2l Golf Oil usage

"Woodchuck" > wrote in message
...
> You should get your information correct instead of making a general all 2l
> engines comment. It was mainly only the pre 2001 engines with the engine
> code of AEG. 2001 and up engines have a AVH engine code. VWoA will most
> likely not do anything unless the oil usage is more than 1 quart in about
> 1200miles. As for the cause, I been told it's from the rings not seating
> into the bores because they were too hard of ring. The re-ring jobs I have
> done show no signs that the rings were worn out! Also been told it shows up
> more on engines that the owner changes the oil way before the first 5000mile
> oil change. Yes we have done a few re-ring jobs but overall with as many
> VW's as we service it's very few. All engines use oil... some more and some
> less, but VW's 2l seems to use the most and the 1.8T uses the least. Just
> your friendly stealr tech's opinion.
>
>
>
As I mentioned here before, our 02 Jetta has used more oil than another vehicle
(over 40) I have owned...including some with ragged out old GM 350's with over
200,000 miles on the clock. I am bringing it in to dealer on Thursday, as in the
past month, rate of oil usage has jumped dramatically...was 1/2 quart per 1000
miles and is now about 1 quart per 1000 miles. I followed all the
recommendations regarding oil changes. While not really happy with VW's report
it was "normal", I was resigned to the fact that it was just something to live
with, but now I'm a bit worried by the recent jump. Car is nearing end of
powertrain warranty...52000miles, so I am real worried that if this pattern
continues, I'll be caught paying for a new engine.

--
Tony Bad

02 Jetta Wagon
01 Eurovan MV
91 Jetta 1.6 Diesel
86 Jetta
79 Rabbit 1.5 Diesel (semi-retired for now)
Schwinn Continental 10 Speed
Radio Flyer Pedal Car (my daughter made me add this)

"Simplstupd" > wrote in message
...
> 2 comments: on my 96 Golf ABA 2.0 which I bought new it never used any oil
> until I gave it to a friend at 35k miles.
>
> How hard is it to check the oil 2x/month and add if necessary? Is oil really
> that expensive? I mean c'mon folks! Find something else to complain about!

Not the point.

I know I can check the oil, but it is a sign that something wasn't put together
right. How hard was it to have your window regulators replaced? How hard was it
to have your coils replaced? None of these things are "hard" to address, the
issue is that they shouldn't NEED to be addressed.

--
Tony Bad

02 Jetta Wagon
01 Eurovan MV
91 Jetta 1.6 Diesel
86 Jetta
79 Rabbit 1.5 Diesel (semi-retired for now)
Schwinn Continental 10 Speed
Radio Flyer Pedal Car (my daughter made me add this)

"Simplstupd" > wrote in message
...
> 2 comments: on my 96 Golf ABA 2.0 which I bought new it never used any oil
> until I gave it to a friend at 35k miles.
>
> How hard is it to check the oil 2x/month and add if necessary? Is oil really
> that expensive? I mean c'mon folks! Find something else to complain about!

Not the point.

I know I can check the oil, but it is a sign that something wasn't put together
right. How hard was it to have your window regulators replaced? How hard was it
to have your coils replaced? None of these things are "hard" to address, the
issue is that they shouldn't NEED to be addressed.

--
Tony Bad

02 Jetta Wagon
01 Eurovan MV
91 Jetta 1.6 Diesel
86 Jetta
79 Rabbit 1.5 Diesel (semi-retired for now)
Schwinn Continental 10 Speed
Radio Flyer Pedal Car (my daughter made me add this)

"marc o" > wrote in message
...
> I have to agree with Woodchuck on this one except the limit is 1qt per 1000
> miles.the problem is very regional, or at least thats how the warranty shows
> it.some areas of the country haven't had any complaints.some areas have
> lots.may also be techs just upselling warrnty work, who knows?2 pieces of
> advise though,
> 1st, get you story straight, you are obviously basing your reply on opinions
> or hatred of the product.
> 2nd, learn to spell.
>

I'm with you on the spelling complaint (p.s - you spelled warranty wrong (;^D)),
but I agree with this poster that it isn't normal. I don't hate VW's, but if VW
said they have the same issue with a lot of 2.0 liter engines, I'd accept it,
....but telling me a new car burning 3/4 quart of oil every thousand miles is
"normal" is bull****. It is corporate speak for covering one's ass, something VW
has gotten good at in recent years...somewhat out of necessity...their ass has
needed a lot of covering!
--
Tony Bad

02 Jetta Wagon
01 Eurovan MV
91 Jetta 1.6 Diesel
86 Jetta
79 Rabbit 1.5 Diesel (semi-retired for now)
Schwinn Continental 10 Speed
Radio Flyer Pedal Car (my daughter made me add this)

"marc o" > wrote in message
...
> I have to agree with Woodchuck on this one except the limit is 1qt per 1000
> miles.the problem is very regional, or at least thats how the warranty shows
> it.some areas of the country haven't had any complaints.some areas have
> lots.may also be techs just upselling warrnty work, who knows?2 pieces of
> advise though,
> 1st, get you story straight, you are obviously basing your reply on opinions
> or hatred of the product.
> 2nd, learn to spell.
>

I'm with you on the spelling complaint (p.s - you spelled warranty wrong (;^D)),
but I agree with this poster that it isn't normal. I don't hate VW's, but if VW
said they have the same issue with a lot of 2.0 liter engines, I'd accept it,
....but telling me a new car burning 3/4 quart of oil every thousand miles is
"normal" is bull****. It is corporate speak for covering one's ass, something VW
has gotten good at in recent years...somewhat out of necessity...their ass has
needed a lot of covering!
--
Tony Bad

02 Jetta Wagon
01 Eurovan MV
91 Jetta 1.6 Diesel
86 Jetta
79 Rabbit 1.5 Diesel (semi-retired for now)
Schwinn Continental 10 Speed
Radio Flyer Pedal Car (my daughter made me add this)

>Not the point.
>
>I know I can check the oil, but it is a sign that something wasn't put
>together
>right. How hard was it to have your window regulators replaced? How hard was
>it
>to have your coils replaced?

Replacing Window regulators and coils are in an entirely different ball game
than checking your oil.

If something was not put together correctly you would have major engine
failure. You would have loud noises and you would have smoke out the exhaust.

Why not revert back to the old trick of a wet and dry compression test to find
out if the rings are at fault.

If I owned a 2004 VW and it used a qt every 1000 mi. I would not be happy about
it but at the same time I wouldn't lose a wink of sleep over adding a $1.89/qt
of Castrol.

YMMV
Peace
Paul
'89 Jetta

>Not the point.
>
>I know I can check the oil, but it is a sign that something wasn't put
>together
>right. How hard was it to have your window regulators replaced? How hard was
>it
>to have your coils replaced?

Replacing Window regulators and coils are in an entirely different ball game
than checking your oil.

If something was not put together correctly you would have major engine
failure. You would have loud noises and you would have smoke out the exhaust.

Why not revert back to the old trick of a wet and dry compression test to find
out if the rings are at fault.

If I owned a 2004 VW and it used a qt every 1000 mi. I would not be happy about
it but at the same time I wouldn't lose a wink of sleep over adding a $1.89/qt
of Castrol.

YMMV
Peace
Paul
'89 Jetta

"Simplstupd" > wrote in message
...
> >Not the point.
> >
> >I know I can check the oil, but it is a sign that something wasn't put
> >together
> >right. How hard was it to have your window regulators replaced? How hard was
> >it
> >to have your coils replaced?
>
> Replacing Window regulators and coils are in an entirely different ball game
> than checking your oil.
>
> If something was not put together correctly you would have major engine
> failure. You would have loud noises and you would have smoke out the exhaust.
>
> Why not revert back to the old trick of a wet and dry compression test to find
> out if the rings are at fault.
>
> If I owned a 2004 VW and it used a qt every 1000 mi. I would not be happy
about
> it but at the same time I wouldn't lose a wink of sleep over adding a $1.89/qt
> of Castrol.
>
> YMMV
> Peace
> Paul
> '89 Jetta

I know they are different, but none of them are things someone who spends
$20,000 on a car should have to deal with...they are all a pain in the ass. I
take the car on long trips frequently, and having to check the oil mid-trip is
not something I expected. I am not sure why this is happening, but despite what
you say, something was not put together right.

I haven't lost sleep over it, but not happy about it...and I'm disappointed at
the way my dealer and VW addressed it when I brought it to their attention when
the car was almost new. I am wondering what they will have to say later this
week because the oil consumption is worsening. I have never had to add a bit of
oil between changes in my 01 Eurovan, so telling me a quart every 1000 miles is
"normal for modern engines" is just a stupid thing for VW to tell people.

"Simplstupd" > wrote in message
...
> >Not the point.
> >
> >I know I can check the oil, but it is a sign that something wasn't put
> >together
> >right. How hard was it to have your window regulators replaced? How hard was
> >it
> >to have your coils replaced?
>
> Replacing Window regulators and coils are in an entirely different ball game
> than checking your oil.
>
> If something was not put together correctly you would have major engine
> failure. You would have loud noises and you would have smoke out the exhaust.
>
> Why not revert back to the old trick of a wet and dry compression test to find
> out if the rings are at fault.
>
> If I owned a 2004 VW and it used a qt every 1000 mi. I would not be happy
about
> it but at the same time I wouldn't lose a wink of sleep over adding a $1.89/qt
> of Castrol.
>
> YMMV
> Peace
> Paul
> '89 Jetta

I know they are different, but none of them are things someone who spends
$20,000 on a car should have to deal with...they are all a pain in the ass. I
take the car on long trips frequently, and having to check the oil mid-trip is
not something I expected. I am not sure why this is happening, but despite what
you say, something was not put together right.

I haven't lost sleep over it, but not happy about it...and I'm disappointed at
the way my dealer and VW addressed it when I brought it to their attention when
the car was almost new. I am wondering what they will have to say later this
week because the oil consumption is worsening. I have never had to add a bit of
oil between changes in my 01 Eurovan, so telling me a quart every 1000 miles is
"normal for modern engines" is just a stupid thing for VW to tell people.

I do agree VW did drop the ball on coils and window regulators by not
addressing the issue when they saw warranty claims went trough the roof on
them. But then again once the supplier made several 100,000 or more on cars
it's too late to do anything about the problem other than just fix them all.
Also there was a period for VW to figure why the parts failed and have the
supplier redesign the parts for replacement. In some respect VW is no
different than Ford, GM, Chrysler, etc for having recalls. I do thing VW has
less than the others. It's sure great to know if you own a Dodge truck your
wheels may fall off due to faulty ball joints!


"Tony Bad" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Simplstupd" > wrote in message
> ...
>> 2 comments: on my 96 Golf ABA 2.0 which I bought new it never used any
>> oil
>> until I gave it to a friend at 35k miles.
>>
>> How hard is it to check the oil 2x/month and add if necessary? Is oil
>> really
>> that expensive? I mean c'mon folks! Find something else to complain
>> about!
>
> Not the point.
>
> I know I can check the oil, but it is a sign that something wasn't put
> together
> right. How hard was it to have your window regulators replaced? How hard
> was it
> to have your coils replaced? None of these things are "hard" to address,
> the
> issue is that they shouldn't NEED to be addressed.
>
> --
> Tony Bad
>
> 02 Jetta Wagon
> 01 Eurovan MV
> 91 Jetta 1.6 Diesel
> 86 Jetta
> 79 Rabbit 1.5 Diesel (semi-retired for now)
> Schwinn Continental 10 Speed
> Radio Flyer Pedal Car (my daughter made me add this)
>
>