Should bars have parking lots??

Not a bad idea though i still think the best answer is to make DUI a felony
with automatic multi-year license suspension. Let's stop coddling these
killers and maimers.

Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:

> Why not park a police cruiser there at closing time and stop everyone
> jaywalking. This would be excellent probable cause to catch a whiff of
> booze on their breath and drag them off if they subsequently slide into
> the driver's seat.

Said to be a true story, but I dunnooo...

Cop parked near a bar, near closing time.

Folks come out and make their way to their cars and leave, but one guy
seems to have a lot of trouble. He staggers out of the bar, eventually
gets to his car (after bumping into walls, street-light poles, falling
off the curb several times, etc).

Eventually the guy finds his keys which he had dropped while falling off
the curb, gets in his car and sits there for a while.

Eventually he is the last one left and he gets his car and heads
out--only to be stopped as soon as he hits the street.

And it starts, but when he blows a zero the cop wants to know what is
going on--was he supposed to be the designated driver or something?

Guy says "No sir, I'm the designated decoy".

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Good question. What makes me really wonder:

Near where I live, there's a popular bar. Just across the street,
there's a city parking lot. Its about 100 feet down the road from a
signaled intersection, with pedestrian crossing lights and everything.
But the bar patrons (particularly the drunk ones) insist on stumbling
out, seeing their car directly across the street and making a bee-line
for it. So, what does the city do? Add another crosswalk right at the
bar's front door.

Why not park a police cruiser there at closing time and stop everyone
jaywalking. This would be excellent probable cause to catch a whiff of
booze on their breath and drag them off if they subsequently slide into
the driver's seat.

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"Paul Hovnanian P.E." > wrote in news:4AC6BC60.BBF2B5D3
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> Good question. What makes me really wonder:
>
> Near where I live, there's a popular bar. Just across the street,
> there's a city parking lot. Its about 100 feet down the road from a
> signaled intersection, with pedestrian crossing lights and everything.
> But the bar patrons

Stop with that "patron" crap. They're drug addicts and criminals and a
public menace.

"Paul Hovnanian P.E." > wrote in message
...
> Good question. What makes me really wonder:
>
> Near where I live, there's a popular bar. Just across the street,
> there's a city parking lot. Its about 100 feet down the road from a
> signaled intersection, with pedestrian crossing lights and everything.
> But the bar patrons (particularly the drunk ones) insist on stumbling
> out, seeing their car directly across the street and making a bee-line
> for it. So, what does the city do? Add another crosswalk right at the
> bar's front door.
>
> Why not park a police cruiser there at closing time and stop everyone
> jaywalking. This would be excellent probable cause to catch a whiff of
> booze on their breath and drag them off if they subsequently slide into
> the driver's seat.
>
> --
> Paul Hovnanian
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> What color is a chameleon looking in a mirror?


It's a good idea except it would be called harassment, it's been tried.
oddly enough the bar owner could hire the cops for traffic control.

On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:52:16 -0800, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
> wrote:

>Good question. What makes me really wonder:
>
>Near where I live, there's a popular bar. Just across the street,
>there's a city parking lot. Its about 100 feet down the road from a
>signaled intersection, with pedestrian crossing lights and everything.
>But the bar patrons (particularly the drunk ones) insist on stumbling
>out, seeing their car directly across the street and making a bee-line
>for it. So, what does the city do? Add another crosswalk right at the
>bar's front door.
>
>Why not park a police cruiser there at closing time and stop everyone
>jaywalking. This would be excellent probable cause to catch a whiff of
>booze on their breath and drag them off if they subsequently slide into
>the driver's seat.

Or drag them off before they get into the driver's seat (on a public
intoxication charge - even if they are just kept locked up long enough
to sober up). That way they don't get into the car and drive drunk to
begin with.

Of course, that would not satisfy the revenue needs of the city and
the insurance industry like a DUI charge would and would not satisfy
the prison fetishes of a puritianical knot-head (and admitted highway
killer) like S&DDAM...

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SFB spewed:

>Stop with that "patron" crap. They're drug addicts and criminals and a
>public menace.

GO back to church, you pruitianical fascist.

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On Oct 2, 8:12*am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
> wrote:
> Not a bad idea though i still think the best answer is to make DUI a felony *
> with automatic multi-year license suspension. *Let's stop coddling these
> killers and maimers.

Years ago in Someerville Mass (close suburb of Boston) if they caught
a drunk driver they would write him/her up for public intoxication, he/
she would plead guilty and be on the way, much poorer..
If the driver started mouthing off, they would write him/her up for
DWI.
Drunks in the know were quite co-operative.

"SeaWoe" > wrote in message
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On Oct 2, 8:12 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
> wrote:
> Not a bad idea though i still think the best answer is to make DUI a
> felony
> with automatic multi-year license suspension. Let's stop coddling these
> killers and maimers.

Years ago in Someerville Mass (close suburb of Boston) if they caught
a drunk driver they would write him/her up for public intoxication, he/
she would plead guilty and be on the way, much poorer..
If the driver started mouthing off, they would write him/her up for
DWI.
Drunks in the know were quite co-operative.


Here the first offense to get your driving costs you 3grand per year and
six months of daylight only driving. The second time you pay 5grand a year
for your license and blow on the tube you pay another 5grand to install.
The third time after five years you pay 10 grand per year to blow plus the
five grand for the device. The fourth time your bubba Leroy's Love monkey
and can be had for life. The insurance companies Rape you from day one, a
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