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Epidemic of drunk driving so Ontario looks at random breath tests
The loony libertarians will howl about this but it's not half as bad as the searches EVERYONE goes thru to fly on a commercial airliiner even though drunk drivers pose a thousand times the threat terrorists do. http://www.torontosun.com/news/canad.../15949036.html Thursday, November 4, 2010 Ontario looks at random breath tests .Ontario isn’t slamming the door on random breathalyzer tests of drivers, Attorney General Chris Bentley says. “What we told the federal minister is that we will take a look at the proposals ... I want to do anything that will protect public safety, but what we want to do is make sure that the law is understandable and that law applies in a way that is constitutionally appropriate and that law enhances public safety,” Bentley said Wednesday. Federal Justice Minister Rob Nicholson and Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD) are supportive of legislative changes that would empower police to perform breath tests on motorists even if there is no reason to suspect drunk driving. NDP Justice Critic Peter Kormos said police officers already have the tools they need to apprehend impaired drivers. “For police officers to demand breath samples without any reason whatsoever is an outrageous breach of every Ontarian’s, every Canadian’s, civil liberties,” he said. “It’s very disturbing that in the shadow of the G20 arrests, where there were clear violations of hundreds, thousands, of people’s civil liberties, that the Attorney General wouldn’t immediately reject this proposition as being one that’s contrary to the Charter and not necessary for effective policing.” Many Torontonians and visitors were subjected to random stops by police officers during the G20 Summit in June, sparking numerous complaints that the cops had violated people’s civil liberties. |
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On 11/4/2010 10:59 PM, Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are Murderers wrote:
> > The loony libertarians will howl about this but it's not half as bad > as the searches EVERYONE goes thru to fly on a commercial airliiner > even though drunk drivers pose a thousand times the threat terrorists > do. > > http://www.torontosun.com/news/canad.../15949036.html > > Thursday, November 4, 2010 > > Ontario looks at random breath tests > .Ontario isn’t slamming the door on random breathalyzer tests of > drivers, Attorney General Chris Bentley says. > > “What we told the federal minister is that we will take a look at the > proposals ... I want to do anything that will protect public safety, > but what we want to do is make sure that the law is understandable and > that law applies in a way that is constitutionally appropriate and > that law enhances public safety,” Bentley said Wednesday. > > Federal Justice Minister Rob Nicholson and Mothers Against Drunk > Driving (MADD) are supportive of legislative changes that would > empower police to perform breath tests on motorists even if there is > no reason to suspect drunk driving. > > NDP Justice Critic Peter Kormos said police officers already have the > tools they need to apprehend impaired drivers. > > “For police officers to demand breath samples without any reason > whatsoever is an outrageous breach of every Ontarian’s, every > Canadian’s, civil liberties,” he said. “It’s very disturbing that in > the shadow of the G20 arrests, where there were clear violations of > hundreds, thousands, of people’s civil liberties, that the Attorney > General wouldn’t immediately reject this proposition as being one > that’s contrary to the Charter and not necessary for effective > policing.” > > Many Torontonians and visitors were subjected to random stops by > police officers during the G20 Summit in June, sparking numerous > complaints that the cops had violated people’s civil liberties. > Ontario Socialist never saw an intrusion they didn't think was a good thing. The 401 has little traffic so they would have to stop every other one, on many stretches to have enough stops to say they worked that day. |
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Epidemic of drunk driving so Ontario looks at random breath tests
If loony libertarians want to drive drunk let them do it on private
propety not public roads. |
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Epidemic of drunk driving so Ontario looks at random breath tests
On Nov 5, 11:16*am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are Murderers"
> wrote: > If loony libertarians want to drive drunk let them do it on private > propety not public roads. So true. I sympathize with many of their positions, not this one. Michael |
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S4B spewed:
>If loony libertarians want to drive drunk let them do it on private >propety not public roads. If you want your illusion of safety then stay home, you brain dead american (sic) ****. -- "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." --Benjamin Franklin |
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Epidemic of drunk driving so Ontario looks at random breath tests
"Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are Murderers" > wrote in message ... The loony libertarians will howl about this but it's not half as bad as the searches EVERYONE goes thru to fly on a commercial airliiner even though drunk drivers pose a thousand times the threat terrorists do. This loony libertarian thinks that one terrorist might give his life to head on a car carrying one or two infidels, but that's not nearly as efficient as one terrorist giving up his life to take out an airliner carrying 2 or 3 hundred infidels. I'll stick to driving, thanks.....But I really hope you have a nice flight. |
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Epidemic of drunk driving so Ontario looks at random breath tests
"Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are Murderers" > wrote in message ... > If loony libertarians want to drive drunk let them do it on private > propety not public roads. I don't know any libertarians who want to drive drunk. You should be able to drive normally, whether you are drunk or not. And, this is pretty much the way it is right now. first, a cap has to see you doing something abnormal before he can stop you. Then, he can test your ability to drive and arrest you if he or his machinery finds out that you are incapable, (for one reason or another) of driving safely. I personally see nothing wrong with that. |
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S4B spewed:
>The loony libertarians will howl about this but it's not half as bad >as the searches EVERYONE goes thru to fly on a commercial airliiner >even though drunk drivers pose a thousand times the threat terrorists >do. Those weren't Corollas that took down the towers, you stupid ****ing american (sic). |
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On Nov 5, 3:51*pm, "Bill Graham" > wrote:
> "Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are Murderers" > wrote in > ... > > The loony libertarians will howl about this but it's not half as bad > as the searches EVERYONE goes thru to fly on a commercial airliiner > even though drunk drivers pose a thousand times the threat terrorists > do. > > This loony libertarian thinks that one terrorist might give his life to head > on a car carrying one or two infidels, but that's not nearly as efficient as > one terrorist giving up his life to take out an airliner carrying 2 or 3 > hundred infidels. I'll stick to driving, thanks.....But I really hope you > have a nice flight. What are you talking about? No one claims terrorists are deliberately causing car crashes. |
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Epidemic of drunk driving so Ontario looks at random breath tests
"Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are Murderers" > wrote in message ... On Nov 5, 3:51 pm, "Bill Graham" > wrote: > "Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are Murderers" > wrote in > ... > > The loony libertarians will howl about this but it's not half as bad > as the searches EVERYONE goes thru to fly on a commercial airliiner > even though drunk drivers pose a thousand times the threat terrorists > do. > > This loony libertarian thinks that one terrorist might give his life to > head > on a car carrying one or two infidels, but that's not nearly as efficient > as > one terrorist giving up his life to take out an airliner carrying 2 or 3 > hundred infidels. I'll stick to driving, thanks.....But I really hope you > have a nice flight. What are you talking about? No one claims terrorists are deliberately causing car crashes. Nor did I, because it's so inefficient. Giving your life to crash an airliner is much more efficient. That's why I don't fly anywhere (Unless I have to) But you are the one who compared flying to driving, not me. I also don't drive anywhere unless I have to. |
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