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muffster wrote:
> has anyone tried installing the turbonator on there mustang and if so what > were the results? > http://www.turbonator.com/index.html?id=adWordsMustang > > I have a 02 GT and was wondering if this add on might be worth while. It would be about as worthwhile as Bush's illegal and immoral terror attack on Iraq, and the manufacture's claims of better performance and efficiency are about as honest as Bush's claims of freedom and democracy. HTH! - http://www.commondreams.org/ http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/ http://thirdworldtraveler.com/ http://counterpunch.org/ http://responsiblewealth.org/ http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/pol/80315675.html In September and October 2003, McClellan said he had spoken directly with Rove about the matter and that "he was not involved" in leaking Plame's identity to the news media. McClellan said at the time: "The president knows that Karl Rove wasn't involved," "It was a ridiculous suggestion" and "It's not true." Yet another in the endless stirng of bu$h's lies. "They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of warfare or morality." -bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq. http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm "God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did." -- George W. Bush "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." -- Adolf Hitler "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918) Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron... |
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My mechanic refused to install it... not install it for free.... and
not install a piece of junk.... but because he was laughing so hard, as were the rest of the mechanics in the bay, that he was afraid he'd put it in backwards..... LOL : 0 ) On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 20:57:29 -0400, Hank > wrote: >David M wrote: > >> Pure snake oil. > >> From their web site: >> 35 HP boosts are not typical. Your results with the Turbonator will >> probably, but not necessarily, be less. > > I liked this part: > > "If you don't feel comfortable installing it, have your > mechanic do it for you. If he doesn't install it for free, > find a new mechanic." > > >- > > > http://www.commondreams.org/ > http://www.truthout.org/ > http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/ > http://thirdworldtraveler.com/ > http://counterpunch.org/ > http://responsiblewealth.org/ > http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/pol/80315675.html > > "They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And > there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to > take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons > who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of > warfare or morality." > -bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq. > http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm > > > "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things > that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr. > > "God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then > he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did." > -- George W. Bush > > "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the > will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the > Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." > -- Adolf Hitler > > "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, > or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is > not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable > to the American public." > -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918) > > Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close > friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron... Spike 1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior; Vintage 40 16" rims w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A gForce Radial 225/50ZR16 KDWS skins; surround sound audio-video. "When the time comes to lay down my life for my country, I do not cower from this responsibility. I welcome it." -JFK Inaugural Address |
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Or Clinton's "I never had sex with that woman...."
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 20:59:20 -0400, Hank > wrote: >muffster wrote: > >> has anyone tried installing the turbonator on there mustang and if so what >> were the results? >> http://www.turbonator.com/index.html?id=adWordsMustang >> >> I have a 02 GT and was wondering if this add on might be worth while. > > It would be about as worthwhile as Bush's illegal and >immoral terror attack on Iraq, and the manufacture's >claims of better performance and efficiency are about >as honest as Bush's claims of freedom and democracy. > HTH! > > >- > > > http://www.commondreams.org/ > http://www.truthout.org/ > http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/ > http://thirdworldtraveler.com/ > http://counterpunch.org/ > http://responsiblewealth.org/ > http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/pol/80315675.html > > In September and October 2003, McClellan said he had spoken >directly with Rove about the matter and that "he was not >involved" in leaking Plame's identity to the news media. >McClellan said at the time: "The president knows that Karl >Rove wasn't involved," "It was a ridiculous suggestion" >and "It's not true." > Yet another in the endless stirng of bu$h's lies. > > "They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And > there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to > take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons > who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of > warfare or morality." > -bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq. > http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm > > "God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then > he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did." > -- George W. Bush > > "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the > will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the > Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." > -- Adolf Hitler > > "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, > or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is > not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable > to the American public." > -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918) > > Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close > friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron... Spike 1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior; Vintage 40 16" rims w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A gForce Radial 225/50ZR16 KDWS skins; surround sound audio-video. "When the time comes to lay down my life for my country, I do not cower from this responsibility. I welcome it." -JFK Inaugural Address |
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On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:39:29 -0700, Spike > wrote:
>Or Clinton's "I never had sex with that woman...." > When Clinton Lied, 100,000 people didn't die. >On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 20:59:20 -0400, Hank > >wrote: > >>muffster wrote: >> >>> has anyone tried installing the turbonator on there mustang and if so what >>> were the results? >>> http://www.turbonator.com/index.html?id=adWordsMustang >>> >>> I have a 02 GT and was wondering if this add on might be worth while. >> >> It would be about as worthwhile as Bush's illegal and >>immoral terror attack on Iraq, and the manufacture's >>claims of better performance and efficiency are about >>as honest as Bush's claims of freedom and democracy. >> HTH! >> >> >>- >> >> >> http://www.commondreams.org/ >> http://www.truthout.org/ >> http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/ >> http://thirdworldtraveler.com/ >> http://counterpunch.org/ >> http://responsiblewealth.org/ >> http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/pol/80315675.html >> >> In September and October 2003, McClellan said he had spoken >>directly with Rove about the matter and that "he was not >>involved" in leaking Plame's identity to the news media. >>McClellan said at the time: "The president knows that Karl >>Rove wasn't involved," "It was a ridiculous suggestion" >>and "It's not true." >> Yet another in the endless stirng of bu$h's lies. >> >> "They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And >> there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to >> take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons >> who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of >> warfare or morality." >> -bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq. >> http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm >> >> "God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then >> he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did." >> -- George W. Bush >> >> "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the >> will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the >> Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." >> -- Adolf Hitler >> >> "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, >> or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is >> not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable >> to the American public." >> -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918) >> >> Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close >> friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron... > >Spike >1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok >Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior; Vintage 40 >16" rims w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A gForce Radial >225/50ZR16 KDWS skins; surround sound audio-video. > >"When the time comes to lay down my life for my country, >I do not cower from this responsibility. I welcome it." > -JFK Inaugural Address |
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Ashton Crusher wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:39:29 -0700, Spike > wrote: > > >>Or Clinton's "I never had sex with that woman...." >> > > > When Clinton Lied, 100,000 people didn't die. > C'mon now, you don't think Monica got around *that* much, do you??? > <kook spew removed> -- "Network management is like trying to herd cats." -- Unknown "I wonder how much deeper the ocean would be without sponges?" -- TazAmd - Humor Section Gettingtogather.com |
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Spike wrote:
> My mechanic refused to install it... not install it for free.... and > not install a piece of junk.... but because he was laughing so hard, > as were the rest of the mechanics in the bay, that he was afraid he'd > put it in backwards..... LOL : 0 ) > Ooo.. If you put it in backwards. If the air were spinning counter rotational to the engine. OMG! It might actually IMPLODE!!! -- "Network management is like trying to herd cats." -- Unknown "I wonder how much deeper the ocean would be without sponges?" -- TazAmd - Humor Section Gettingtogather.com |
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On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 22:24:22 -0700, Ashton Crusher >
wrote: >On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:39:29 -0700, Spike > wrote: > >>Or Clinton's "I never had sex with that woman...." >> > >When Clinton Lied, 100,000 people didn't die. > > >> It would be about as worthwhile as Bush's illegal and >>immoral terror attack on Iraq, and the manufacture's >>claims of better performance and efficiency are about >>as honest as Bush's claims of freedom and democracy. >> HTH! The cop in me always screams whenever I hear unsubstantiated claims made; whether by attorneys, or witnesses; to a judge or jury. Claims such as this are submitted by you and others before the public who act as judge and or jury... desiring to influence the verdict; in this case history's verdict. Soooo..... Ah, but the proof is in the "EVIDENCE". Clinton admitted he lied, as you acknowledged. That's evidence of both immoral and illegal wrong-doing. As yet, where is the "PROOF" that Bush did anything immoral or illegal? It's so easy to say things which you can't prove, and which do not need to be proven in order to damage someone's reputation. . Bring me PROOF which can be used to prosecute or impeach and I'll gladly stand with you, but let's not turn into a lynch mob society where we convict without evidence. Let's stick to the "PROVABLE FACTS" and not spread personal views held up as fact. Before making unsubstantiated claims, ask of yourself, if YOU did something you believed was right, morally and legally, and there was no "evidence" of wrong doing on your part, would you want people going around making claims that 100,000 people died because you did something immoral and illegal? Would you enjoy having your family and friends hearing such allegations against you? Your children being taunted in school? IF you just happen to be correct, then every soldier, sailor, and airman involved is also responsible for committing immoral and illegal acts resulting in the deaths of 100,000. So, too, is every Senator and Congressman who supported the President's actions, no matter what they use to justify that support, nor what they tell the voters today. It follows that every citizen who voted those Senators, Congressmen, and the President into office is responsible because.... NO MAN IS AN ISLAND "All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language; and every chapter must be so translated...As therefore the bell that rings to a sermon, calls not upon the preacher only, but upon the congregation to come: so this bell calls us all: but how much more me, who am brought so near the door by this sickness....No man is an island, entire of itself...any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee." John Donne Meditation XVII This famous meditation of Donne's puts forth two essential ideas which are representative of the Renaissance era in which it was written: The idea that people are not isolated from one another, but that mankind is interconnected; and The vivid awareness of mortality that seems a natural outgrowth of a time when death was the constant companion of life. Donne brings these two themes together to affirm that any one man's death diminishes all of mankind, since all mankind is connected; yet that death itself is not so much to be feared as it at first seems. http://isu.indstate.edu/ilnprof/ENG451/ISLAND/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On a lighter note.... "Ask not for whom the bell tolls; and you pay only the direct dial rate." The Power of Positive Pessimism Spike 1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior; Vintage 40 16" rims w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A gForce Radial 225/50ZR16 KDWS skins; surround sound audio-video. "When the time comes to lay down my life for my country, I do not cower from this responsibility. I welcome it." -JFK Inaugural Address |
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On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 22:24:22 -0700, Ashton Crusher >
wrote: >On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:39:29 -0700, Spike > wrote: > >>Or Clinton's "I never had sex with that woman...." >> > >When Clinton Lied, 100,000 people didn't die. You must have missed Clinton's recent press release where he blamed himself for not acting and precipitation the deaths of 800,000 Rwandans. That DID happen. -Rich |
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On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 12:21:57 -0700, Spike > wrote:
>On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 22:24:22 -0700, Ashton Crusher > >wrote: > >>On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:39:29 -0700, Spike > wrote: >> >>>Or Clinton's "I never had sex with that woman...." >>> >> >>When Clinton Lied, 100,000 people didn't die. >> >> >>> It would be about as worthwhile as Bush's illegal and >>>immoral terror attack on Iraq, and the manufacture's >>>claims of better performance and efficiency are about >>>as honest as Bush's claims of freedom and democracy. >>> HTH! >The cop in me always screams whenever I hear unsubstantiated claims >made; whether by attorneys, or witnesses; to a judge or jury. Claims >such as this are submitted by you and others before the public who act >as judge and or jury... desiring to influence the verdict; in this >case history's verdict. Soooo..... > >Ah, but the proof is in the "EVIDENCE". Clinton admitted he lied, as >you acknowledged. That's evidence of both immoral and illegal >wrong-doing. As yet, where is the "PROOF" that Bush did anything >immoral or illegal? It's so easy to say things which you can't prove, >and which do not need to be proven in order to damage someone's >reputation. . > >Bring me PROOF which can be used to prosecute or impeach and I'll >gladly stand with you, but let's not turn into a lynch mob society >where we convict without evidence. Let's stick to the "PROVABLE FACTS" >and not spread personal views held up as fact. > The proof has been all around you for several years. You obviously choose not to see it. >Before making unsubstantiated claims, ask of yourself, if YOU did >something you believed was right, morally and legally, and there was >no "evidence" of wrong doing on your part, would you want people going >around making claims that 100,000 people died because you did >something immoral and illegal? Would you enjoy having your family and >friends hearing such allegations against you? Your children being >taunted in school? > >IF you just happen to be correct, then every soldier, sailor, and >airman involved is also responsible for committing immoral and illegal >acts resulting in the deaths of 100,000. So, too, is every Senator and >Congressman who supported the President's actions, no matter what they >use to justify that support, nor what they tell the voters today. It >follows that every citizen who voted those Senators, Congressmen, and >the President into office is responsible because.... > > NO MAN IS AN ISLAND >"All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, >one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better >language; and every chapter must be so translated...As therefore the >bell that rings to a sermon, calls not upon the preacher only, but >upon the congregation to come: so this bell calls us all: but how much >more me, who am brought so near the door by this sickness....No man is >an island, entire of itself...any man's death diminishes me, because I >am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the >bell tolls; it tolls for thee." > John Donne > Meditation XVII >This famous meditation of Donne's puts forth two essential ideas which >are representative of the Renaissance era in which it was written: > >The idea that people are not isolated from one another, but that >mankind is interconnected; and The vivid awareness of mortality that >seems a natural outgrowth of a time when death was the constant >companion of life. Donne brings these two themes together to affirm >that any one man's death diminishes all of mankind, since all mankind >is connected; yet that death itself is not so much to be feared as it >at first seems. > >http://isu.indstate.edu/ilnprof/ENG451/ISLAND/ > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >On a lighter note.... >"Ask not for whom the bell tolls; and you pay only the direct dial >rate." > The Power of Positive Pessimism >Spike >1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok >Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior; Vintage 40 >16" rims w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A gForce Radial >225/50ZR16 KDWS skins; surround sound audio-video. > >"When the time comes to lay down my life for my country, >I do not cower from this responsibility. I welcome it." > -JFK Inaugural Address |
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On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 22:32:41 -0700, Ashton Crusher >
wrote: >The proof has been all around you for several years. You obviously >choose not to see it. > > Sorry, I must have missed when Bush was tried and convicted for war crimes or impeached based upon the "PROOF" you say exists. ! There is a difference between proof and belief, between evidence and allegation. Again, when you provide proof; good solid factual evidence; I'll stand with you. But, so far there has been zero. Just a lost of allegations and accusations without the substance to back it up. If it was there, I have no doubt his opposition would have run screaming to appoint federal prosecutors. Bet you'd be talking differently if some prosecutor had you over a barrel based upon you kind of proof. Spike 1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior; Vintage 40 16" rims w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A gForce Radial 225/50ZR16 KDWS skins; surround sound audio-video. "When the time comes to lay down my life for my country, I do not cower from this responsibility. I welcome it." -JFK Inaugural Address |
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