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Old July 11th 10, 05:04 PM posted to rec.autos.driving
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Default OH TP Speeders Clocked At 100+ Declining

Number Of Speeders Clocked At 100+ Declining, Still Prevalent Along
Ohio Highways

What is it about the Ohio Turnpike that entices speed demons to push
speedometers past 100?

The toll road that cuts across the northern portion of the state
accounted for more than one-quarter of all the 100 mph or higher
citations issued by Ohio Highway Patrol troopers in the past five
years, according to data obtained by CentralOhio.com.

Extreme speeding is such a problem on the turnpike that the 30-mile
stretch of Interstates 80-90 in Sandusky County had almost as many 100
mph tickets (301) as all of Interstate 77, which had 306 on its 165
Ohio miles.

Patrol Sgt. Max Norris said the rural setting and high volume of out-
of-state travelers may be the reason for the concentration of extreme
speeders.

"It's a statewide stretch of flat roadway with almost no curves,"
Norris wrote in an e-mail. "It also services travelers from other
areas of the country, where drivers are accustomed to traveling at
higher speeds."

Norris went on to add that a span of country highway also means less
merging traffic and more open road. He also touted the figures as
showing the vigilant enforcement of traffic laws by the patrol, even
outside of population centers.

The most troubling revelation from the data may be the confirmation
that young drivers -- the least equipped with experience and learned
driving skills -- are the worst speed offenders.

Motorists between ages 16 and 24 accounted for 47 percent of the 6,551
tickets at 100 mph or more. This age group accounts for only 13
percent of the licensed drivers in Ohio, according to Ohio Bureau of
Motor Vehicles data.

Norris said that the patrol leads or partners in programs trying to
change that lack of respect for the danger of speed.

"We try to use education to get the message out to this age group," he
wrote.
http://www.thenews-messenger.com/art.../Beyond-limits
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Old July 12th 10, 12:41 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
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Default OH TP Speeders Clocked At 100+ Declining

gpsman wrote:
> Number Of Speeders Clocked At 100+ Declining, Still Prevalent Along
> Ohio Highways
>
> What is it about the Ohio Turnpike that entices speed demons to push
> speedometers past 100?
>
> The toll road that cuts across the northern portion of the state
> accounted for more than one-quarter of all the 100 mph or higher
> citations issued by Ohio Highway Patrol troopers in the past five
> years, according to data obtained by CentralOhio.com.
>
> Extreme speeding is such a problem on the turnpike that the 30-mile
> stretch of Interstates 80-90 in Sandusky County had almost as many 100
> mph tickets (301) as all of Interstate 77, which had 306 on its 165
> Ohio miles.
>
> Patrol Sgt. Max Norris said the rural setting and high volume of out-
> of-state travelers may be the reason for the concentration of extreme
> speeders.
>
> "It's a statewide stretch of flat roadway with almost no curves,"
> Norris wrote in an e-mail. "It also services travelers from other
> areas of the country, where drivers are accustomed to traveling at
> higher speeds."
>
> Norris went on to add that a span of country highway also means less
> merging traffic and more open road. He also touted the figures as
> showing the vigilant enforcement of traffic laws by the patrol, even
> outside of population centers.
>
> The most troubling revelation from the data may be the confirmation
> that young drivers -- the least equipped with experience and learned
> driving skills -- are the worst speed offenders.
>
> Motorists between ages 16 and 24 accounted for 47 percent of the 6,551
> tickets at 100 mph or more. This age group accounts for only 13
> percent of the licensed drivers in Ohio, according to Ohio Bureau of
> Motor Vehicles data.
>
> Norris said that the patrol leads or partners in programs trying to
> change that lack of respect for the danger of speed.
>
> "We try to use education to get the message out to this age group," he
> wrote.
> http://www.thenews-messenger.com/art.../Beyond-limits
> -----
>
> - gpsman

The speed are extreme because of the number 100? Maybe they need to
reconfigure the mile to 5,000 Arshuns. 100 mph would then be only 32mph.
They make KPH sound so fast with big numbers. It sounds dastardly for a
Driver to be doing 50KPH in a 30 KPH zone or whatever until you see that
50 KPH is only like 30 mph. I didn't do the math but you get the idea.
100MPh is fast if everybody else is doing 50 MPH. There are sections of
roads where the average speed, despite postings, is over 100 MPH. LEOs
pass these folks on the way to the restaurant at those speeds.
Now Georgia's Governor and others are using speed to make massive
amounts of money to make up for the shortages they generated by
subsidizing mega developers.
Montana and other States did not impose speed limits because of any
safety problems. They did it because of Nanny Staters that invaded
Montana from California and Washington and Oregon.
Tehy like to get on the expressways etc and take a leisurely 45 mph
drive, in the left lane.
There are a whole lot of ahnd wringers out there though.
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Old July 12th 10, 12:49 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
Nate Nagel[_2_]
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Default OH TP Speeders Clocked At 100+ Declining

On 07/11/2010 07:41 PM, lil abner wrote:
> gpsman wrote:
>> Number Of Speeders Clocked At 100+ Declining, Still Prevalent Along
>> Ohio Highways
>>
>> What is it about the Ohio Turnpike that entices speed demons to push
>> speedometers past 100?
>>
>> The toll road that cuts across the northern portion of the state
>> accounted for more than one-quarter of all the 100 mph or higher
>> citations issued by Ohio Highway Patrol troopers in the past five
>> years, according to data obtained by CentralOhio.com.
>>
>> Extreme speeding is such a problem on the turnpike that the 30-mile
>> stretch of Interstates 80-90 in Sandusky County had almost as many 100
>> mph tickets (301) as all of Interstate 77, which had 306 on its 165
>> Ohio miles.
>>
>> Patrol Sgt. Max Norris said the rural setting and high volume of out-
>> of-state travelers may be the reason for the concentration of extreme
>> speeders.
>>
>> "It's a statewide stretch of flat roadway with almost no curves,"
>> Norris wrote in an e-mail. "It also services travelers from other
>> areas of the country, where drivers are accustomed to traveling at
>> higher speeds."
>>
>> Norris went on to add that a span of country highway also means less
>> merging traffic and more open road. He also touted the figures as
>> showing the vigilant enforcement of traffic laws by the patrol, even
>> outside of population centers.
>>
>> The most troubling revelation from the data may be the confirmation
>> that young drivers -- the least equipped with experience and learned
>> driving skills -- are the worst speed offenders.
>>
>> Motorists between ages 16 and 24 accounted for 47 percent of the 6,551
>> tickets at 100 mph or more. This age group accounts for only 13
>> percent of the licensed drivers in Ohio, according to Ohio Bureau of
>> Motor Vehicles data.
>>
>> Norris said that the patrol leads or partners in programs trying to
>> change that lack of respect for the danger of speed.
>>
>> "We try to use education to get the message out to this age group," he
>> wrote.
>> http://www.thenews-messenger.com/art.../Beyond-limits
>>
>> -----
>>
>> - gpsman

> The speed are extreme because of the number 100? Maybe they need to
> reconfigure the mile to 5,000 Arshuns. 100 mph would then be only 32mph.
> They make KPH sound so fast with big numbers. It sounds dastardly for a
> Driver to be doing 50KPH in a 30 KPH zone or whatever until you see that
> 50 KPH is only like 30 mph. I didn't do the math but you get the idea.
> 100MPh is fast if everybody else is doing 50 MPH. There are sections of
> roads where the average speed, despite postings, is over 100 MPH. LEOs
> pass these folks on the way to the restaurant at those speeds.
> Now Georgia's Governor and others are using speed to make massive
> amounts of money to make up for the shortages they generated by
> subsidizing mega developers.
> Montana and other States did not impose speed limits because of any
> safety problems. They did it because of Nanny Staters that invaded
> Montana from California and Washington and Oregon.
> Tehy like to get on the expressways etc and take a leisurely 45 mph
> drive, in the left lane.
> There are a whole lot of ahnd wringers out there though.


Ever driven in Ohio? The TP is straight. And flat. And straight and
flat. Once you pass Cleveland you can pretty much tie off the steering
wheel and take a nap until Toledo. Any shocker that people drive fast
there? I'm not really surprised, except that I guess those people
haven't heard that OSP have no sense of humor.

nate

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Old July 12th 10, 03:52 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
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Default OH TP Speeders Clocked At 100+ Declining

In article >,
Nate Nagel > wrote:

> On 07/11/2010 07:41 PM, lil abner wrote:
> > gpsman wrote:
> >> Number Of Speeders Clocked At 100+ Declining, Still Prevalent Along
> >> Ohio Highways
> >>
> >> What is it about the Ohio Turnpike that entices speed demons to push
> >> speedometers past 100?
> >>
> >> The toll road that cuts across the northern portion of the state
> >> accounted for more than one-quarter of all the 100 mph or higher
> >> citations issued by Ohio Highway Patrol troopers in the past five
> >> years, according to data obtained by CentralOhio.com.
> >>
> >> Extreme speeding is such a problem on the turnpike that the 30-mile
> >> stretch of Interstates 80-90 in Sandusky County had almost as many 100
> >> mph tickets (301) as all of Interstate 77, which had 306 on its 165
> >> Ohio miles.
> >>
> >> Patrol Sgt. Max Norris said the rural setting and high volume of out-
> >> of-state travelers may be the reason for the concentration of extreme
> >> speeders.
> >>
> >> "It's a statewide stretch of flat roadway with almost no curves,"
> >> Norris wrote in an e-mail. "It also services travelers from other
> >> areas of the country, where drivers are accustomed to traveling at
> >> higher speeds."
> >>
> >> Norris went on to add that a span of country highway also means less
> >> merging traffic and more open road. He also touted the figures as
> >> showing the vigilant enforcement of traffic laws by the patrol, even
> >> outside of population centers.
> >>
> >> The most troubling revelation from the data may be the confirmation
> >> that young drivers -- the least equipped with experience and learned
> >> driving skills -- are the worst speed offenders.
> >>
> >> Motorists between ages 16 and 24 accounted for 47 percent of the 6,551
> >> tickets at 100 mph or more. This age group accounts for only 13
> >> percent of the licensed drivers in Ohio, according to Ohio Bureau of
> >> Motor Vehicles data.
> >>
> >> Norris said that the patrol leads or partners in programs trying to
> >> change that lack of respect for the danger of speed.
> >>
> >> "We try to use education to get the message out to this age group," he
> >> wrote.
> >> http://www.thenews-messenger.com/art...307/Beyond-lim
> >> its
> >>
> >> -----
> >>
> >> - gpsman

> > The speed are extreme because of the number 100? Maybe they need to
> > reconfigure the mile to 5,000 Arshuns. 100 mph would then be only 32mph.
> > They make KPH sound so fast with big numbers. It sounds dastardly for a
> > Driver to be doing 50KPH in a 30 KPH zone or whatever until you see that
> > 50 KPH is only like 30 mph. I didn't do the math but you get the idea.
> > 100MPh is fast if everybody else is doing 50 MPH. There are sections of
> > roads where the average speed, despite postings, is over 100 MPH. LEOs
> > pass these folks on the way to the restaurant at those speeds.
> > Now Georgia's Governor and others are using speed to make massive
> > amounts of money to make up for the shortages they generated by
> > subsidizing mega developers.
> > Montana and other States did not impose speed limits because of any
> > safety problems. They did it because of Nanny Staters that invaded
> > Montana from California and Washington and Oregon.
> > Tehy like to get on the expressways etc and take a leisurely 45 mph
> > drive, in the left lane.
> > There are a whole lot of ahnd wringers out there though.

>
> Ever driven in Ohio? The TP is straight. And flat. And straight and
> flat. Once you pass Cleveland you can pretty much tie off the steering
> wheel and take a nap until Toledo. Any shocker that people drive fast
> there? I'm not really surprised, except that I guess those people
> haven't heard that OSP have no sense of humor.
>
> nate


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Old July 12th 10, 05:05 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
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Default OH TP Speeders Clocked At 100+ Declining

On Jul 11, 4:49*pm, Nate Nagel > wrote:
> On 07/11/2010 07:41 PM, lil abner wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > gpsman wrote:
> >> Number Of Speeders Clocked At 100+ Declining, Still Prevalent Along
> >> Ohio Highways

>
> >> What is it about the Ohio Turnpike that entices speed demons to push
> >> speedometers past 100?

>
> >> The toll road that cuts across the northern portion of the state
> >> accounted for more than one-quarter of all the 100 mph or higher
> >> citations issued by Ohio Highway Patrol troopers in the past five
> >> years, according to data obtained by CentralOhio.com.

>
> >> Extreme speeding is such a problem on the turnpike that the 30-mile
> >> stretch of Interstates 80-90 in Sandusky County had almost as many 100
> >> mph tickets (301) as all of Interstate 77, which had 306 on its 165
> >> Ohio miles.

>
> >> Patrol Sgt. Max Norris said the rural setting and high volume of out-
> >> of-state travelers may be the reason for the concentration of extreme
> >> speeders.

>
> >> "It's a statewide stretch of flat roadway with almost no curves,"
> >> Norris wrote in an e-mail. "It also services travelers from other
> >> areas of the country, where drivers are accustomed to traveling at
> >> higher speeds."

>
> >> Norris went on to add that a span of country highway also means less
> >> merging traffic and more open road. He also touted the figures as
> >> showing the vigilant enforcement of traffic laws by the patrol, even
> >> outside of population centers.

>
> >> The most troubling revelation from the data may be the confirmation
> >> that young drivers -- the least equipped with experience and learned
> >> driving skills -- are the worst speed offenders.

>
> >> Motorists between ages 16 and 24 accounted for 47 percent of the 6,551
> >> tickets at 100 mph or more. This age group accounts for only 13
> >> percent of the licensed drivers in Ohio, according to Ohio Bureau of
> >> Motor Vehicles data.

>
> >> Norris said that the patrol leads or partners in programs trying to
> >> change that lack of respect for the danger of speed.

>
> >> "We try to use education to get the message out to this age group," he
> >> wrote.
> >>http://www.thenews-messenger.com/art...1/7100307/Beyo....

>
> >> -----

>
> >> - gpsman

> > The speed are extreme because of the number 100? Maybe they need to
> > reconfigure the mile to 5,000 Arshuns. 100 mph would then be only 32mph..
> > They make KPH sound so fast with big numbers. It sounds dastardly for a
> > Driver to be doing 50KPH in a 30 KPH zone or whatever until you see that
> > 50 KPH is only like 30 mph. I didn't do the math but you get the idea.
> > 100MPh is fast if everybody else is doing 50 MPH. There are sections of
> > roads where the average speed, despite postings, is over 100 MPH. LEOs
> > pass these folks on the way to the restaurant at those speeds.
> > Now Georgia's Governor and others are using speed to make massive
> > amounts of money to make up for the shortages they generated by
> > subsidizing mega developers.
> > Montana and other States did not impose speed limits because of any
> > safety problems. They did it because of Nanny Staters that invaded
> > Montana from California and Washington and Oregon.
> > Tehy like to get on the expressways etc and take a leisurely 45 mph
> > drive, in the left lane.
> > There are a whole lot of ahnd wringers out there though.

>
> Ever driven in Ohio? *The TP is straight. *And flat. *And straight and
> flat. *Once you pass Cleveland you can pretty much tie off the steering
> wheel and take a nap until Toledo. *Any shocker that people drive fast
> there? *I'm not really surprised, except that I guess those people
> haven't heard that OSP have no sense of humor.
>
> nate
>

Having done the coast to coast many times. "flat and straight" pretty
much describes everything from the Mississippi to the Rockies. Some
of the most boring drives in the country. I used to revel in crossing
the Montana line even in some of the wrecks I drove.

Harry K
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Old July 12th 10, 05:12 PM posted to rec.autos.driving
lil abner[_2_]
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Default OH TP Speeders Clocked At 100+ Declining

Harry K wrote:
> On Jul 11, 4:49 pm, Nate Nagel > wrote:
>> On 07/11/2010 07:41 PM, lil abner wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> gpsman wrote:
>>>> Number Of Speeders Clocked At 100+ Declining, Still Prevalent Along
>>>> Ohio Highways
>>>> What is it about the Ohio Turnpike that entices speed demons to push
>>>> speedometers past 100?
>>>> The toll road that cuts across the northern portion of the state
>>>> accounted for more than one-quarter of all the 100 mph or higher
>>>> citations issued by Ohio Highway Patrol troopers in the past five
>>>> years, according to data obtained by CentralOhio.com.
>>>> Extreme speeding is such a problem on the turnpike that the 30-mile
>>>> stretch of Interstates 80-90 in Sandusky County had almost as many 100
>>>> mph tickets (301) as all of Interstate 77, which had 306 on its 165
>>>> Ohio miles.
>>>> Patrol Sgt. Max Norris said the rural setting and high volume of out-
>>>> of-state travelers may be the reason for the concentration of extreme
>>>> speeders.
>>>> "It's a statewide stretch of flat roadway with almost no curves,"
>>>> Norris wrote in an e-mail. "It also services travelers from other
>>>> areas of the country, where drivers are accustomed to traveling at
>>>> higher speeds."
>>>> Norris went on to add that a span of country highway also means less
>>>> merging traffic and more open road. He also touted the figures as
>>>> showing the vigilant enforcement of traffic laws by the patrol, even
>>>> outside of population centers.
>>>> The most troubling revelation from the data may be the confirmation
>>>> that young drivers -- the least equipped with experience and learned
>>>> driving skills -- are the worst speed offenders.
>>>> Motorists between ages 16 and 24 accounted for 47 percent of the 6,551
>>>> tickets at 100 mph or more. This age group accounts for only 13
>>>> percent of the licensed drivers in Ohio, according to Ohio Bureau of
>>>> Motor Vehicles data.
>>>> Norris said that the patrol leads or partners in programs trying to
>>>> change that lack of respect for the danger of speed.
>>>> "We try to use education to get the message out to this age group," he
>>>> wrote.
>>>> http://www.thenews-messenger.com/art...1/7100307/Beyo...
>>>> -----
>>>> - gpsman
>>> The speed are extreme because of the number 100? Maybe they need to
>>> reconfigure the mile to 5,000 Arshuns. 100 mph would then be only 32mph.
>>> They make KPH sound so fast with big numbers. It sounds dastardly for a
>>> Driver to be doing 50KPH in a 30 KPH zone or whatever until you see that
>>> 50 KPH is only like 30 mph. I didn't do the math but you get the idea.
>>> 100MPh is fast if everybody else is doing 50 MPH. There are sections of
>>> roads where the average speed, despite postings, is over 100 MPH. LEOs
>>> pass these folks on the way to the restaurant at those speeds.
>>> Now Georgia's Governor and others are using speed to make massive
>>> amounts of money to make up for the shortages they generated by
>>> subsidizing mega developers.
>>> Montana and other States did not impose speed limits because of any
>>> safety problems. They did it because of Nanny Staters that invaded
>>> Montana from California and Washington and Oregon.
>>> Tehy like to get on the expressways etc and take a leisurely 45 mph
>>> drive, in the left lane.
>>> There are a whole lot of ahnd wringers out there though.

>> Ever driven in Ohio? The TP is straight. And flat. And straight and
>> flat. Once you pass Cleveland you can pretty much tie off the steering
>> wheel and take a nap until Toledo. Any shocker that people drive fast
>> there? I'm not really surprised, except that I guess those people
>> haven't heard that OSP have no sense of humor.
>>
>> nate
>>

> Having done the coast to coast many times. "flat and straight" pretty
> much describes everything from the Mississippi to the Rockies. Some
> of the most boring drives in the country. I used to revel in crossing
> the Montana line even in some of the wrecks I drove.
>
> Harry K

The fear of numbers larger than 45 is apparently at work.
What would we label such a phobia?
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Old July 12th 10, 05:13 PM posted to rec.autos.driving
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Default OH TP Speeders Clocked At 100+ Declining

On Jul 12, 12:05*am, Harry K > wrote:
> On Jul 11, 4:49*pm, Nate Nagel > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 07/11/2010 07:41 PM, lil abner wrote:

>
> > > gpsman wrote:
> > >> Number Of Speeders Clocked At 100+ Declining, Still Prevalent Along
> > >> Ohio Highways

>
> > >> What is it about the Ohio Turnpike that entices speed demons to push
> > >> speedometers past 100?

>
> > >> The toll road that cuts across the northern portion of the state
> > >> accounted for more than one-quarter of all the 100 mph or higher
> > >> citations issued by Ohio Highway Patrol troopers in the past five
> > >> years, according to data obtained by CentralOhio.com.

>
> > >> Extreme speeding is such a problem on the turnpike that the 30-mile
> > >> stretch of Interstates 80-90 in Sandusky County had almost as many 100
> > >> mph tickets (301) as all of Interstate 77, which had 306 on its 165
> > >> Ohio miles.

>
> > >> Patrol Sgt. Max Norris said the rural setting and high volume of out-
> > >> of-state travelers may be the reason for the concentration of extreme
> > >> speeders.

>
> > >> "It's a statewide stretch of flat roadway with almost no curves,"
> > >> Norris wrote in an e-mail. "It also services travelers from other
> > >> areas of the country, where drivers are accustomed to traveling at
> > >> higher speeds."

>
> > >> Norris went on to add that a span of country highway also means less
> > >> merging traffic and more open road. He also touted the figures as
> > >> showing the vigilant enforcement of traffic laws by the patrol, even
> > >> outside of population centers.

>
> > >> The most troubling revelation from the data may be the confirmation
> > >> that young drivers -- the least equipped with experience and learned
> > >> driving skills -- are the worst speed offenders.

>
> > >> Motorists between ages 16 and 24 accounted for 47 percent of the 6,551
> > >> tickets at 100 mph or more. This age group accounts for only 13
> > >> percent of the licensed drivers in Ohio, according to Ohio Bureau of
> > >> Motor Vehicles data.

>
> > >> Norris said that the patrol leads or partners in programs trying to
> > >> change that lack of respect for the danger of speed.

>
> > >> "We try to use education to get the message out to this age group," he
> > >> wrote.
> > >>http://www.thenews-messenger.com/art...1/7100307/Beyo....

>
> > >> -----

>
> > >> - gpsman
> > > The speed are extreme because of the number 100? Maybe they need to
> > > reconfigure the mile to 5,000 Arshuns. 100 mph would then be only 32mph.
> > > They make KPH sound so fast with big numbers. It sounds dastardly for a
> > > Driver to be doing 50KPH in a 30 KPH zone or whatever until you see that
> > > 50 KPH is only like 30 mph. I didn't do the math but you get the idea..
> > > 100MPh is fast if everybody else is doing 50 MPH. There are sections of
> > > roads where the average speed, despite postings, is over 100 MPH. LEOs
> > > pass these folks on the way to the restaurant at those speeds.
> > > Now Georgia's Governor and others are using speed to make massive
> > > amounts of money to make up for the shortages they generated by
> > > subsidizing mega developers.
> > > Montana and other States did not impose speed limits because of any
> > > safety problems. They did it because of Nanny Staters that invaded
> > > Montana from California and Washington and Oregon.
> > > Tehy like to get on the expressways etc and take a leisurely 45 mph
> > > drive, in the left lane.
> > > There are a whole lot of ahnd wringers out there though.

>
> > Ever driven in Ohio? *The TP is straight. *And flat. *And straight and
> > flat. *Once you pass Cleveland you can pretty much tie off the steering
> > wheel and take a nap until Toledo. *Any shocker that people drive fast
> > there? *I'm not really surprised, except that I guess those people
> > haven't heard that OSP have no sense of humor.

>
> > nate

>
> Having done the coast to coast many times. "flat and straight" pretty
> much describes everything from the Mississippi to the Rockies. *Some
> of the most boring drives in the country. *I used to revel in crossing
> the Montana line even in some of the wrecks I drove.
>
> Harry K


Possibly true, but I'm definitely an east coaster so I'm used to a
little terrain with my drive. Which makes the Cleveland-Toledo
stretch of the drive to Detroit particularly mind-numbing for me.

nate
 




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