How much is my honda civic worth??

Im considering selling my car, this is what its got in it, so tell me,
whats it worth?? i see it blue books out at around 5-6 on the high end,
but thats not accounting for options... so if any of you have an idea on
what this puppys worth, let me know

1995 Honda Civic EX (116,571 actual milage)

List of options

Interior

JDM console from 4 door civic / painted to match exterior
B&M short throw shifter
Reverse indiglo gauges with custom Scuderia Ferrari inlay
Pillar mount gauge pod with air/fuel and voltage autometer gauges
painted speaker grills to match exterior
Faux trunk floor with hydraulic lift, looks stock, lifts up, all mirrors
undernieth
all door handles and switches painted to match exterior
radar detector custom installed with speaker above drivers head
(so you can hear it go off with music on)



Exterior

JDM BMW style halo headlights with black corners
Alteeza BMW style tail lights
New paint on front end
BMW style side markers
17x7 ADR trama rims, with kumho ecsta 712 z rated tires

Engine

SOHC d16z6

Acell thundersport plug wires and NGK plugs
AEM cold air intake mounted inside fender for colder air
Ractive exhaust DTM style with twin 3 inch tips
(its not a fart can, and doesnt sound like a weedwacker)


Electrical modifications regarding under hood

All gound wires replaced with 4 GA monster cable
there is no battery under the hood, but a 4 GA input to the junction box
4 sets of constant 12v out at the ECM, 4 ga cable running to trunk
Optima red top batterys mounted in trunk, under faux floor


Stereo

Alpine 9831 cd/mp3 with aux input adapter
2 12" kenwood subs
1 bazooka 800 watt amp
1 lightning 1.5 farad capacitor
Fuseless, all stereo and main elec. cables have 300A circuit breakers
4 orion xtr 5.25 mids
all above (ex speakers) mounted inside faux trunk floor


Video

Playstation 2 wired in, has hookups in trunk for n64 gamecube and xbox
can run one of each system described above
1000 watt trace inverter (ive run my house off it during power failures)
Inverter runs ps2, and has outs for whatever you want could run up to a
52"
TV if you so chose
ps2 controller hookups remote mounted inside ashtray
remote eye for ps2 video remote conrol in ashtray also
Ps2 sound through alpine in dolby surround sound
1 orcom 7 inch flat panel lcd tv in passenger visor

Other

Neupseed style strut bars
New ball joints
new control arms
new drive shafts
new cv joints
new brakes (full system pads rotors drums)
new dristributor
new rotor
new timing belt
oil system is self draining, change oil in 5 minutes
oil changed every 2000 miles
summer car, its never seen snow, its driven from may-september then
covered
and stored
no rust at all... NONE... anywhere
its a 95, but no kidding it looks brand new

23 bucks if you throw in some fuzzy dice

ha, i didnt post all that to get schrewed remarks.... im just trying to get
as much of my 20 thousand dollar investment back...thought of swapping for
an h22a2 and turboing this car, however.... an STI wrx sounds like more
fun... so i wanna sell it

It is worth whatever you can get for it to be honest. You can tell how much
anything is worth down to the penny. However much you can sell it for that
is how much it is worth. Now going away from philosophy here....

You have a car that you are interested in selling. By adding all of those
modifications you have eliminated about 99 percent of the possible buyers.
Most people don't wan't a car that has had all this stuff done to it and
they certainly don't want to spend money to get this stuff. So now you are
stuck selling to some kids that really would want your car. The problem is
that kids don't have the money laying around to buy this car. They would
have to get a loan. To the bank the car isn't worth any more that blue book
value so the maximum loan amount would be book value. Now assume you have
somebody that has a lot of money laying around and want's to buy a car for
cash. That person probably wants a newer car that they can modify or just a
newer car period so they wouldn't be interested in yours.

The fact is that there are thousands of cars, in the US anyways, that
people have invested thousands in to and they only get pennies on the dollar
for return. Especially when it comes to common cars such as yours. Even
with nicely rebuilt muscle cars or whatever you never get you money out of
them.



"Boxxer" > wrote in message
lkaboutautos.com...
> ha, i didnt post all that to get schrewed remarks.... im just trying to
> get
> as much of my 20 thousand dollar investment back...thought of swapping for
> an h22a2 and turboing this car, however.... an STI wrx sounds like more
> fun... so i wanna sell it
>

"halo2 guy" > wrote in message
...
> It is worth whatever you can get for it to be honest. You can tell how
much
> anything is worth down to the penny. However much you can sell it for
that
> is how much it is worth. Now going away from philosophy here....
>
> You have a car that you are interested in selling. By adding all of those
> modifications you have eliminated about 99 percent of the possible buyers.
> Most people don't wan't a car that has had all this stuff done to it and
> they certainly don't want to spend money to get this stuff. So now you
are
> stuck selling to some kids that really would want your car. The problem
is
> that kids don't have the money laying around to buy this car. They would
> have to get a loan. To the bank the car isn't worth any more that blue
book
> value so the maximum loan amount would be book value. Now assume you have
> somebody that has a lot of money laying around and want's to buy a car for
> cash. That person probably wants a newer car that they can modify or just
a
> newer car period so they wouldn't be interested in yours.
>
> The fact is that there are thousands of cars, in the US anyways, that
> people have invested thousands in to and they only get pennies on the
dollar
> for return. Especially when it comes to common cars such as yours. Even
> with nicely rebuilt muscle cars or whatever you never get you money out of
> them.
>
>
well said!
the car is worth $3-4K at the most if you ask me..and you can keep all those
add-ons!

On 1/28/2005 12:30 AM, halo2 guy wrote:
> The fact is that there are thousands of cars, in the US anyways, that
> people have invested thousands in to and they only get pennies on the dollar
> for return. Especially when it comes to common cars such as yours. Even
> with nicely rebuilt muscle cars or whatever you never get you money out of
> them.
>

As a lurker here and in the market for car... Older buyer, not a kid.
Seeing the list of mods, my first worry would be "what else can go
wrong" and "how hard was it driven." IMHO, the blue book on an older car
is meant to reflect the value of the car, which is meant to reflect the
amount of potential grief to the new owner. The higher the blue book for
a standard car, the less potential grief. Mods, for many buyers,
subtract from that. If I were to buy a very modded used car... frankly,
I just wouldn't.

Not to say there isn't a buyer out there for a premium price, but you
need to find somebody with graduation money in their pocket, some kid
who will push back on daddy until he gets what he wants (or adult with
similar mentality). Anybody who really values the changes is likely the
same kind of person that wants to do the changes themselves.

I guess key would be how long are you willing to wait to sell it? If it
is well kept and good looking, the buyer exists, but finding them....

My two cents.

I can hold off on selling it as long as i want, its paid for, i gave
thought to listing it on ebay... but thats too much hassle, i might as
well just keep it...

"Boxxer" > wrote in message
lkaboutautos.com...
>I can hold off on selling it as long as i want, its paid for, i gave
> thought to listing it on ebay... but thats too much hassle, i might as
> well just keep it...

What hassle do you see for listing on ebay, as opposed to a regular private
sale?

you can advertise in auto trader and most likely you local newspaper for a
one time fee and run the ad forever. You just have to renew the ad every
couple weeks or so.


"Boxxer" > wrote in message
lkaboutautos.com...
>I can hold off on selling it as long as i want, its paid for, i gave
> thought to listing it on ebay... but thats too much hassle, i might as
> well just keep it...
>

116k isn't too bad for a Civic of that age. I'd just keep it. You'll never
get the money you put into those mods back. If you do sell it I'd expect the
value to be around the $2500-$3,000 range.

"Boxxer" > wrote in message
lkaboutautos.com...
> Im considering selling my car, this is what its got in it, so tell me,
> whats it worth?? i see it blue books out at around 5-6 on the high end,
> but thats not accounting for options... so if any of you have an idea on
> what this puppys worth, let me know
>
> 1995 Honda Civic EX (116,571 actual milage)
>
> List of options
>
> Interior
>
> JDM console from 4 door civic / painted to match exterior
> B&M short throw shifter
> Reverse indiglo gauges with custom Scuderia Ferrari inlay
> Pillar mount gauge pod with air/fuel and voltage autometer gauges
> painted speaker grills to match exterior
> Faux trunk floor with hydraulic lift, looks stock, lifts up, all mirrors
> undernieth
> all door handles and switches painted to match exterior
> radar detector custom installed with speaker above drivers head
> (so you can hear it go off with music on)
>
>
>
> Exterior
>
> JDM BMW style halo headlights with black corners
> Alteeza BMW style tail lights
> New paint on front end
> BMW style side markers
> 17x7 ADR trama rims, with kumho ecsta 712 z rated tires
>
> Engine
>
> SOHC d16z6
>
> Acell thundersport plug wires and NGK plugs
> AEM cold air intake mounted inside fender for colder air
> Ractive exhaust DTM style with twin 3 inch tips
> (its not a fart can, and doesnt sound like a weedwacker)
>
>
> Electrical modifications regarding under hood
>
> All gound wires replaced with 4 GA monster cable
> there is no battery under the hood, but a 4 GA input to the junction box
> 4 sets of constant 12v out at the ECM, 4 ga cable running to trunk
> Optima red top batterys mounted in trunk, under faux floor
>
>
> Stereo
>
> Alpine 9831 cd/mp3 with aux input adapter
> 2 12" kenwood subs
> 1 bazooka 800 watt amp
> 1 lightning 1.5 farad capacitor
> Fuseless, all stereo and main elec. cables have 300A circuit breakers
> 4 orion xtr 5.25 mids
> all above (ex speakers) mounted inside faux trunk floor
>
>
> Video
>
> Playstation 2 wired in, has hookups in trunk for n64 gamecube and xbox
> can run one of each system described above
> 1000 watt trace inverter (ive run my house off it during power failures)
> Inverter runs ps2, and has outs for whatever you want could run up to a
> 52"
> TV if you so chose
> ps2 controller hookups remote mounted inside ashtray
> remote eye for ps2 video remote conrol in ashtray also
> Ps2 sound through alpine in dolby surround sound
> 1 orcom 7 inch flat panel lcd tv in passenger visor
>
> Other
>
> Neupseed style strut bars
> New ball joints
> new control arms
> new drive shafts
> new cv joints
> new brakes (full system pads rotors drums)
> new dristributor
> new rotor
> new timing belt
> oil system is self draining, change oil in 5 minutes
> oil changed every 2000 miles
> summer car, its never seen snow, its driven from may-september then
> covered
> and stored
> no rust at all... NONE... anywhere
> its a 95, but no kidding it looks brand new
>
>
>
>
>