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Old January 22nd 07, 07:38 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
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Default Car won't shift out of Park without reset key

Car: 1991 Honda Accord Wagon

Problem: Once I put my car in Park and come back later to start it it won't
****. I have to use the key to do the reset for the **** and only then it
will shift. The problem started as the weather started getting pretty cold
about ten days back. Does anyone know what the problem is and how to resolve
it?

P.S The car doesn't have problems shifting to drive etc. and I don't think
it suffer from the famous broken shift cable syndrome. It just gets locked
into Park. Thanks to all in advance.

Dave


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Old January 22nd 07, 10:01 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
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Default Car won't shift out of Park without reset key

On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:38:14 -0500, Honda > wrote:


>Car: 1991 Honda Accord Wagon


>Problem: Once I put my car in Park and come back later to start it it won't
>****. I have to use the key to do the reset for the **** and only then it
>will shift. The problem started as the weather started getting pretty cold
>about ten days back. Does anyone know what the problem is and how to resolve
>it?


>P.S The car doesn't have problems shifting to drive etc. and I don't think
>it suffer from the famous broken shift cable syndrome. It just gets locked
>into Park. Thanks to all in advance.


If it's got a "reset" slot, then it also has an interlock system designed
primarily for prevent morons from confusing the pedals and claiming
unintended acceleration when they drive into a tree while pushing the gas
pedal as hard as they can.

There's three parts: sensors, logic, and actuators. The first most
important sensor is the brake pedal. I dunno about what other sensors there
may be. Unless the system thinks you have your foot on the brakes, it won't
let you put the car in gear! The logic may be burried inside the engine
control computer, transmission control computer, or perhaps a security
system, or interior lighting logic black box. Last is the actuator right in
the vicinity of the "reset slot" that lets you put the car into gear. Check
that it's getting voltage and that it can move freely.

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Old January 23rd 07, 01:11 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
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Default Car won't shift out of Park without reset key

Is the P light on? If not power is not getting to the release solenoid. It
comes from the range switch in the transmission. It could also be the switch
on the brake pedal. This is besides any mechanical problem in the column...


"AZ Nomad" > wrote in message
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> On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:38:14 -0500, Honda > wrote:
>
>
>>Car: 1991 Honda Accord Wagon

>
>>Problem: Once I put my car in Park and come back later to start it it
>>won't
>>****. I have to use the key to do the reset for the **** and only then it
>>will shift. The problem started as the weather started getting pretty cold
>>about ten days back. Does anyone know what the problem is and how to
>>resolve
>>it?

>
>>P.S The car doesn't have problems shifting to drive etc. and I don't think
>>it suffer from the famous broken shift cable syndrome. It just gets locked
>>into Park. Thanks to all in advance.

>
> If it's got a "reset" slot, then it also has an interlock system designed
> primarily for prevent morons from confusing the pedals and claiming
> unintended acceleration when they drive into a tree while pushing the gas
> pedal as hard as they can.
>
> There's three parts: sensors, logic, and actuators. The first most
> important sensor is the brake pedal. I dunno about what other sensors
> there
> may be. Unless the system thinks you have your foot on the brakes, it
> won't
> let you put the car in gear! The logic may be burried inside the engine
> control computer, transmission control computer, or perhaps a security
> system, or interior lighting logic black box. Last is the actuator right
> in
> the vicinity of the "reset slot" that lets you put the car into gear.
> Check
> that it's getting voltage and that it can move freely.
>



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Old January 23rd 07, 01:16 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
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Default Car won't shift out of Park without reset key

On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:38:14 -0500, "Honda" > wrote:

>Car: 1991 Honda Accord Wagon
>
>Problem: Once I put my car in Park and come back later to start it it won't
>****. I have to use the key to do the reset for the **** and only then it
>will shift. The problem started as the weather started getting pretty cold
>about ten days back. Does anyone know what the problem is and how to resolve
>it?
>
>P.S The car doesn't have problems shifting to drive etc. and I don't think
>it suffer from the famous broken shift cable syndrome. It just gets locked
>into Park. Thanks to all in advance.
>
>Dave
>


I end up reposting this every winter. Here is what you need to know.
Keep in mind that this was originally written some years ago so the
prices may be out of date and the old Internet source is out of
business.


(begin repost)

My friend purchased a (transmission) console switch from
[hparts.com but they are out of business and the current web site is a
new operation and new owner]. The part is Honda# 35700-SM4-A91 and
the price was $31.63 plus $5.62 S&H. She had a very experienced
amateur install it. He looked at the manual briefly then went out and
installed it in under 20 minutes. It should be pretty straight forward
for anyone with just a little experience, only slightly tricky part is
to adjust it (if necessary) so that the indicator lights match the
shift lever position.

Results: In three days of use at temperatures down to -3 F she has
not had any trouble. Previously the car would always experience the
syndrome until it had been warmed up for at least 20 minutes on even a
moderately cold day.

To recap the symptoms:

- Vehicle is 1990+ Accord with AT (others may be affected also)
- Problem is strongly linked to cold temperatures.
- Key cannot be removed after shifting into P
- Dash indicator light does not indicate "P" even though transmission
lever is positively in P
- Car cannot be shifted out of P after this has happened
- Problem solves itself when the "P" indicator lights which occurs
after a period of time related to the interior temperature of the car.
 




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