OK with Grand Vitara or RAV4 ?

I've been driving Opel Astra for 12 years, Ford Focus for 2 years, and
now i want something different... My offroad needs are minimal, I'm
mostly gonna need the car for town driving, but as i've just
explained, i'm kinda sick of the 'family' cars, and need something
that feels 'different'. I'm not a speed freak either.

So I'm seriously considering getting a 4x4 vehicle like 3d Grand
Vitara (1.6, ~22,000 euro) or 3d RAV4 (2.0, 32,000 euro). Besides the
1.6 - 2.0 difference, i know the RAV4 has a lot more in the basic
package (ABS, 8 airbargs, etc...)

Will the Grand Vitara be a good choice ? Or is it worth it to go for
the RAV4?

Thanks in advance.

"Aristotle" > wrote in message
m...
> I've been driving Opel Astra for 12 years, Ford Focus for 2 years, and
> now i want something different... My offroad needs are minimal, I'm
> mostly gonna need the car for town driving, but as i've just
> explained, i'm kinda sick of the 'family' cars, and need something
> that feels 'different'. I'm not a speed freak either.
>
> So I'm seriously considering getting a 4x4 vehicle like 3d Grand
> Vitara (1.6, ~22,000 euro) or 3d RAV4 (2.0, 32,000 euro). Besides the
> 1.6 - 2.0 difference, i know the RAV4 has a lot more in the basic
> package (ABS, 8 airbargs, etc...)
>
> Will the Grand Vitara be a good choice ? Or is it worth it to go for
> the RAV4?
>
> Thanks in advance.

I own a 2002 Honda CR-V. This in Canada, but we have more or less the same
vehicles here. The main difference is that both the CR-V and the Rav4 get a
2.4l engines here.
Although the prices are comparable (in Canadian $):
CR-V 27000 - 32500
Rav4 24485 - 33550
Grand Vitara 24995 - 28595 (starting at 21000 for Vitara)
Suzuki is not considered to be in the same league that Toyota and Honda, it
is considered here as a discount Japanese brand.
You can clearly see this with the prices you're giving, there is a big
difference. It can be explained but a much better quality and reliability
record of Toyotas in general. I would never even consider buying a Suzuki
as, for me, they are comparable to Hyundai or Kia.
Now, the reason for which I bought the CR-Vis because it gas a sportier
engine and more cargo room than Rav4.

"Aristotle" > wrote in message
m...
> I've been driving Opel Astra for 12 years, Ford Focus for 2 years, and
> now i want something different... My offroad needs are minimal, I'm
> mostly gonna need the car for town driving, but as i've just
> explained, i'm kinda sick of the 'family' cars, and need something
> that feels 'different'. I'm not a speed freak either.
>
> So I'm seriously considering getting a 4x4 vehicle like 3d Grand
> Vitara (1.6, ~22,000 euro) or 3d RAV4 (2.0, 32,000 euro). Besides the
> 1.6 - 2.0 difference, i know the RAV4 has a lot more in the basic
> package (ABS, 8 airbargs, etc...)
>
> Will the Grand Vitara be a good choice ? Or is it worth it to go for
> the RAV4?
>
> Thanks in advance.

I own a 2002 Honda CR-V. This in Canada, but we have more or less the same
vehicles here. The main difference is that both the CR-V and the Rav4 get a
2.4l engines here.
Although the prices are comparable (in Canadian $):
CR-V 27000 - 32500
Rav4 24485 - 33550
Grand Vitara 24995 - 28595 (starting at 21000 for Vitara)
Suzuki is not considered to be in the same league that Toyota and Honda, it
is considered here as a discount Japanese brand.
You can clearly see this with the prices you're giving, there is a big
difference. It can be explained but a much better quality and reliability
record of Toyotas in general. I would never even consider buying a Suzuki
as, for me, they are comparable to Hyundai or Kia.
Now, the reason for which I bought the CR-Vis because it gas a sportier
engine and more cargo room than Rav4.

"Aristotle" > wrote in message
m...
> I've been driving Opel Astra for 12 years, Ford Focus for 2 years, and
> now i want something different... My offroad needs are minimal, I'm
> mostly gonna need the car for town driving, but as i've just
> explained, i'm kinda sick of the 'family' cars, and need something
> that feels 'different'. I'm not a speed freak either.
>
> So I'm seriously considering getting a 4x4 vehicle like 3d Grand
> Vitara (1.6, ~22,000 euro) or 3d RAV4 (2.0, 32,000 euro). Besides the
> 1.6 - 2.0 difference, i know the RAV4 has a lot more in the basic
> package (ABS, 8 airbargs, etc...)
>
> Will the Grand Vitara be a good choice ? Or is it worth it to go for
> the RAV4?
>
> Thanks in advance.

32k Euro for a RAV 4? HOLY ****! 32,000 euro is 40,000 US dollars. For that,
you could buy a Land Cruiser!

RAV4s (with the 6 banger) go for $25,000 and that is fully loaded!! You can
get a 4 banger one for $19,000

Are cars taxed that much? How can common folk take that kind of taxation?

"Aristotle" > wrote in message
m...
> I've been driving Opel Astra for 12 years, Ford Focus for 2 years, and
> now i want something different... My offroad needs are minimal, I'm
> mostly gonna need the car for town driving, but as i've just
> explained, i'm kinda sick of the 'family' cars, and need something
> that feels 'different'. I'm not a speed freak either.
>
> So I'm seriously considering getting a 4x4 vehicle like 3d Grand
> Vitara (1.6, ~22,000 euro) or 3d RAV4 (2.0, 32,000 euro). Besides the
> 1.6 - 2.0 difference, i know the RAV4 has a lot more in the basic
> package (ABS, 8 airbargs, etc...)
>
> Will the Grand Vitara be a good choice ? Or is it worth it to go for
> the RAV4?
>
> Thanks in advance.

32k Euro for a RAV 4? HOLY ****! 32,000 euro is 40,000 US dollars. For that,
you could buy a Land Cruiser!

RAV4s (with the 6 banger) go for $25,000 and that is fully loaded!! You can
get a 4 banger one for $19,000

Are cars taxed that much? How can common folk take that kind of taxation?

"Dan J. S." > wrote in message ...
>
>
> RAV4s (with the 6 banger) go for $25,000 and that is fully loaded!! You can
> get a 4 banger one for $19,000

In the US, I think RAV4s only come with a 2.4l 4-cylinder engine. Never heard of
one with a 6.

"Dan J. S." > wrote in message ...
>
>
> RAV4s (with the 6 banger) go for $25,000 and that is fully loaded!! You can
> get a 4 banger one for $19,000

In the US, I think RAV4s only come with a 2.4l 4-cylinder engine. Never heard of
one with a 6.

"Paul Bielec" > wrote in message >...
> "Aristotle" > wrote in message
> m...
> > I've been driving Opel Astra for 12 years, Ford Focus for 2 years, and
> > now i want something different... My offroad needs are minimal, I'm
> > mostly gonna need the car for town driving, but as i've just
> > explained, i'm kinda sick of the 'family' cars, and need something
> > that feels 'different'. I'm not a speed freak either.
> >
> > So I'm seriously considering getting a 4x4 vehicle like 3d Grand
> > Vitara (1.6, ~22,000 euro) or 3d RAV4 (2.0, 32,000 euro). Besides the
> > 1.6 - 2.0 difference, i know the RAV4 has a lot more in the basic
> > package (ABS, 8 airbargs, etc...)
> >
> > Will the Grand Vitara be a good choice ? Or is it worth it to go for
> > the RAV4?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
>
> I own a 2002 Honda CR-V. This in Canada, but we have more or less the same
> vehicles here. The main difference is that both the CR-V and the Rav4 get a
> 2.4l engines here.
> Although the prices are comparable (in Canadian $):
> CR-V 27000 - 32500
> Rav4 24485 - 33550
> Grand Vitara 24995 - 28595 (starting at 21000 for Vitara)
> Suzuki is not considered to be in the same league that Toyota and Honda, it
> is considered here as a discount Japanese brand.
Dafinitly it is different leauge. RAV4 and CR-v are cars for city, GV
is typical off roader build on frame with T-case - low-ratio, Part
time 4WD (manual off course) , dependent back axle (inflexible). so
this car is not as comfortble as RAC or CRV, but is much beter in real
off road condition.
There is no central diff so 4WD cannont by used on asphfalt or solid
roads even during rain.
CR-V has VERY POOR 4WD, if it doesn't metter you can take it.
When I see you expiriences I advice you RAV4 it's the best chooise if
you ocasionaly only go off road.

reg
Y
[...]

"Paul Bielec" > wrote in message >...
> "Aristotle" > wrote in message
> m...
> > I've been driving Opel Astra for 12 years, Ford Focus for 2 years, and
> > now i want something different... My offroad needs are minimal, I'm
> > mostly gonna need the car for town driving, but as i've just
> > explained, i'm kinda sick of the 'family' cars, and need something
> > that feels 'different'. I'm not a speed freak either.
> >
> > So I'm seriously considering getting a 4x4 vehicle like 3d Grand
> > Vitara (1.6, ~22,000 euro) or 3d RAV4 (2.0, 32,000 euro). Besides the
> > 1.6 - 2.0 difference, i know the RAV4 has a lot more in the basic
> > package (ABS, 8 airbargs, etc...)
> >
> > Will the Grand Vitara be a good choice ? Or is it worth it to go for
> > the RAV4?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
>
> I own a 2002 Honda CR-V. This in Canada, but we have more or less the same
> vehicles here. The main difference is that both the CR-V and the Rav4 get a
> 2.4l engines here.
> Although the prices are comparable (in Canadian $):
> CR-V 27000 - 32500
> Rav4 24485 - 33550
> Grand Vitara 24995 - 28595 (starting at 21000 for Vitara)
> Suzuki is not considered to be in the same league that Toyota and Honda, it
> is considered here as a discount Japanese brand.
Dafinitly it is different leauge. RAV4 and CR-v are cars for city, GV
is typical off roader build on frame with T-case - low-ratio, Part
time 4WD (manual off course) , dependent back axle (inflexible). so
this car is not as comfortble as RAC or CRV, but is much beter in real
off road condition.
There is no central diff so 4WD cannont by used on asphfalt or solid
roads even during rain.
CR-V has VERY POOR 4WD, if it doesn't metter you can take it.
When I see you expiriences I advice you RAV4 it's the best chooise if
you ocasionaly only go off road.

reg
Y
[...]

"David" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Dan J. S." > wrote in message
...
> >
> >
> > RAV4s (with the 6 banger) go for $25,000 and that is fully loaded!! You
can
> > get a 4 banger one for $19,000
>
> In the US, I think RAV4s only come with a 2.4l 4-cylinder engine. Never
heard of
> one with a 6.
>
>

You are correct. My mistake. The $25,000 figure was a fully loaded RAV4,
with every possible options.