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Cadillac runaway acceleration
On 04/21/2015 04:20 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 04/21/2015 03:18 PM, Bill Vanek wrote: >> On Tue, 21 Apr 2015 14:37:57 -0700, The Real Bev >> > wrote: >> >>>Two data points: >>> >>>(1) On the freeway, at roughly 55 mph, I gunned the engine. Passenger >>>reported it went up to 3K before I backed off, at which point it dropped >>>normally. Just a test... >>> >>>(2) Leaving a parking lot, with my foot on the brake, the involuntary >>>acceleration started. I immediately shifted to neutral and watched the >>>rpm rise to 2700 before I tapped the accelerator, bringing it back to >>>normal. >> >> 2700 is about the limit of the ISC motor. The contact switches in >> those can go bad, and cause that (it doesn't know it's in contact with >> the throttle lever), or the ECM. I would think that if it was the ECM, >> it would happen more often, but the tap test might help, too. > > *I* backed off; the rpm was still rising in both cases. > >> Regarding the ISC, the plunger is spring loaded, and you can feel the >> contact switch with slight pressure - it will move very slightly in >> and out. That switch could be bad, but another cause is weak throttle >> return springs that can't push the plunger in enough to close the >> contacts, or a sticking throttle. In fact, either of those two >> problems can cause what might feel like unintended acceleration. > > Not "feel like." IS! > >> If this happens again, you can always put it in park, open the hood, >> and look to see if the ISC is fully extended, holding the throttle >> open. If it is, push the plunger in, and if it retracts then, it's >> almost for sure a bad ISC motor, unless you can see that the throttle >> lever is clearly not pushing against that plunger. If that's the case, >> it's either the springs, or a binding throttle shaft, or throttle >> plates. > > ...for extremely rare values of 'always'. > > Next week I go back to the mech with a lot of questions... The bad news, which was ameliorated before by replacing the return spring with a heavier one: bad bushings in the throttle body, allowing sticking, slop, etc. No replacement possible, unless maybe from a wreck. The AC is shot, along with the shocks. The front tires are 12 years old. The headliner is held up with long ball-headed pins to keep it from flapping. The driver-side window will only go down 6" or so. Lots of plastic bits are just broken. I truly wish my mom had asked us before buying this POS. A "luxury" car with 85,000 miles on the clock should NOT need this much crap in addition to the crap it's already demanded. -- Cheers, Bev You know it's time to clean the refrigerator when something closes the door from the inside. |
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