I just got my G25!

They finally received some stocks in Canada. At least it was cheap: 239$ CAN
which amounts to about 210$ US. Now the biggest problem is that i have to
modify my setup to install the shifter.

Where did you purchase this?
"Bob Loblaw" > wrote in message
...
> They finally received some stocks in Canada. At least it was cheap: 239$
> CAN which amounts to about 210$ US. Now the biggest problem is that i have
> to modify my setup to install the shifter.
>

"Victor Greenwood" > wrote in message
news:3ND9h.1852$p9.1295@edtnps82...
> Where did you purchase this?
> "Bob Loblaw" > wrote in message
> ...
>> They finally received some stocks in Canada. At least it was cheap: 239$
>> CAN which amounts to about 210$ US. Now the biggest problem is that i
>> have to modify my setup to install the shifter.
>>
The prices are starting to go up:
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12660AC1697

I had a Driving Force Pro and i'm a little disappointed in the G25. Compared
to the DFP, the pedals are considerably better. The force feedback on the
wheel also feels better and its sturdiness is just impressive. The paddles
are also a lot better than on the DFP.

The H shifter is noisy and doesn't feel as sturdy as the rest of the unit.
The biggest problem i have with the G25 is actually sofware related. I tried
it with rFactor and GTR2 and realised that the clutch was unnecessary to
shift. It kind of defeats the purpose of having a clutch pedal.

Bob Loblaw wrote:
> "Victor Greenwood" > wrote in message
> news:3ND9h.1852$p9.1295@edtnps82...
>
>>Where did you purchase this?
>>"Bob Loblaw" > wrote in message
.. .
>>
>>>They finally received some stocks in Canada. At least it was cheap: 239$
>>>CAN which amounts to about 210$ US. Now the biggest problem is that i
>>>have to modify my setup to install the shifter.
>>>
>
> The prices are starting to go up:
> http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12660AC1697
>
> I had a Driving Force Pro and i'm a little disappointed in the G25. Compared
> to the DFP, the pedals are considerably better. The force feedback on the
> wheel also feels better and its sturdiness is just impressive. The paddles
> are also a lot better than on the DFP.
>
> The H shifter is noisy and doesn't feel as sturdy as the rest of the unit.
> The biggest problem i have with the G25 is actually sofware related. I tried
> it with rFactor and GTR2 and realised that the clutch was unnecessary to
> shift. It kind of defeats the purpose of having a clutch pedal.
>
>
No it doesn't. The clutch can be used for standing starts and to avoid
stalling the engine in a spin. Also, for a racing gear box, you don't
need the clutch to change gear. So it is realistic.

On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 20:15:16 -0500, "Bob Loblaw" > wrote:

>The H shifter is noisy and doesn't feel as sturdy as the rest of the unit.
>The biggest problem i have with the G25 is actually sofware related. I tried
>it with rFactor and GTR2 and realised that the clutch was unnecessary to
>shift. It kind of defeats the purpose of having a clutch pedal.

Blame rFactor or GTR2 for that. However, if you can change down
mid corner in GTR2 under brakes and down change without blipping
the throttle while using the clutch and without unsettling
the car then you're doing something I can't. The back-end wants
to swap ends with the front when I try it. If you can, then I
suspect you've got auto clutch still enabled.

I hear you with the stick, but you get used to it.

Also give GTL a crack, downchanging mid corner is even worse
without the clutch if you don't blip.

Cheers,
Rod.

"Rod" > wrote in message
news
> On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 20:15:16 -0500, "Bob Loblaw" > wrote:
>
>>The H shifter is noisy and doesn't feel as sturdy as the rest of the unit.
>>The biggest problem i have with the G25 is actually sofware related. I
>>tried
>>it with rFactor and GTR2 and realised that the clutch was unnecessary to
>>shift. It kind of defeats the purpose of having a clutch pedal.
>
> Blame rFactor or GTR2 for that. However, if you can change down
> mid corner in GTR2 under brakes and down change without blipping
> the throttle while using the clutch and without unsettling
> the car then you're doing something I can't. The back-end wants
> to swap ends with the front when I try it. If you can, then I
> suspect you've got auto clutch still enabled.
>
> I hear you with the stick, but you get used to it.
>
> Also give GTL a crack, downchanging mid corner is even worse
> without the clutch if you don't blip.
>
> Cheers,
> Rod.

My instructors have always told me to downshift before turning. Braking and
downshifting is supposed to be done in a straight line (with the exception
of trailbraking).

I have LFS S1, GTL, rFactor and GTR 2. The problem is that i have too much
choice and have to commit to one game. I loved GTL but unfortunately
Starforce screws up my DVD burner. Which is frustrating because i use it to
make backups of the pictures i take with my 8MP Canon 20D. I usually fill up
the 2 Gig memory card and i need the room on my hard drive. Blank DVDs are
very affordable but when i run GTL, i can only produce coasters.

I had to modify my frame to include the shifter unit. I'll probably enjoy it
more now that it is installed properly.

On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 00:11:46 -0500, "Bob Loblaw" > wrote:

>My instructors have always told me to downshift before turning. Braking and
>downshifting is supposed to be done in a straight line (with the exception
>of trailbraking).

Sure, it's supposed to until you want to compete with those
that can effectively do it. If they can get the power on
early as well, you can only hope your car is faster than
them in the straights because it's impossible to outbreak them.

Also accelerating while turning and shifting up will also unsettle
the car in GTR2, causing the back end to get loose. While I might
not engage the clutch in such circumstances, I will lift.

I've been caught out a few times shifting down and not matching
the revs and shifting just a touch too early and spun. Like
I suggested, if this hasn't happened to you yet then you've either
got auto clutch enabled or you're *extremely* careful when you
brake.

Cheers,
Rod.

> I've been caught out a few times shifting down and not matching
> the revs and shifting just a touch too early and spun. Like
> I suggested, if this hasn't happened to you yet then you've either
> got auto clutch enabled or you're *extremely* careful when you
> brake.
>
> Cheers,
> Rod.

The auto clutch was still enabled. Thanks for pointing that out. That
resolves my only criticism with the pedals.

Bob Loblaw wrote:
> > I've been caught out a few times shifting down and not matching
> > the revs and shifting just a touch too early and spun. Like
> > I suggested, if this hasn't happened to you yet then you've either
> > got auto clutch enabled or you're *extremely* careful when you
> > brake.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Rod.
>
> The auto clutch was still enabled. Thanks for pointing that out. That
> resolves my only criticism with the pedals.

the g25 looks real nice, but how hard is the turning ? I broke my wrist
at work a few months back and have little strength in my dominant hand.
Moderate pressure causes pain, I am hoping it will get better, but it
seems little improved since the cast came off 6 months ago. I drive my
ms ff sidewinder always "loose" or free turning, is it possible to
enable a free turning mode with the g25 ?

I agree. The wheel and pedals are pure genious. The shifter, not so much.

We would have been better off with a Momo sequential type built into the
wheel, and the normal number of buttons on the wheel itself.

The centering of the shifter in sequential mode is a big problem. The throw
to engage is like 3/4" forward, 1/4" backward.

My first one was a full inch forward, and about 1/64" backward. It was so
bad, it didn't release the rearward selection half the time when returning
to center, causing me to miss many a downshift and end up in the kitty
litter.

The replacement is useable, but still not centered.

In case you don't know, the shifter does not use switches. It uses pots.

The only reason I don't leave the shifter in the closet is because of the
buttons. Once I figure out a way around that, I will.

I have one other minor gripe. Whoever designed the cable connection scheme
must handle snakes for a living. Only that profession could have prepared
an engineer to create such a stupid design. I have fears the cables aren't
going to last long.

And, as is typical for Logitech, the pedal cable is too short.

-Larry

"Bob Loblaw" > wrote in message
. ..
>
> "Victor Greenwood" > wrote in message
> news:3ND9h.1852$p9.1295@edtnps82...
>> Where did you purchase this?
>> "Bob Loblaw" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> They finally received some stocks in Canada. At least it was cheap: 239$
>>> CAN which amounts to about 210$ US. Now the biggest problem is that i
>>> have to modify my setup to install the shifter.
>>>
> The prices are starting to go up:
> http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12660AC1697
>
> I had a Driving Force Pro and i'm a little disappointed in the G25.
> Compared to the DFP, the pedals are considerably better. The force
> feedback on the wheel also feels better and its sturdiness is just
> impressive. The paddles are also a lot better than on the DFP.
>
> The H shifter is noisy and doesn't feel as sturdy as the rest of the unit.
> The biggest problem i have with the G25 is actually sofware related. I
> tried it with rFactor and GTR2 and realised that the clutch was
> unnecessary to shift. It kind of defeats the purpose of having a clutch
> pedal.
>
>