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Maryland State Emissions test failure-any suggestions?
1986 BMW325e 178,000 miles:
First test: FAILED NOx [actual=3.4829(gpm)cutpoint=2.8000(gpm)]. So I changed oil and oil filter,spark plugs and air filter. Ran a full tank of gas with a bottle of Guaranteed to Pass and put a bottle of Heet in tank before retest with Chevron 87 octane gas. I ran the car for over 1/2 hour before retest to get it hot. Retest results: FAILED NOx [actual dropped to 3.0586(gpm)]AND FAILED HC [actual=2.0497(gpm)cutpoint=1.8000(gpm)] My car does burn and leak oil but it starts right up, idles smoothly and drives great. There is no visable smoke to speak of. My O2 sensor has been replaced and has +/- 45,000 miles on it. My catalytic converter was replaced within the past year, but with an inexpensive universal replacement not with a BMW replacemnt. I've searched these groups for hours and tried to follow the advice gleaned but now my head is spinning. I don't want to spend $$$ to have my engine rebuilt or do other drastic costly measures but I also don't want to pollute the air. BTW 2 years ago when my car was last tested my emission #s were excellent,way under the standards and I only drive +/- 6,000 miles/yr. |
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Have you checked for vacuum leaks and the EGR valve?
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If the cost of repair exceeds a certain amount, you can get a waver. Check
with your local emissions inspection station for more information on the steps you need to take for that. |
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I believe in MD it's only if it's need based...HOWEVER, if you have a
receipt showing a mechanic did $400.01 or more in emissions related work and it still fails, then you can get a waiver. Richard "James C. Reeves" > wrote in message ... > If the cost of repair exceeds a certain amount, you can get a waver. Check > with your local emissions inspection station for more information on the steps > you need to take for that. > > |
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[corrected your units; "gpm" is gallons per minute; emission results are g/mi, grams per mile.] On Wed, 8 Dec 2004, old school bmw owner wrote: > 1986 BMW325e 178,000 miles: > FAILED NOx actual=3.0586 g/mi, cutpoint=2.8000 g/mi > FAILED HC actual=2.0497 g/mi, cutpoint=1.8000 g/mi > My car does burn and leak oil Well, there's your answer. Engines that burn oil produce a great deal of NOx and usually high HC. The emission test cutpoints are set so as to "catch" oil-burning cars like yours and "ground" them until they're repaired. > but it starts right up, idles smoothly and drives great. That's nice, but the state doesn't care. > There is no visable smoke to speak of. Any visible smoke is "to speak of". > My O2 sensor > has been replaced and has +/- 45,000 miles on it. ....and is probably steadily getting coated with the oil your engine burns. > I don't want to spend $$$ to have my engine rebuilt or do other drastic > costly measures Nobody wants to spend $$$, but when a machine is worn out, as yours is, it's time to repair it or get rid of it. The rules apply equally to those who drive Hyundais and those who drive BMWs. > BTW 2 years ago when my car was last tested my emission #s were > excellent,way under the standards and I only drive +/- 6,000 miles/yr. The standards have probably been tightened since that time, and that's also how machines work: Eventually, they pass the critical wear point and can no longer pass emissions. > I don't want to pollute the air Are you sure? You wrote: > Ran a full tank of gas with a bottle of Guaranteed to Pass and put a > bottle of Heet in tank before retest My catalytic converter was replaced > within the past year, but with an inexpensive universal replacement not > with a BMW replacemnt. This sounds more like the behavior of someone trying to cheat past the test with a polluting vehicle than of someone who doesn't want to pollute the air. DS |
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On Wed, 8 Dec 2004, James C. Reeves wrote:
> If the cost of repair exceeds a certain amount, you can get a waver. ....IF you can demonstrate financial hardship, which is going to be rather difficult to do when the vehicle in question is a BMW. |
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"Daniel J. Stern" > writes:
> On Wed, 8 Dec 2004, James C. Reeves wrote: > >> If the cost of repair exceeds a certain amount, you can get a waver. > > ...IF you can demonstrate financial hardship, which is going to be rather > difficult to do when the vehicle in question is a BMW. Oh, come on. The OP's car is a 1986 BMW 325e! They go for less than a grand these days. -- Ignasi. (using SPAM trap e-mail address) |
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I concur with Daniel. Your car has a oil consumption problem and the
failed test is probably doing you a favour. You need to get the problem fixed or your O2 sensor and catalytic converter will be shot before long and your car won't run at all after that. It's not a cosmetic problem. Were your old spark plugs coated with oil? Where is your oil leak? You're right in that a fix could likely involve new valve guides and/or valve stem oil seals which require removing the cylinder head. Unfortunately, while these cars are great to drive, once they reach the age where components normally wear out they are just as costly as other cars to keep running. OTOH, once you fix the worn parts the car may well run great for another 100k. These cars aren't worth much at this point so I think your options are limited. You either fix it yourself or bite the bullet and have a decent garage do it for you. Consider the other alternative of buying a new car or another used car with its own list of repair or maintenance issues. Michael |
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"Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message
.umich.edu... > On Wed, 8 Dec 2004, James C. Reeves wrote: > > > If the cost of repair exceeds a certain amount, you can get a waver. > > ...IF you can demonstrate financial hardship, which is going to be rather > difficult to do when the vehicle in question is a BMW. No, if you can prove that you made an attempt to have the vehicle repaired and the costs are $400 or above than Maryland will issue you a waiver, so I have been told. It's asinine that one would even believe that the emissions test has clean air as its goal instead of generating revenue for the state. It is just more bull**** to fleece the public. Rita |
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On 8 Dec 2004 12:47:20 -0800, "old school bmw owner"
> wrote: >1986 BMW325e 178,000 miles: >First test: FAILED NOx [actual=3.4829(gpm)cutpoint=2.8000(gpm)]. >So I changed oil and oil filter,spark plugs and air filter. Ran a full >tank of gas with a bottle of Guaranteed to Pass and put a bottle of >Heet in tank before retest with Chevron 87 octane gas. I ran the car >for over 1/2 hour before retest to get it hot. > >Retest results: FAILED NOx [actual dropped to 3.0586(gpm)]AND >FAILED HC [actual=2.0497(gpm)cutpoint=1.8000(gpm)] I posted about this a few weeks ago...NOx is reduced by cooling down the engine (which is what coolant does) and also cooling down the combustion process (which is what EGR does). Flush the cooling system with coolant flush and distilled water, clean the EGR system, and if all fails the rhodium catalyst that converts NOx to nitrogen and oxygen in the catalytic converter is probably shot. Plugs, o2 sensor, etc. have little effect on NOx. IMHO NOx also gets worse in colder weather...I'm still working on proving why, it's just a hypothesis right now...my best times for inspection were always when temps were in the 60s or 70s F...winter weather was always a disaster for my emissions. Try checking your O2 sensor to make sure it's still working. Dan |
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