Accord Diesel

Matt Ion wrote:
>>>
>> do you think electric cars have no environmental impact too? where
>> does fat or vegetable oil come from? mcdonalds?
>
>
> Why not? Think of how much raw mass there is produced by this
> fast-food-driven continent.

much is already being recycled into other products.

SoCalMike wrote:

> Matt Ion wrote:
>
>>>>
>>> do you think electric cars have no environmental impact too? where
>>> does fat or vegetable oil come from? mcdonalds?
>>
>>
>>
>> Why not? Think of how much raw mass there is produced by this
>> fast-food-driven continent.
>
>
> much is already being recycled into other products.

*sigh* Why is it some people just HAVE to ALWAYS find SOMETHING to argue
with?



---
avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean.
Virus Database (VPS): 0536-1, 09/06/2005
Tested on: 9/6/2005 8:48:30 AM
avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software.
http://www.avast.com

Matt Ion wrote:
> SoCalMike wrote:
>
>> Matt Ion wrote:
>>
>>>>>
>>>> do you think electric cars have no environmental impact too? where
>>>> does fat or vegetable oil come from? mcdonalds?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Why not? Think of how much raw mass there is produced by this
>>> fast-food-driven continent.
>>
>>
>>
>> much is already being recycled into other products.
>
>
> *sigh* Why is it some people just HAVE to ALWAYS find SOMETHING to argue
> with?

don't take it personally, but it's because you're quoting incomplete
data. we can't /all/ run vehicles on veggie oil/old mcdonalds grease
because there's not enough of it and never could be. the only way to
get closer is by biomass which has a much higher conversion rate.

the idealistic dream of veggie powered cars is just that - a dream.
it's as realistic as san francisco public transport that put the slogan
"zero emissions vehicle" on the rear end of their electric busses.
where do they think the electricity comes from?

>
>
>
> ---
> avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean.
> Virus Database (VPS): 0536-1, 09/06/2005
> Tested on: 9/6/2005 8:48:30 AM
> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software.
> http://www.avast.com
>
>
>

jim beam wrote:

> Matt Ion wrote:
>
>> SoCalMike wrote:
>>
>>> Matt Ion wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> do you think electric cars have no environmental impact too? where
>>>>> does fat or vegetable oil come from? mcdonalds?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why not? Think of how much raw mass there is produced by this
>>>> fast-food-driven continent.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> much is already being recycled into other products.
>>
>>
>>
>> *sigh* Why is it some people just HAVE to ALWAYS find SOMETHING to
>> argue with?
>
>
> don't take it personally, but it's because you're quoting incomplete
> data. we can't /all/ run vehicles on veggie oil/old mcdonalds grease
> because there's not enough of it and never could be. the only way to
> get closer is by biomass which has a much higher conversion rate.

I only added to a discussion on the benefits of diesel vehicles, that
biodiesel is a currently-available alternative fuel. I never claimed it
was an end-all, be-all replacement for fossil fuels. Yeesh.

> the idealistic dream of veggie powered cars is just that - a dream. it's
> as realistic as san francisco public transport that put the slogan "zero
> emissions vehicle" on the rear end of their electric busses. where do
> they think the electricity comes from?

Depends on where you live. The vehicles ARE "zero emissions". In my
part of the country, 99.9% of the electricity we use is
hydro-generated... so the supply chain is "zero emissions" as well.




---
avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean.
Virus Database (VPS): 0536-2, 09/07/2005
Tested on: 9/7/2005 10:39:54 PM
avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software.
http://www.avast.com