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Ruud Dingemans > wrote in news:curahb$bq1$1
@news4.zwoll1.ov.home.nl: > Commodore employee (don't remember her name though) in Dave H's Deathbed > Vigil video. > Huh? DId I die and not get told about it? Figures...I'm always the last to know.... speaking of which,...back to the topic....sortof.... THe Group C mod for F1c has a new update. Service Pak3 with a whole bunch of mid 80's Porches. THe 956 and 962. I once saw a gentlemen racer drive one of those off the track and into a stand of trees. The car was totalled but he walked out unhurt. He praised the construction of the car and stated something like he'd never race again except in that model. So now they have the early 90 Group C, the AMerican Imsa cars and now the studs of Endurance racing from the 80's Quite a huge list of cars and cockpits that are quite good. The first download links are he http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=194156 dh |
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> As our hobby is essentially computer related, those who persevere with it
> will pick up the nescessary skills as they go along(*), but I also think > it's important to not scare away that first time user. I'd rather resort > to my bark/bite if he/she turns out to be a PITA, than have them quit from > the off. It's only people that have screwed systems to begin with that even -know- that Starforce is being installed. If you've got a half decent system that works properly, you won't even know about Starforce. If you're a newbie that doesn't have a decent system and runs into problems, well, that's what technical support is for. The system resources it uses are absolutely negligible and everything on my system (and everyone else I know who owns Starforce games) still works perfectly including Nero. It does have an issue with virtual drives such as the one Nero uses but it gives the user plenty of warning and there are workarounds posted all over the place. Installing MS Office or Adobe Acrobat has more of an impact on your system's speed. I can't believe the intelligent people of this group have fallen for all of the anti-Starforce propaganda spread around the net by all of the pirate-kiddies who still haven't found a decent way to beat Starforce. I will agree with one thing though, there's some very technically savvy people around here who are complete idiots when it comes to PCs. :-\ |
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> Whatever they do, at least don't use something which will sabotage
> other present programs, like Nero. I also remember I tried to update > my legal copy of Operation Flashpoint, which didn't work. The reason > was that the update installer found a CD writer on my PC, and just > stopped updating OF without any message.... Well, I just recorded a DVD in Nero 6.6.0.3 after playing GTR - I guess my copy of Nero must be 'special' |
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"Steve Simpson" > wrote in
: > Well, I just recorded a DVD in Nero 6.6.0.3 after playing GTR - I > guess my copy of Nero must be 'special' > If you could 'BACKUP' your GTR disc...THEN I'd think it's special. dave henrie |
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2005-02-15, Steve Simpson wrote:
> > The system resources it uses are absolutely negligible and everything on my > system (and everyone else I know who owns Starforce games) still works > perfectly including Nero. It does have an issue with virtual drives such as > the one Nero uses but it gives the user plenty of warning and there are So not everything works perfectly... > I can't believe the intelligent people of this group have fallen for all of > the anti-Starforce propaganda spread around the net by all of the > pirate-kiddies who still haven't found a decent way to beat Starforce. The point is that some people just think that this kind of copy-protection is going too far. I'm one of them and I won't be buying GTR because of it. Think about it: it doesn't work, makes the game more expensive, leaves me without the possibility of a backup copy, installs software which interferes with virtual drives. How can anyone in his right mind think this is a good idea? -peter |
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 00:03:11 +0100, Ruud Dingemans wrote:
> > Referring to Mehdi Ali, a name that will (and should) forever live on in > infamy. > > > > > Do I win a prize..? > Pick up your beer when you're in the area ;-) Talking of the Deathbed Vigil video, does anyone have a digital copy? My old VCR is acting up and I have no means of converting analog video to digital formats. Cheers & WD, uwe -- GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61 |
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And it gets worse still when you consider the fact that the software
houses think that they'll defend their huge profits by using a petty protection system! We have to remember: The sim developers probably hate the idea of using starforce to protect their game, because: 1) The software house buys the game from a developer, and the developer gets a sum of money for this, and in a few cases, get a sum per copy sold, but I would think that this is substantial in most cases 2) The developer would like to see as many as possible enjoying his/her game/sim, since she/he knows that the spin-off effect of a massively used sim is huge, and will pay dividends in due time. This discussion is 100% analog to the music industry copy protecting their "cds". Why are they using such a thing? It is because they want to defend their huge profit and ability to shape the market through PR campaigns instead of founding a purchase in quality, craftsmanship and artistry. The artists are bought completely these days, and see little or nothing of the astronomical profit of the record companies. We will see more and more independant game/sim developers since the software houses are exploiting the market and not giving it back to the developers. Just like the music industry. Think of all the talent and ideas out there not being used or developed just because a software house or a record company think they won't pay dividends for *them*! ---Asgeir--- Peter wrote: <snip> > > The point is that some people just think that this kind of copy-protection > is going too far. I'm one of them and I won't be buying GTR because of it. > > Think about it: it doesn't work, makes the game more expensive, leaves me > without the possibility of a backup copy, installs software which interferes > with virtual drives. How can anyone in his right mind think this is a good > idea? > > -peter > |
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 03:35:47 +1100, "Byron Forbes"
> wrote: > >"Remco Moedt" > wrote in message ... >> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 06:36:24 GMT, Todd Walker > >> wrote: >> >>>So what should the developers do? >> >> Whatever they do, at least don't use something which will sabotage >> other present programs, like Nero. I also remember I tried to update >> my legal copy of Operation Flashpoint, which didn't work. The reason >> was that the update installer found a CD writer on my PC, and just >> stopped updating OF without any message.... >> > > So what are you saying Remco, that this starforce stuff can interfere >with CD/DVD drives and their software? Yes. I had to remove the demo since I couldn't use Nero anymore. Seems like Starforce is doing something when software is installed which can create virtual drives. Cheers! Remco |
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So you're saying that games/music need to pirated in order to become
widespread and succeed. Isn't that the idea of demos/radio play? Are you saying that the entire copyright system should be scrapped? |
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