* (IMNSHO) better sounding,
more accurate, and less "clunky" expansion. for it. <sigh> Dang japs
just ain't got any imagination, I tell ya! (Says the guy driving a 20+
year old japanese car that has *WAY* outlasted many american models of
the same class and year <heheheheh>)

> I am not a "Terminator" conspiracy theorist, and these robots still seem
> somewhat slow and clunky, but compare them to what we had 10 years ago.


Neither am I, but I can't argue with your thoughts on the topic.

> With the rapid simultaneous advances in robotics and artificial
> intelligence, I hope that we are careful. I really don't want a machine
> telling me what to do one day.


That's where we're getting ahead of ourselves... Asimov's "Three Laws"
are likely going to be even more critical to any widespread robotics
endeavors than any of us dream, I'm thinking.

> Well, actually I have had that before, but it was an organic machine,
> and it was very faulty, inefficient and in bad need of an overhaul.
> I think they called it a "manager".


Jeez, man, that's an obsolete model. Recalled to the factory so many
times I can't even count for a multitude of defects, some
life-threatening. Suggest you send it to the crusher at your earliest
opportunity.

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Old December 15th 05, 04:57 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
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In article >,
Grant Edwards > wrote:

> > I am guessing that the name "Asimo" is a tribute to Isaac Asimov.

>
> Advanced Step in Innnovative MObility.
>
> That's sure awkward. It sounds to me like a phrase that was
> kludged together ex post facto to match a name that had been
> chosen for some other reason. It's probably really named after
> somebody's dog or something like that.


Ex post facto for sure, but I'd wager my Miata that the name is based on
"Asimov." Isaac Asimov was the first author to write about robots
rationally, without sensationalism. The first to put serious thought
into their impact on society.

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Old December 15th 05, 05:39 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
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In article >,
Lanny Chambers > wrote:

> In article >,
> Grant Edwards > wrote:
>
> > > I am guessing that the name "Asimo" is a tribute to Isaac Asimov.

> >
> > Advanced Step in Innnovative MObility.
> >
> > That's sure awkward. It sounds to me like a phrase that was
> > kludged together ex post facto to match a name that had been
> > chosen for some other reason. It's probably really named after
> > somebody's dog or something like that.

>
> Ex post facto for sure, but I'd wager my Miata that the name is based on
> "Asimov." Isaac Asimov was the first author to write about robots
> rationally, without sensationalism. The first to put serious thought
> into their impact on society.


Agreed. Considering his writings, both fiction and non-fiction, and his
contributions to science, I, for one, would consider it to be nothing
other than a perfectly fitting tribute if a robot model were named for
the man who effectively defined what a robot should eventually be.

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Old December 15th 05, 06:02 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
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Don Bruder wrote:

> Neither am I, but I can't argue with your thoughts on the topic.


I actually need to rephrase my earlier statement of not wanting a
machine to tell me what to do.

A more likely scenario is a machine that has absolutely no use for me.

If we are able to make a machine that is more intelligent than
ourselves, it would quickly become superior to us in every physical way
possible as well unless we had very tight control.
At that point, we are obsolete. The big question is what would the
machines do with us?
They would probably have emotions, would they tolerate us, destroy us,
would they even want to stay here when they could easily leave?

Finally, would they drive miatas?!?!?!?!?

It would be interesting anyway......:-)

> Jeez, man, that's an obsolete model. Recalled to the factory so many
> times I can't even count for a multitude of defects, some
> life-threatening. Suggest you send it to the crusher at your earliest
> opportunity.


Luckily I got away from that one. It has to be gone by now, the
"manager" machine was going downhill fast, constantly breaking down, and
as you said, it was even life-threatening at times.
The machine that they called the "owner" was also in need of an upgrade,
but it booted up each day and worked nearly half the time. :-)

Pat


 




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