Accord coupe - washer fluid container

For the second time I needed to refil washer fluid in
my 2004 accord coupe. I got the 1 gallon jug from the
store when the washer nozzles stopped delivering fluid.
Poured the bottle but before the bottle was empty
the container in the car was full and overflowing.
2-3 inches of the fluid left unused in the bottle.

Is this what you get? Or my pump is not sucking all
the fluid from the container?

Why would you design a car with a washer fluid
container just smaller than the widely available
container the fluid is sold in the stores?

Would you consider it as a bad design?

"Pszemol" > wrote in message
...
> For the second time I needed to refil washer fluid in
> my 2004 accord coupe. I got the 1 gallon jug from the
> store when the washer nozzles stopped delivering fluid.
> Poured the bottle but before the bottle was empty
> the container in the car was full and overflowing.
> 2-3 inches of the fluid left unused in the bottle.
>
> Is this what you get? Or my pump is not sucking all
> the fluid from the container?
>
> Why would you design a car with a washer fluid
> container just smaller than the widely available
> container the fluid is sold in the stores?
>
> Would you consider it as a bad design?

If your preferred method is to suck the reservoir absolutely dry before
refilling it, thus risking being without washer fluid at some point when you
really need it, then yes, I suppose you might consider it a bad design.

If, on the other hand, you do what a lot of people do and add fluid to the
reservoir periodically before it's completely dry, and then put the bottle
back in the garage for next time, then it really doesn't much matter how big
either the reservoir or the bottle is, does it?

"Paul" > wrote in message . ..
> If your preferred method is to suck the reservoir absolutely dry before
> refilling it, thus risking being without washer fluid at some point when you
> really need it, then yes, I suppose you might consider it a bad design.
>
> If, on the other hand, you do what a lot of people do and add fluid to the
> reservoir periodically before it's completely dry, and then put the bottle
> back in the garage for next time, then it really doesn't much matter how big
> either the reservoir or the bottle is, does it?

I can see you are an old fashioned guy who likes to spend time
with his car and keep the garage full of funny bottles... :-)

Good design in my opinion would be low fluid warning light
on the dashboard and reservoir big enough to hold FULL bottle
when the warning ligth comes on to minimalise required mainenance.

The only warning I get from my accord is that the stream of
water is weaker, but then I have 2-3 more attempts and it is dry.
Even then it does not hold the full bottle, which is sad... :-)

Don't get me wrong, but I am comparing this accord to my old
1995 camry, which it happens had the reservoid big enought
to hold the full gallon of fluid in one big gulp.

On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:02:02 -0600, Pszemol > wrote:
>"Paul" > wrote in message . ..
>> If your preferred method is to suck the reservoir absolutely dry before
>> refilling it, thus risking being without washer fluid at some point when you
>> really need it, then yes, I suppose you might consider it a bad design.
>>
>> If, on the other hand, you do what a lot of people do and add fluid to the
>> reservoir periodically before it's completely dry, and then put the bottle
>> back in the garage for next time, then it really doesn't much matter how big
>> either the reservoir or the bottle is, does it?

>I can see you are an old fashioned guy who likes to spend time
>with his car and keep the garage full of funny bottles... :-)

>Good design in my opinion would be low fluid warning light
>on the dashboard and reservoir big enough to hold FULL bottle
>when the warning ligth comes on to minimalise required mainenance.

some cars do. If they all did, then you'd be whining that it
doesn't hold a 5 gallon drum puchased at costco.

"AZ Nomad" > wrote in message ...
> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:02:02 -0600, Pszemol > wrote:
>>"Paul" > wrote in message . ..
>>> If your preferred method is to suck the reservoir absolutely dry before
>>> refilling it, thus risking being without washer fluid at some point when you
>>> really need it, then yes, I suppose you might consider it a bad design.
>>>
>>> If, on the other hand, you do what a lot of people do and add fluid to the
>>> reservoir periodically before it's completely dry, and then put the bottle
>>> back in the garage for next time, then it really doesn't much matter how big
>>> either the reservoir or the bottle is, does it?
>
>>I can see you are an old fashioned guy who likes to spend time
>>with his car and keep the garage full of funny bottles... :-)
>
>>Good design in my opinion would be low fluid warning light
>>on the dashboard and reservoir big enough to hold FULL bottle
>>when the warning ligth comes on to minimalise required mainenance.
>
> some cars do. If they all did, then you'd be whining that it
> doesn't hold a 5 gallon drum puchased at costco.

Bad argument, since 1 gallon jug is *the smallest* amount
of washer fluid you can buy in a retail stores...

"Pszemol" > wrote in message
...
> I can see you are an old fashioned guy who likes to spend time
> with his car and keep the garage full of funny bottles... :-)
> Good design in my opinion would be low fluid warning light
> on the dashboard and reservoir big enough to hold FULL bottle
> when the warning ligth comes on to minimalise required mainenance.
> The only warning I get from my accord is that the stream of
> water is weaker, but then I have 2-3 more attempts and it is dry.
> Even then it does not hold the full bottle, which is sad... :-)

My '01 coupe has a warning light, and when it comes on I can put an entire
jug of washer fluid in and still have room left for more... Maybe it's
because I'm in Canada (the frozen white north and all), or maybe the design
of the '04 required a smaller reservoir.

"JM" > wrote in message ...
> "Pszemol" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I can see you are an old fashioned guy who likes to spend time
>> with his car and keep the garage full of funny bottles... :-)
>> Good design in my opinion would be low fluid warning light
>> on the dashboard and reservoir big enough to hold FULL bottle
>> when the warning ligth comes on to minimalise required mainenance.
>> The only warning I get from my accord is that the stream of
>> water is weaker, but then I have 2-3 more attempts and it is dry.
>> Even then it does not hold the full bottle, which is sad... :-)
>
> My '01 coupe has a warning light, and when it comes on I can put an entire
> jug of washer fluid in and still have room left for more... Maybe it's
> because I'm in Canada (the frozen white north and all), or maybe the design
> of the '04 required a smaller reservoir.

In my user manual there is a note about warning light for
Canadian models, even for 2004. I think I will look around
for a Canadian version of the washer reservoid then :-))

Pszemol wrote:
> "JM" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Pszemol" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I can see you are an old fashioned guy who likes to spend time
>>> with his car and keep the garage full of funny bottles... :-)
>>> Good design in my opinion would be low fluid warning light
>>> on the dashboard and reservoir big enough to hold FULL bottle
>>> when the warning ligth comes on to minimalise required mainenance.
>>> The only warning I get from my accord is that the stream of
>>> water is weaker, but then I have 2-3 more attempts and it is dry.
>>> Even then it does not hold the full bottle, which is sad... :-)
>>
>> My '01 coupe has a warning light, and when it comes on I can put an
>> entire jug of washer fluid in and still have room left for more...
>> Maybe it's because I'm in Canada (the frozen white north and all), or
>> maybe the design of the '04 required a smaller reservoir.
>
> In my user manual there is a note about warning light for
> Canadian models, even for 2004. I think I will look around
> for a Canadian version of the washer reservoid then :-))

Suit yourself, but you're greatly overreacting here IMHO.

Maybe it's
> because I'm in Canada (the frozen white north and all), or maybe the design
> of the '04 required a smaller reservoir.
>
>

Yeah, and you guys (and girls) get the heated mirrors. We don't. Even
my old '85 Scirocco had heated mirrors, but not this new Civic. Grr....

"Robert Barr" > wrote in message . net...
> Maybe it's
>> because I'm in Canada (the frozen white north and all), or maybe the design
>> of the '04 required a smaller reservoir.
>
> Yeah, and you guys (and girls) get the heated mirrors. We don't. Even
> my old '85 Scirocco had heated mirrors, but not this new Civic. Grr....

I wonder how much savings honda got not doing these things.
I got EX-L trim, you would expect it to be fully loaded - such a wrong idea.