Should Cyclists Pack Guns?

On Apr 19, 3:40 pm, donquijote1954 >
wrote:
> > I rather appreciate a comment often attributed to Benjamin Franklin:
> > "He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves
> > neither liberty nor security"
>
> I guess we should disband HOMELAND SECURITY then.

Sounds good to me.

In article >,
Just A User > wrote:
>Okay so that is one, but they are a lot less common than here in the U.S.
>
>Here in the gun happy U.S. we have at least a couple of mass shootings
>per year.

A lie, of course.
--
There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can
result in a fully-depreciated one.

On Apr 19, 2:59 pm, "Thumper" > wrote:
> "donquijote1954" > wrote in message
>
> ups.com...> Hey, we get screamed at, doored at, spitted upon, pushed around and
> > even killed, isn't it time we enjoy the same benefits as other
> > Americans? When is a cyclist going into a rage and mow down all those
> > careless SUV drivers who make us feel worthless?
>
> Definitely, all motorcycle riders should carry sidearms (not bicyclists
> though, they're all fruitcakes). Unfortunately, if we use them we'll go to
> jail.

You should consider a motorcycle that explodes upon impact, or at
least a bumper sticker that declares so...

"You don't want your bicycle/motorcycle* ride to be spoiled by
careless drivers who intimidate you. Well, it's time you make them
feel you are about to explode..."

*it may also be used by small imported cars.

http://www.zazzle.com/product/128182721431690818

On Apr 19, 3:45 pm, Olebiker > wrote:
> On Apr 19, 3:40 pm, donquijote1954 >
> wrote:
>
> > > I rather appreciate a comment often attributed to Benjamin Franklin:
> > > "He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves
> > > neither liberty nor security"
>
> > I guess we should disband HOMELAND SECURITY then.
>
> Sounds good to me.

Yet one less bureaucracy...

--I ride my bike in LA (not a bike friendly place) where SUV's rule
every road and street, and it doesn't make me feel worthless. If
anything, I feel empowered.
Republicans don't 'cycle you think? Perhaps if you talked to people
instead of typing to them, you might find that Republicans are not the
crazed individuals as you would like everyone to believe.--

California Republicans seem to be OK. I guess it has to do with having
a common sense governor...

For example, this "rigth wing," "conservative" Republican is doing
pretty good...

Schwarzenegger surprises

California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger today will fulfill yet another
campaign promise when he signs a bill to reform the state's costly
workers compensation program.
The signing will mark the fourth major victory for the former action-
movie star since he became governor barely five months ago.
Mr. Schwarzenegger's accomplishments, which have defied the political
odds from the beginning, are winning the Republican governor praise
from Democrats and once-skeptical fellow Republicans.
"He's doing better than I expected," said Gail Kaufman, a leading
Democratic strategist in the state.

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20...3752-6563r.htm

On Apr 19, 1:11 pm, Road Glidin' Don > wrote:
> On Apr 19, 9:34 am, donquijote1954 >
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hey, we get screamed at, doored at,
>
> Hopefully a door opener gets you some day, so we don't have to put up
> with your retarded cross-posts anymore.

I'd consider it an act of terrorism. Bicycles should have the right to
be free from opening doors as well as from invasive cars. If someone
has the right ot bear arms, we should have the right to ride a bike
SAFELY on the streets, ie. WE NEED BIKE LANES.

On Apr 19, 3:48 pm, (Matthew T. Russotto)
wrote:
> In article >,
> Just A User > wrote:
>
> >Okay so that is one, but they are a lot less common than here in the U.S.
>
> >Here in the gun happy U.S. we have at least a couple of mass shootings
> >per year.
>
> A lie, of course.

We are not the only one, but we are #1in gun violence... It's "as easy
to buy weapons as a loaf of bread," says this article that gauges
world opinion...

"The U.S. is not the only country in which random acts of gun violence
have erupted in seemingly everyday circumstances to destroy lives,
families and communities," said Britain's Guardian newspaper. "But the
U.S. is one of the few countries that seems collectively unwilling and
politically incapable of doing anything serious to stop such things
happening again."The slayings Monday at Virginia Tech reinforced a
perception that in the U.S., it is "as easy to buy weapons as a loaf
of bread," in the words of one Russian woman on a Moscow street. "Any
madman can get hold of a gun," said Natalya Ivanova, a 22-year-old
secretary.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...ationworld-hed

In article >, Jim Yanik wrote:

> they are not listening to anyones calls except for those numbers they have
> gotten from foreign intelligence.

Those rooms for the NSA at the phone companies are just there for
decoration.... but I agree, there isn't a person listening in real time.

Just A User wrote:
> Curtis L. Russell wrote:
>
>> On 19 Apr 2007 08:34:20 -0700, donquijote1954
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I guess we cyclists are too pacific for that (or just that we aren't
>>> Republicans), but in light of all that violence out there, shouldn't
>>> we rethink our strategy (everyone to himself) and get together to
>>> launch a good nonviolent campaign?
>>
>>
>> I don't expect 'normal' from you, but don't you find this just a
>> little bit tasteless considering what just happened on the Virginia
>> Tech campus?
>>
>> And using 'Republicans' must be your way to compensate for not being
>> able to actually make a complete, cogent thought on your own. I'm sure
>> there are some reflexive 'thinkers' such as yourself that will think
>> you made some point or another.
>>
>> Curtis L. Russell
>> Odenton, MD (USA)
>> Just someone on two wheels...
>
> Upon mentioning VA Tech, I have to put in my two cents, Cho was a wack
> job, but personally I think the right to bear arm part of the
> constitution needs to be re thought. In countries, such as the U.K.
> where gun control laws are very strict, they don't have incidents like
> those at the campus on Monday.
>
> Now as to cyclists packing heat, thats just extra weight I don't want to
> carry around on my rides.
>
> Ken

Before Monday, the U.S. had not had an incident like that.
The U.K. also has surviellance cameras every 15 feet. Would you be
willing to live in an Orwellian world for a false sense of security?
I personally figure if some crazy wacko nutjob wants to go on a killing
spree, he'll find a way, with, or without a gun, and I'ld just as soon
improve my odds by having one to stop him.
Now that I've poked at the ant bed a little bit, i'm gonna go have a nap.

On Apr 19, 8:34 am, donquijote1954 >
wrote:
> Hey, we get screamed at, doored at, spitted upon, pushed around and
> even killed, isn't it time we enjoy the same benefits as other
> Americans? When is a cyclist going into a rage and mow down all those
> careless SUV drivers who make us feel worthless?
[snip]

SpikeBike did this *years* ago. Weren't you paying attention?

http://members.aol.com/clubnbc/spike_1.htm

-- Michael