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Ford recalls 3.8 million trucks and SUV's
Well, it was going to happen sooner or later. But I wonder why the
Explorer is not listed. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9241475/ |
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"Mikepier" > wrote in message ups.com... > Well, it was going to happen sooner or later. But I wonder why the > Explorer is not listed. The power feed in an Explorer is switched. Ed |
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So it will only start on fire if you're in it ;-) [couldn't resist]
Is this true for all years of explorers that the power feed is switched? I had heard otherwise... -- Allan Williams "C. E. White" > wrote in message ink.net... > > "Mikepier" > wrote in message > ups.com... >> Well, it was going to happen sooner or later. But I wonder why the >> Explorer is not listed. > > The power feed in an Explorer is switched. > > Ed > |
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The EVTM schematic for my '98 Explorer shows the +12V feed to the brake
pressure switch as 'HOT AT ALL TIMES' (through a 20Amp fuse). Same for my '97 Grand Marquis. I believe that Ford's recall just adds an in-line fuse. To prevent a defective switch from overheating, it should be rated very low, possibly 0.25A or less. This would lead to the assumption that the brake pressure switch is not for servo power, but just a signal line. Can anyone confirm? Heck, I may just stick my multimeter in there and take it for a spin, to watch the current draw... "C. E. White" > wrote in message ink.net... > > The power feed in an Explorer is switched. > > Ed > > |
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C. E. White wrote: > "Mikepier" > wrote in message > ups.com... > > Well, it was going to happen sooner or later. But I wonder why the > > Explorer is not listed. > > The power feed in an Explorer is switched. > > Ed On my 99 XLT, the switch has power all the time. |
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Happy,
Thats what I did on my 02. Whoa. Not exactly. I didn't measure the current. I only verified the switch harness connector was hot only with the key on. I looked back multiple years on my service DVD. On Explorers, it appears they changed from "hot at all times" to "hot in start or run" for the 2002's. Thats the same year they went to having the speed control smarts buried in the PCM instead of a separate servo. |
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Unplugged the connector, hooked an ampmeter instead of the brake pressure
switch, and took if for a ride. Results: with speed control engaged, the current was between 0.45A and 0.60A. It started at the high value and went down after a while, apparently as things were warming up. I expected the current to increase momentarily when pushing 'accelerate', because of the increased load on the motor as it pulls the cable, but could not see any change. The reading goes practically to zero (less than 1mA) with CC disengaged. So looks like the fuse that I am thinking of splicing into the harness should be rated no less than 1A. Is this low enough to protect a defective switch from catching fire? Hopefully. But in any case, it's much better than the 20A that the fuse in the 'always hot' feed will allow. Disclaimer: I am providing this information for entertainment value only. This was just an experiment that I performed on my own vehicle and I don't know if the results apply to anything else. If you are not experienced with automotive electrical measurements, please don't repeat my experiment - this is an 'always hot' circuit, and you may damage something or start a fire, even with the ignition switch off. I don't have any knowledge about the cruise control servo or the brake pressure switch and their failure modes. I am not advising anyone to tamper with the harness or install anything on their own... If you do that, I take no responsibility whatsoever for the consequences. "Happy Traveler" > wrote in message ... > The EVTM schematic for my '98 Explorer shows the +12V feed to the brake > pressure switch as 'HOT AT ALL TIMES' (through a 20Amp fuse). Same for my > '97 Grand Marquis. > > I believe that Ford's recall just adds an in-line fuse. To prevent a > defective switch from overheating, it should be rated very low, possibly > 0.25A or less. This would lead to the assumption that the brake pressure > switch is not for servo power, but just a signal line. Can anyone confirm? > Heck, I may just stick my multimeter in there and take it for a spin, to > watch the current draw... > > > "C. E. White" > wrote in message > ink.net... > > > > The power feed in an Explorer is switched. > > > > Ed > > > > > > |
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Interesting results. I wonder what else is on that 20A fuse? Is it
possible to just change the fuse to a lower value? If all you get is .6 A, it would seem a 20A fuse would allow an overcurrent more likely to occur than lets say a 5 amp fuse. |
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