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Michael Johnson > wrote in
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> Joe wrote:
>> Michael Johnson > wrote in
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>>> My Name Is Nobody wrote:
>>>> > wrote in message
>>>> oups.com...
>>>>> On Oct 22, 8:40 pm, Michael Johnson > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also think the 2-door model was an excellent idea but just had
>>>>>>> poor execution. 2-seaters are supposed to be sporty and Ford's
>>>>>>> last generation T-bird, at nearly 4,000 scale-busting pounds,
>>>>>>> didn't have a chance. But if they could have gotten that
Thunder
>>>>>>> [thighs] Bird down to around 3,200, given it a slightly more
>>>>>>> aggressive stance/look, installed some real thunder under the
hood
>>>>>>> and given it a competitive price, I think Ford would have found
a
>>>>>>> nice sales niche.
>>>>>> The reason I think it was a bad idea is they greatly narrowed the
>>>>>> car's target market. Ford took the original car from a two
seater
>>>>>> to a four seater with great success. Had they not done that it
>>>>>> would likely have been discontinued. Why they thought going back
>>>>>> to two seats would mean more sales is beyond me.
>>>>> So Ford should forever concede the American 2-seat market to the
>>>>> Corvette?
>>>> That is an entirely different topic and market than the Thunderbird
>>>> ever was...
>>>>
>>>> Besides the latest 2 seat T-bird was not in the same room let alone
>>>> group as the Corvette and Viper.
>>> By comparison, it was a pansy ass. I would rather have a Miata than
>>> that T-Bird.
>>
>> <rowlf>
>>
>> Wow.
>
> Well, I would. I can install a 302 into a Miata or get a Kenne Bell
> twin screw blower and turn it into a Viper killer. Plus, it is light
as
> a feather and handles like it is on rails. I always looked at the
last
> T-Bird as a chick car and it had hardly any testosterone in it.

For the purposes of this discussion, let's not talk about 5.0 Miatas, as
they are rather cool because they're not really Miatas.

That said, _any_ T-Bird has tons more testosterone than a friggin'
Miata. Even the name is wussie. "Miata". What does that conjure up in
your mind?

<rowlf>

Joe wrote:
> Michael Johnson > wrote in
> :
>
>> Joe wrote:
>>> Michael Johnson > wrote in
>>> :
>>>
>>>> My Name Is Nobody wrote:
>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>> oups.com...
>>>>>> On Oct 22, 8:40 pm, Michael Johnson > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I also think the 2-door model was an excellent idea but just had
>>>>>>>> poor execution. 2-seaters are supposed to be sporty and Ford's
>>>>>>>> last generation T-bird, at nearly 4,000 scale-busting pounds,
>>>>>>>> didn't have a chance. But if they could have gotten that
> Thunder
>>>>>>>> [thighs] Bird down to around 3,200, given it a slightly more
>>>>>>>> aggressive stance/look, installed some real thunder under the
> hood
>>>>>>>> and given it a competitive price, I think Ford would have found
> a
>>>>>>>> nice sales niche.
>>>>>>> The reason I think it was a bad idea is they greatly narrowed the
>>>>>>> car's target market. Ford took the original car from a two
> seater
>>>>>>> to a four seater with great success. Had they not done that it
>>>>>>> would likely have been discontinued. Why they thought going back
>>>>>>> to two seats would mean more sales is beyond me.
>>>>>> So Ford should forever concede the American 2-seat market to the
>>>>>> Corvette?
>>>>> That is an entirely different topic and market than the Thunderbird
>>>>> ever was...
>>>>>
>>>>> Besides the latest 2 seat T-bird was not in the same room let alone
>>>>> group as the Corvette and Viper.
>>>> By comparison, it was a pansy ass. I would rather have a Miata than
>>>> that T-Bird.
>>> <rowlf>
>>>
>>> Wow.
>> Well, I would. I can install a 302 into a Miata or get a Kenne Bell
>> twin screw blower and turn it into a Viper killer. Plus, it is light
> as
>> a feather and handles like it is on rails. I always looked at the
> last
>> T-Bird as a chick car and it had hardly any testosterone in it.
>
> For the purposes of this discussion, let's not talk about 5.0 Miatas, as
> they are rather cool because they're not really Miatas.
>
> That said, _any_ T-Bird has tons more testosterone than a friggin'
> Miata. Even the name is wussie. "Miata". What does that conjure up in
> your mind?
>
> <rowlf>

My nephew has a Miata and I've driven his quite a bit. The car grows on
you. It reminds me of my old Triumph Spitfire except it is a much
better vehicle. They are very fun to drive. Many men have the same
feeling about Miatas as you do. My son does. If you can get past that
you will find a very capable two seater.

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> "My Name Is Nobody" > wrote in news:WKATi.3777$hG2.3224
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>>
>> "Joe" > wrote in message
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>>> Michael Johnson > wrote in
>>> :
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Oct 22, 8:14 pm, Michael Johnson > wrote:
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Oct 21, 11:26 am, Michael Johnson > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think an upscale Cougar well optioned with a 400 hp, 5.0L,
>>>>>>>>>>>> N/A 32 valve V-8 would sell like hotcakes priced around
> $35k.
>>>>>>>>>>> I still say a 4 door, sporty station wagon Mustang would sell
>>>>>>>>>>> like crazy!
>>>>>>>>>> That's like putting mustard on ice cream.
>>>>>>>>> I agree, to the purist, it would be revolting. But to the
>>>>>>>>> somewhat brand loyal, practical man and somewhat experienced,
> or
>>>>>>>>> most likely displaced, secretary with several kids and friends,
>>>>>>>>> football practices and games, and the odd weekend project, I
>>>>>>>>> think it would do quite well.
>>>>>>>> I have a feeling that the number of new buyers they get from a
>>>>>>>> four door Mustang would be offset by the number of Mustang
>>>>>>>> enthusiasts they would lose. IMO, some things just aren't meant
>>>>>>>> to be, like a four door Mustang.
>>>>>>> Mike,
>>>>>>> I don't know why you would assume a 4-door Mustang or a Mustang
>>>>>>> wagon would drive buyers of the 2-door variety away. I don't
> think
>>>>>>> it would.
>>>>>>> Or am I crazy to think buyers can easily be fooled with some
>>>>>>> different trim and a name change -- i.e Firebird/Camaro and
>>>>>>> Cougar/Mustang, Patrick
>>>>>>> (Love to have a Mustang mini-wagon/some thing like the old BMW M-
>>>>>>> coupe.)
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm all for Ford putting out a performance wagon. Just don't
>>>>>> *******ize the Mustang to do it. It would only take away from the
>>>>>> Mustang's heritage, IMO.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, simply stretch out a Mustang platform and body, change out the
>>>>> grill/some trim, slap on a Falcon name and it's golden?
>>>>
>>>> The Mustang platform has not always been exclusive and it wouldn't
>>>> bother me if they used it as the basis for a wagon. Just don't make
>>>> it look like a stretched Mustang with two extra doors. The Mustang
> is
>>>> a pony car and it should stay that way, IMO.
>>>
>>> Now that you mention it, the whole Fox line back in the '80s had your
> 4-
>>> door and wagon Mustangs. They were called LTDs and Fairmonts.
> What's
>>> in a name?
>>
>> Everything, DOH!
>
> That's pretty shallow. DOH!

At least shallow implies some depth, your position on this is absolutely
dense. You have lost the "I'm for ****in up the Mustang" debate on every
front, and replying with "I like performance" every time your circular logic
get spanked is simply childish. DOH!

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>
> "Joe" > wrote in message
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>> "My Name Is Nobody" > wrote in
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>>>
>>> "Joe" > wrote in message
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>>>> Michael Johnson > wrote in
>>>> :
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Oct 22, 8:14 pm, Michael Johnson > wrote:
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Oct 21, 11:26 am, Michael Johnson > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think an upscale Cougar well optioned with a 400 hp,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5.0L, N/A 32 valve V-8 would sell like hotcakes priced
>>>>>>>>>>>>> around
>> $35k.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I still say a 4 door, sporty station wagon Mustang would
>>>>>>>>>>>> sell like crazy!
>>>>>>>>>>> That's like putting mustard on ice cream.
>>>>>>>>>> I agree, to the purist, it would be revolting. But to the
>>>>>>>>>> somewhat brand loyal, practical man and somewhat experienced,
>> or
>>>>>>>>>> most likely displaced, secretary with several kids and
>>>>>>>>>> friends, football practices and games, and the odd weekend
>>>>>>>>>> project, I think it would do quite well.
>>>>>>>>> I have a feeling that the number of new buyers they get from a
>>>>>>>>> four door Mustang would be offset by the number of Mustang
>>>>>>>>> enthusiasts they would lose. IMO, some things just aren't
>>>>>>>>> meant to be, like a four door Mustang.
>>>>>>>> Mike,
>>>>>>>> I don't know why you would assume a 4-door Mustang or a Mustang
>>>>>>>> wagon would drive buyers of the 2-door variety away. I don't
>> think
>>>>>>>> it would.
>>>>>>>> Or am I crazy to think buyers can easily be fooled with some
>>>>>>>> different trim and a name change -- i.e Firebird/Camaro and
>>>>>>>> Cougar/Mustang, Patrick
>>>>>>>> (Love to have a Mustang mini-wagon/some thing like the old BMW
>>>>>>>> M- coupe.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm all for Ford putting out a performance wagon. Just don't
>>>>>>> *******ize the Mustang to do it. It would only take away from
>>>>>>> the Mustang's heritage, IMO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, simply stretch out a Mustang platform and body, change out
>>>>>> the grill/some trim, slap on a Falcon name and it's golden?
>>>>>
>>>>> The Mustang platform has not always been exclusive and it wouldn't
>>>>> bother me if they used it as the basis for a wagon. Just don't
>>>>> make it look like a stretched Mustang with two extra doors. The
>>>>> Mustang
>> is
>>>>> a pony car and it should stay that way, IMO.
>>>>
>>>> Now that you mention it, the whole Fox line back in the '80s had
>>>> your
>> 4-
>>>> door and wagon Mustangs. They were called LTDs and Fairmonts.
>> What's
>>>> in a name?
>>>
>>> Everything, DOH!
>>
>> That's pretty shallow. DOH!
>
> At least shallow implies some depth, your position on this is
> absolutely dense. You have lost the "I'm for ****in up the Mustang"
> debate on every front, and replying with "I like performance" every
> time your circular logic get spanked is simply childish. DOH!

The fact that you can't handle anyone who disagrees with you speaks
volumes. DOH!

So how often do _you_ change your oil?

Michael Johnson > wrote in
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> Joe wrote:
>> Michael Johnson > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>> Joe wrote:
>>>> Michael Johnson > wrote in
>>>> :
>>>>
>>>>> My Name Is Nobody wrote:
>>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>>> oups.com...
>>>>>>> On Oct 22, 8:40 pm, Michael Johnson > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I also think the 2-door model was an excellent idea but just
>>>>>>>>> had poor execution. 2-seaters are supposed to be sporty and
>>>>>>>>> Ford's last generation T-bird, at nearly 4,000 scale-busting
>>>>>>>>> pounds, didn't have a chance. But if they could have gotten
>>>>>>>>> that
>> Thunder
>>>>>>>>> [thighs] Bird down to around 3,200, given it a slightly more
>>>>>>>>> aggressive stance/look, installed some real thunder under the
>> hood
>>>>>>>>> and given it a competitive price, I think Ford would have
>>>>>>>>> found
>> a
>>>>>>>>> nice sales niche.
>>>>>>>> The reason I think it was a bad idea is they greatly narrowed
>>>>>>>> the car's target market. Ford took the original car from a two
>> seater
>>>>>>>> to a four seater with great success. Had they not done that it
>>>>>>>> would likely have been discontinued. Why they thought going
>>>>>>>> back to two seats would mean more sales is beyond me.
>>>>>>> So Ford should forever concede the American 2-seat market to the
>>>>>>> Corvette?
>>>>>> That is an entirely different topic and market than the
>>>>>> Thunderbird ever was...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Besides the latest 2 seat T-bird was not in the same room let
>>>>>> alone group as the Corvette and Viper.
>>>>> By comparison, it was a pansy ass. I would rather have a Miata
>>>>> than that T-Bird.
>>>> <rowlf>
>>>>
>>>> Wow.
>>> Well, I would. I can install a 302 into a Miata or get a Kenne Bell
>>> twin screw blower and turn it into a Viper killer. Plus, it is
>>> light
>> as
>>> a feather and handles like it is on rails. I always looked at the
>> last
>>> T-Bird as a chick car and it had hardly any testosterone in it.
>>
>> For the purposes of this discussion, let's not talk about 5.0 Miatas,
>> as they are rather cool because they're not really Miatas.
>>
>> That said, _any_ T-Bird has tons more testosterone than a friggin'
>> Miata. Even the name is wussie. "Miata". What does that conjure up
>> in your mind?
>>
>> <rowlf>
>
> My nephew has a Miata and I've driven his quite a bit. The car grows
> on you. It reminds me of my old Triumph Spitfire except it is a much
> better vehicle. They are very fun to drive. Many men have the same
> feeling about Miatas as you do. My son does. If you can get past
> that you will find a very capable two seater.

Perhaps I'll get past that when you can get past the whole name thing.
I guess the issues are similar...

Joe wrote:
> Michael Johnson > wrote in
> :
>
>> Joe wrote:
>>> Michael Johnson > wrote in
>>> :
>>>
>>>> Joe wrote:
>>>>> Michael Johnson > wrote in
>>>>> :
>>>>>
>>>>>> My Name Is Nobody wrote:
>>>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>>>> oups.com...
>>>>>>>> On Oct 22, 8:40 pm, Michael Johnson > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I also think the 2-door model was an excellent idea but just
>>>>>>>>>> had poor execution. 2-seaters are supposed to be sporty and
>>>>>>>>>> Ford's last generation T-bird, at nearly 4,000 scale-busting
>>>>>>>>>> pounds, didn't have a chance. But if they could have gotten
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>> Thunder
>>>>>>>>>> [thighs] Bird down to around 3,200, given it a slightly more
>>>>>>>>>> aggressive stance/look, installed some real thunder under the
>>> hood
>>>>>>>>>> and given it a competitive price, I think Ford would have
>>>>>>>>>> found
>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> nice sales niche.
>>>>>>>>> The reason I think it was a bad idea is they greatly narrowed
>>>>>>>>> the car's target market. Ford took the original car from a two
>>> seater
>>>>>>>>> to a four seater with great success. Had they not done that it
>>>>>>>>> would likely have been discontinued. Why they thought going
>>>>>>>>> back to two seats would mean more sales is beyond me.
>>>>>>>> So Ford should forever concede the American 2-seat market to the
>>>>>>>> Corvette?
>>>>>>> That is an entirely different topic and market than the
>>>>>>> Thunderbird ever was...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Besides the latest 2 seat T-bird was not in the same room let
>>>>>>> alone group as the Corvette and Viper.
>>>>>> By comparison, it was a pansy ass. I would rather have a Miata
>>>>>> than that T-Bird.
>>>>> <rowlf>
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow.
>>>> Well, I would. I can install a 302 into a Miata or get a Kenne Bell
>>>> twin screw blower and turn it into a Viper killer. Plus, it is
>>>> light
>>> as
>>>> a feather and handles like it is on rails. I always looked at the
>>> last
>>>> T-Bird as a chick car and it had hardly any testosterone in it.
>>> For the purposes of this discussion, let's not talk about 5.0 Miatas,
>>> as they are rather cool because they're not really Miatas.
>>>
>>> That said, _any_ T-Bird has tons more testosterone than a friggin'
>>> Miata. Even the name is wussie. "Miata". What does that conjure up
>>> in your mind?
>>>
>>> <rowlf>
>> My nephew has a Miata and I've driven his quite a bit. The car grows
>> on you. It reminds me of my old Triumph Spitfire except it is a much
>> better vehicle. They are very fun to drive. Many men have the same
>> feeling about Miatas as you do. My son does. If you can get past
>> that you will find a very capable two seater.
>
> Perhaps I'll get past that when you can get past the whole name thing.
> I guess the issues are similar...

I don't see the similarities. Putting four doors on a Mustang is a huge
change in the image of that car. The Mustang has nearly as much history
as the Corvette and that means something to the car's purpose and reason
for existing. It the Mustang was circling the drain because of low
sales volumes then I could understand Ford doing something radical like
making a wagon variant. Since this isn't the case, I see no need for
Ford to make such a risky move and possibly jeopardize the car's
excellent heritage. Trying to make one car fill a variety of roles
rarely works and just serves to dilute that car's identity and, in the
case of the Mustang, its reputation as a pony car.

On Oct 23, 8:01 pm, "My Name Is Nobody" > wrote:

> >> > I also think the 2-door model was an excellent idea but just had poor
> >> > execution. 2-seaters are supposed to be sporty and Ford's last
> >> > generation T-bird, at nearly 4,000 scale-busting pounds, didn't have a
> >> > chance. But if they could have gotten that Thunder [thighs] Bird down
> >> > to around 3,200, given it a slightly more aggressive stance/look,
> >> > installed some real thunder under the hood and given it a competitive
> >> > price, I think Ford would have found a nice sales niche.

> >> The reason I think it was a bad idea is they greatly narrowed the car's
> >> target market. Ford took the original car from a two seater to a four
> >> seater with great success. Had they not done that it would likely have
> >> been discontinued. Why they thought going back to two seats would mean
> >> more sales is beyond me.

> > So Ford should forever concede the American 2-seat market to the
> > Corvette?

> That is an entirely different topic and market than the Thunderbird ever
> was...

> Besides the latest 2 seat T-bird was not in the same room let alone group as
> the Corvette and Viper.
> <Cough>Ford GT<cough>

> > <Cough>Viper<cough>

Nobody,

True enough on both counts. But my main point was Ford never gives a
serious effort to establish a good 2-seat sports car. The original
Bird lasted but three model years and the Ford GT, for as good as it
was, was way too expensive to grab a life-sustaining market share to
keep it alive. And everyone blows off a Ford 2-seater idea by saying
the Vette owns the market and there's not enough buyers to go around.
Well, the Viper proved that wrong. And I think Ford could carve a
nice niche with a "cruiser" 2-seater (w/useable trunk) that has some
balls/attitude. Then price it about 5-10 grand under a base Vette. I
think the guys who buy/like Harleys would love it.

(Note: I'm not saying for Ford to do this now. Ford has to get their
house back in order, but they should make another attempt at some
point and I think this should be the formula for their 2-seater.)

Patrick

"Michael Johnson" > wrote in message
...
> WindsorFox wrote:
>> Michael Johnson wrote:
>>> WindsorFox wrote:
>>>> Michael Johnson wrote:
>>>>> John wrote:
>>>>>> "Michael Johnson" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> John wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Michael Johnson" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> I think an upscale Cougar well optioned with a 400 hp, 5.0L, N/A
>>>>>>>>> 32 valve V-8 would sell like hotcakes priced around $35k.
>>>>>>>> I still say a 4 door, sporty station wagon Mustang would sell like
>>>>>>>> crazy!
>>>>>>> That's like putting mustard on ice cream.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yuck! Being the ice cream connoisseur that I was, pre-diabetic now
>>>>>> in my 50's, that was like a pan of cold water.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sometimes a slap to the face is needed.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree, to the purist, it would be revolting. But to the somewhat
>>>>>> brand loyal, practical man and somewhat experienced, or most likely
>>>>>> displaced, secretary with several kids and friends, football
>>>>>> practices and games, and the odd weekend project, I think it would do
>>>>>> quite well.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a feeling that the number of new buyers they get from a four
>>>>> door Mustang would be offset by the number of Mustang enthusiasts they
>>>>> would lose. IMO, some things just aren't meant to be, like a four
>>>>> door Mustang. Any more than two doors and it ceases to be a Mustang.
>>>>> Besides there are plenty of fine and capable four door sedans to
>>>>> choose from that are already in the showrooms.
>>>>
>>>> So you're thinking that if they came out with a second different
>>>> model that has four doors, some loyal Mustang owners would sell and or
>>>> never buy another Mustang again even with the two door still in
>>>> production??
>>>
>>> Selling a Mom and Pop four door Mustang diminishes the car's mystic,
>>> reputation, heritage etc. It would also show Ford is so desperate to
>>> sell vehicles that they will jeopardize one of their best selling, most
>>> long term success models to do it. It would be a very bad business
>>> decision, IMO.
>>
>>
>> Well, I'm not positive I agree with that, but they could always call
>> it a Falcon.
>
> I don't care what they would call it as long as it doesn't have a Mustang
> connotation in its name or even remotely resembles one

If one's wife has her tits enhanced, they are still tits, and I doubt one
will get so upset that he forgoes sharing carnal pleasures with her. He
will probably do just the opposite.

--
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'69 Mach 1 w/ 390 4V
Wide Ratio Toploader
3.50 Traction-Lok
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John wrote:
> "Michael Johnson" > wrote in message
> ...
>> WindsorFox wrote:
>>> Michael Johnson wrote:
>>>> WindsorFox wrote:
>>>>> Michael Johnson wrote:
>>>>>> John wrote:
>>>>>>> "Michael Johnson" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> John wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Michael Johnson" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>> I think an upscale Cougar well optioned with a 400 hp, 5.0L, N/A
>>>>>>>>>> 32 valve V-8 would sell like hotcakes priced around $35k.
>>>>>>>>> I still say a 4 door, sporty station wagon Mustang would sell like
>>>>>>>>> crazy!
>>>>>>>> That's like putting mustard on ice cream.
>>>>>>> Yuck! Being the ice cream connoisseur that I was, pre-diabetic now
>>>>>>> in my 50's, that was like a pan of cold water.
>>>>>> Sometimes a slap to the face is needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree, to the purist, it would be revolting. But to the somewhat
>>>>>>> brand loyal, practical man and somewhat experienced, or most likely
>>>>>>> displaced, secretary with several kids and friends, football
>>>>>>> practices and games, and the odd weekend project, I think it would do
>>>>>>> quite well.
>>>>>> I have a feeling that the number of new buyers they get from a four
>>>>>> door Mustang would be offset by the number of Mustang enthusiasts they
>>>>>> would lose. IMO, some things just aren't meant to be, like a four
>>>>>> door Mustang. Any more than two doors and it ceases to be a Mustang.
>>>>>> Besides there are plenty of fine and capable four door sedans to
>>>>>> choose from that are already in the showrooms.
>>>>> So you're thinking that if they came out with a second different
>>>>> model that has four doors, some loyal Mustang owners would sell and or
>>>>> never buy another Mustang again even with the two door still in
>>>>> production??
>>>> Selling a Mom and Pop four door Mustang diminishes the car's mystic,
>>>> reputation, heritage etc. It would also show Ford is so desperate to
>>>> sell vehicles that they will jeopardize one of their best selling, most
>>>> long term success models to do it. It would be a very bad business
>>>> decision, IMO.
>>>
>>> Well, I'm not positive I agree with that, but they could always call
>>> it a Falcon.
>> I don't care what they would call it as long as it doesn't have a Mustang
>> connotation in its name or even remotely resembles one
>
> If one's wife has her tits enhanced, they are still tits, and I doubt one
> will get so upset that he forgoes sharing carnal pleasures with her. He
> will probably do just the opposite.

Fake boobs do nothing for me. I'll take a set of natural A cups over a
set of DD's full of man made junk any day. Would you inject your penis
with silicone to make it bigger? I sure as hell wouldn't. I think it
is sad that us men have made women think they need all this plastic
surgery to look attractive and be desirable.

"Michael Johnson" > wrote in message
news
> John wrote:
>> "Michael Johnson" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> WindsorFox wrote:
>>>> Michael Johnson wrote:
>>>>> WindsorFox wrote:
>>>>>> Michael Johnson wrote:
>>>>>>> John wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Michael Johnson" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> John wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Michael Johnson" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>> I think an upscale Cougar well optioned with a 400 hp, 5.0L, N/A
>>>>>>>>>>> 32 valve V-8 would sell like hotcakes priced around $35k.
>>>>>>>>>> I still say a 4 door, sporty station wagon Mustang would sell
>>>>>>>>>> like crazy!
>>>>>>>>> That's like putting mustard on ice cream.
>>>>>>>> Yuck! Being the ice cream connoisseur that I was, pre-diabetic now
>>>>>>>> in my 50's, that was like a pan of cold water.
>>>>>>> Sometimes a slap to the face is needed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree, to the purist, it would be revolting. But to the somewhat
>>>>>>>> brand loyal, practical man and somewhat experienced, or most likely
>>>>>>>> displaced, secretary with several kids and friends, football
>>>>>>>> practices and games, and the odd weekend project, I think it would
>>>>>>>> do quite well.
>>>>>>> I have a feeling that the number of new buyers they get from a four
>>>>>>> door Mustang would be offset by the number of Mustang enthusiasts
>>>>>>> they would lose. IMO, some things just aren't meant to be, like a
>>>>>>> four door Mustang. Any more than two doors and it ceases to be a
>>>>>>> Mustang. Besides there are plenty of fine and capable four door
>>>>>>> sedans to choose from that are already in the showrooms.
>>>>>> So you're thinking that if they came out with a second different
>>>>>> model that has four doors, some loyal Mustang owners would sell and
>>>>>> or never buy another Mustang again even with the two door still in
>>>>>> production??
>>>>> Selling a Mom and Pop four door Mustang diminishes the car's mystic,
>>>>> reputation, heritage etc. It would also show Ford is so desperate to
>>>>> sell vehicles that they will jeopardize one of their best selling,
>>>>> most long term success models to do it. It would be a very bad
>>>>> business decision, IMO.
>>>>
>>>> Well, I'm not positive I agree with that, but they could always call
>>>> it a Falcon.
>>> I don't care what they would call it as long as it doesn't have a
>>> Mustang connotation in its name or even remotely resembles one
>>
>> If one's wife has her tits enhanced, they are still tits, and I doubt one
>> will get so upset that he forgoes sharing carnal pleasures with her. He
>> will probably do just the opposite.
>
> Fake boobs do nothing for me. I'll take a set of natural A cups over a
> set of DD's full of man made junk any day. Would you inject your penis
> with silicone to make it bigger? I sure as hell wouldn't. I think it is
> sad that us men have made women think they need all this plastic surgery
> to look attractive and be desirable.

Have you ever heard of
Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD)
What is it?
ODD is a psychiatric disorder that is characterized by aggressiveness and a
tendency to purposefully bother and irritate others. In layman terms it's
like having a PhD in HTPPO (how to **** people off).

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'69 Mach 1 w/ 390 4V
Wide Ratio Toploader
3.50 Traction-Lok
Acapulco Blue