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5w-30 or 10W-60 in an M54 @ 140 000 km now ?
frischmoutt > wrote:
> >Reading your reply, I just realized my mistake. It was 5W-40 until mid-2009 >then it has been replaced by 5W-30. If that is the case then you may encounter higher oil consumption at higher temperatures but not lower ones. You may also want to just do a basic check on engine seals too, if you are leaking that much oil. If you have valve guide seals or VANOS seals going bad, they will just get worse. If you have enough oil consumption that your plugs are fouling, it's probably something you want to check before it gets worse. >My first attempts to find the Castrol not being successful, my idea was to >stick with BMW homologated oils. Hence my question. The issues in the US are all different than they are out there. Here, most of the Castrol Syntec oils are different (and cheaper) formulations that can't be sold as synthetic in Europe. The _exception_ is the 10W-40 which does actually meet current BMW standards. So here we have the opposite issue, with people substituting the 10W40 for whatever was originally specified. Call your local Castrol automotive rep at 0 33 (0) 134 227 600 and ask them where you can get the stuff in your town. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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5w-30 or 10W-60 in an M54 @ 140 000 km now ?
"Scott Dorsey" > a écrit dans le message de news: ... > frischmoutt > wrote: > > > >Reading your reply, I just realized my mistake. It was 5W-40 until mid-2009 > >then it has been replaced by 5W-30. > > If that is the case then you may encounter higher oil consumption at higher > temperatures but not lower ones. > > You may also want to just do a basic check on engine seals too, if you > are leaking that much oil. If you have valve guide seals or VANOS seals > going bad, they will just get worse. If you have enough oil consumption > that your plugs are fouling, it's probably something you want to check > before it gets worse. > > >My first attempts to find the Castrol not being successful, my idea was to > >stick with BMW homologated oils. Hence my question. > > The issues in the US are all different than they are out there. Here, > most of the Castrol Syntec oils are different (and cheaper) formulations > that can't be sold as synthetic in Europe. The _exception_ is the 10W-40 > which does actually meet current BMW standards. So here we have the opposite > issue, with people substituting the 10W40 for whatever was originally > specified. > > Call your local Castrol automotive rep at 0 33 (0) 134 227 600 and ask > them where you can get the stuff in your town. > --scott > > -- > "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." First, thanks a lot to all who replied. About the leaks, I'd easily agree with piston rings or valve seals going bad but I barely understand how vanos seals, except external oil leak, which is not the case, might be considered. May you provide a little bit more information ? Thanks for the phone number. Regards |
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"Scott Dorsey" > a écrit dans le message de news: ... > frischmoutt > wrote: > > > >Reading your reply, I just realized my mistake. It was 5W-40 until mid-2009 > >then it has been replaced by 5W-30. > > If that is the case then you may encounter higher oil consumption at higher > temperatures but not lower ones. > > You may also want to just do a basic check on engine seals too, if you > are leaking that much oil. If you have valve guide seals or VANOS seals > going bad, they will just get worse. If you have enough oil consumption > that your plugs are fouling, it's probably something you want to check > before it gets worse. > > >My first attempts to find the Castrol not being successful, my idea was to > >stick with BMW homologated oils. Hence my question. > > The issues in the US are all different than they are out there. Here, > most of the Castrol Syntec oils are different (and cheaper) formulations > that can't be sold as synthetic in Europe. The _exception_ is the 10W-40 > which does actually meet current BMW standards. So here we have the opposite > issue, with people substituting the 10W40 for whatever was originally > specified. > > Call your local Castrol automotive rep at 0 33 (0) 134 227 600 and ask > them where you can get the stuff in your town. > --scott > > -- > "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." First, thanks a lot to all who replied. About the leaks, I'd easily agree with piston rings or valve seals going bad but I barely understand how vanos seals, except external oil leak, which is not the case, might be considered. May you provide a little bit more information ? Thanks for the phone number. Regards |
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5w-30 or 10W-60 in an M54 @ 140 000 km now ?
"Scott Dorsey" wrote > The issues in the US are all different than they are out there. Here, > most of the Castrol Syntec oils are different (and cheaper) > formulations > that can't be sold as synthetic in Europe. The _exception_ is the > 10W-40 > which does actually meet current BMW standards. So here we have the > opposite > issue, with people substituting the 10W40 for whatever was originally > specified. Castrol Syntec 10w-40 in the US does not carry any BMW certifications, although it does carry ACEA A3 rating, on which the BMW spec is loosely based. Castrol Syntec 5w-40 carries BMW LL-98 spec. Castroly Syntec 0w-30 carries BMW LL-01 spec. Syntec 0w-30 is actually made in Germany and is the equivalent of the European Edge 0w-30, which means it is a different (better) formulation than all the other Syntec grades. Pete |
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5w-30 or 10W-60 in an M54 @ 140 000 km now ?
"Scott Dorsey" wrote > The issues in the US are all different than they are out there. Here, > most of the Castrol Syntec oils are different (and cheaper) > formulations > that can't be sold as synthetic in Europe. The _exception_ is the > 10W-40 > which does actually meet current BMW standards. So here we have the > opposite > issue, with people substituting the 10W40 for whatever was originally > specified. Castrol Syntec 10w-40 in the US does not carry any BMW certifications, although it does carry ACEA A3 rating, on which the BMW spec is loosely based. Castrol Syntec 5w-40 carries BMW LL-98 spec. Castroly Syntec 0w-30 carries BMW LL-01 spec. Syntec 0w-30 is actually made in Germany and is the equivalent of the European Edge 0w-30, which means it is a different (better) formulation than all the other Syntec grades. Pete |
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5w-30 or 10W-60 in an M54 @ 140 000 km now ?
Pete > wrote:
>"Scott Dorsey" wrote >> The issues in the US are all different than they are out there. Here, >> most of the Castrol Syntec oils are different (and cheaper) >> formulations >> that can't be sold as synthetic in Europe. The _exception_ is the >> 10W-40 >> which does actually meet current BMW standards. So here we have the >> opposite >> issue, with people substituting the 10W40 for whatever was originally >> specified. > >Castrol Syntec 10w-40 in the US does not carry any BMW certifications, >although it does carry ACEA A3 rating, on which the BMW spec is loosely >based. > >Castrol Syntec 5w-40 carries BMW LL-98 spec. You are correct. Sorry, my typo. >Castroly Syntec 0w-30 carries BMW LL-01 spec. Syntec 0w-30 is actually >made in Germany and is the equivalent of the European Edge 0w-30, which >means it is a different (better) formulation than all the other Syntec >grades. Hmm... my FLAPS doesn't even have that stuff in their book. Is it available from the US distributors? --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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5w-30 or 10W-60 in an M54 @ 140 000 km now ?
Pete > wrote:
>"Scott Dorsey" wrote >> The issues in the US are all different than they are out there. Here, >> most of the Castrol Syntec oils are different (and cheaper) >> formulations >> that can't be sold as synthetic in Europe. The _exception_ is the >> 10W-40 >> which does actually meet current BMW standards. So here we have the >> opposite >> issue, with people substituting the 10W40 for whatever was originally >> specified. > >Castrol Syntec 10w-40 in the US does not carry any BMW certifications, >although it does carry ACEA A3 rating, on which the BMW spec is loosely >based. > >Castrol Syntec 5w-40 carries BMW LL-98 spec. You are correct. Sorry, my typo. >Castroly Syntec 0w-30 carries BMW LL-01 spec. Syntec 0w-30 is actually >made in Germany and is the equivalent of the European Edge 0w-30, which >means it is a different (better) formulation than all the other Syntec >grades. Hmm... my FLAPS doesn't even have that stuff in their book. Is it available from the US distributors? --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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5w-30 or 10W-60 in an M54 @ 140 000 km now ?
Hello Pete, Floyd, Scott, BFD853,
I throughly read all the information that you guys provided the past days and followed your recommendations. I read about the breather valve on a forum (I think that it's the same as you're speaking about), it's connected to the base of the oil gauge tube. The guy said that he replaced it (and a procedure is provided) withourt any major improvement. Of course it's not a reference ! For the moment I didn't consider it since the oil consumption increase coincidates with the new oil service made with 5W-30 and the work needing to be performed is rather consequent. I'll do it in a second attempt if the oil consumption doesn't get back within the rails. I've numerous figures to compare to because I'm a kind of paranoid, monitoring oil consumption since 0 km. Concerning the oil, I definately abandoned the idea to use 10W-60. I did a search on google and found several possibilities for 0W-40 & 5W-40.. Considering some facts, and as already pointed out in a previous message you sent, I'm wondering if LL-04 is really necessary: The car has been built in Aug. 2001, it's not a diesel, in consequence, I may assume that LL-01 grade could be used, although today BMW specifies LL-04. LL-04 has been developped for diesels engines and may also be used in gas engines. LL-01 satisfies current BMW's needs. So, the reply looks to be "No". OTOH, in 2007/2008 the BMW dealer even put 5W-40 Labo Carat and in 2008/2009, 5W-40 Castrol TXT Softec that both were LL98 specified ! Mobil-1 0W-40 looks to be a good deal, however my fear concerns the hydraulic tappets that might get noisy until the engine is warm enough. For an analog reason (clearances due to wearing) I also fear a loss of oil pressure in cold. => Any advise please ? I had this issue with my old E30 (180000 km), I tried all sorts of oils/viscosities and did not manage to cure it. Not worth to replace the tappets, I left them clicking until I sold it. For Floyd's information, about the LL-04 oil in the US, I read that it has some bad reaction with the ethanol and may causes problems. For this reason BMW wouldn't recommend it outside Europe http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1422995 Best regards |
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5w-30 or 10W-60 in an M54 @ 140 000 km now ?
Hello Pete, Floyd, Scott, BFD853,
I throughly read all the information that you guys provided the past days and followed your recommendations. I read about the breather valve on a forum (I think that it's the same as you're speaking about), it's connected to the base of the oil gauge tube. The guy said that he replaced it (and a procedure is provided) withourt any major improvement. Of course it's not a reference ! For the moment I didn't consider it since the oil consumption increase coincidates with the new oil service made with 5W-30 and the work needing to be performed is rather consequent. I'll do it in a second attempt if the oil consumption doesn't get back within the rails. I've numerous figures to compare to because I'm a kind of paranoid, monitoring oil consumption since 0 km. Concerning the oil, I definately abandoned the idea to use 10W-60. I did a search on google and found several possibilities for 0W-40 & 5W-40.. Considering some facts, and as already pointed out in a previous message you sent, I'm wondering if LL-04 is really necessary: The car has been built in Aug. 2001, it's not a diesel, in consequence, I may assume that LL-01 grade could be used, although today BMW specifies LL-04. LL-04 has been developped for diesels engines and may also be used in gas engines. LL-01 satisfies current BMW's needs. So, the reply looks to be "No". OTOH, in 2007/2008 the BMW dealer even put 5W-40 Labo Carat and in 2008/2009, 5W-40 Castrol TXT Softec that both were LL98 specified ! Mobil-1 0W-40 looks to be a good deal, however my fear concerns the hydraulic tappets that might get noisy until the engine is warm enough. For an analog reason (clearances due to wearing) I also fear a loss of oil pressure in cold. => Any advise please ? I had this issue with my old E30 (180000 km), I tried all sorts of oils/viscosities and did not manage to cure it. Not worth to replace the tappets, I left them clicking until I sold it. For Floyd's information, about the LL-04 oil in the US, I read that it has some bad reaction with the ethanol and may causes problems. For this reason BMW wouldn't recommend it outside Europe http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1422995 Best regards |
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5w-30 or 10W-60 in an M54 @ 140 000 km now ?
> Castroly Syntec 0w-30 carries BMW LL-01 spec. Syntec 0w-30 is actually > made in Germany and is the equivalent of the European Edge 0w-30, which > means it is a different (better) formulation than all the other Syntec > grades. > > Pete > > I was told that Castrol Edge was the retail name of the bulk supplied Castrol SLX III. Regards David |
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