New Charger ad, more crap

Grumbler wrote:
> "Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote:
>> I like the half helmet because it is lighter, cooler and, most of all, I
>> can hear much better.
>
> How's your hearing at 75mph with the wind
> barreling into your eardrums? :-)

Doesn't bother me at all. It is when I'm in town that the better
hearing pays off in spades.

Grumbler wrote:
> "SVTKate" > wrote:
>
>>I haven't seen the commercial but...
>>those 40 something guys on Harleys are the ones that have been riding them
>>for the last 20-30 years.
>>They are the ones that took the Harley from a bad image to a great ride.
>
>
> Have seen the commercial, and every single one of those
> bikes is a custom chopper, not a stock Harley-Davidson.
>
> Many, if not most, of those 40-something guys who can
> afford to spend $30K to $150K on a custom chopper
> have very little riding experience. If they did, it was before
> marriage and family.
>
> They don't even know how to countersteer a motorcycle,
> and those of us with decades of experience consider many
> of those owners to be clueless RUBs riding butt jewelry.
>
> Sure, there's also *real* bikers riding those types of bikes,
> but they usually built it themselves. If you ever go to Sturgis
> during the rally, you'd be astonished at the number of RVs
> and motorcycle trailers parked all over the place.
>
> Motorcycling is supposed to be about getting away from it all,
> but all too many are into it for ego gratification, and may never
> have to replace the rear tires as they rarely ride their Garage
> Queens. Too busy making money or something. ;^)


I see Chuck Zito fairly frequently on his custom chopper (which I'm sure
he didn't build) when he's not driving his custom vette. Perhaps you'd
like to meet him in person and take issue with his "butt jewelery."
Bring a medic.

Cheers,

"Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message
...
: SVTKate wrote:
: > Uhhhh....
: > I haven't seen the commercial but...
: > those 40 something guys on Harleys are the ones that have been riding
them
: > for the last 20-30 years.
: > They are the ones that took the Harley from a bad image to a great ride.
: >
: > How many punk kids do you see riding a Harley? Because ?
: > The half helmets are a compliance thing, not a fashion statement.
: > i.e.: "I'll wear it if I have to but I will wear as little as possible
and
: > be comfortable while I'm at it"
:
: I like the half helmet because it is lighter, cooler and, most of all, I
: can hear much better.

There now you have it, from the man himself....
and he isn't trying to be kewel at all!

dang yuppies..... *wink*

Kate

Michael Johnson, PE wrote:
> wrote:
>
>> Mutilating that classic rock song into rap crap,
>> then showing some YUPPIE Charger driver fantasizing that
>> little kids on bikes are 'tards on Harleys.
>> It's bad enough seeing 40+ year old YUPPIES actually RIDING
>> Harleys, complete with those ridiculous "half-helmets" they use
>> to look like "rebels."
>> Someone please wake me from this consumerist nightmare, please?
>> Bring back REAL muscle cars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
> What the hell are you talking about!?!? We have cars today that
> absolutely annihilate the muscle cars of the 1960s in every performance
> category. Even many econoboxes would give a Boss 429 a run in the 1/4
> mile and kill it on a road course. Times are good indeed for us gear
> heads. Quit bitching.

I agree. Mustang Monthly last month has an article on the 'best 25
mustangs of all time' (or something like that). In the article they
reference the fastest 1/4 mile time for a 60's-70's factory stock
mustang was the 71 boss351 at something like 13.8. Hell, my bone stock
(paper filter and all) 97 cobra can turn high 13's on a good day. 2003
cobras are easy low to mid 13 second cars in bone stock form. Compare
1971 brakes, tires, and suspension to a 03 cobra and IMO the cobra wins
hands down. Styling is a personal preference, but raw horsepower to the
ground and down the 1/4 does not lie...

Exactly what vehicle did you just buy Kate?

SVTKate wrote:

> Uhhhh....
> I haven't seen the commercial but...
> those 40 something guys on Harleys are the ones that have been riding them
> for the last 20-30 years.
> They are the ones that took the Harley from a bad image to a great ride.
>
> How many punk kids do you see riding a Harley? Because ?
> The half helmets are a compliance thing, not a fashion statement.
> i.e.: "I'll wear it if I have to but I will wear as little as possible and
> be comfortable while I'm at it"
>
> Sounds to me like YOU are the rebel without a clue.
>
> Oh, yea AND.... those 40 something Yuppies ARE the target market because WE
> are the ones that drove the originals and WE are the ones that can afford
> the new cars.
>
> You have your own generation, make your own classics. If you don't like the
> charger that's your perogative, a lot of other people don't. Just because it
> has 4 doors doesn't mean it isn't muscle..
>
> Kate
>
> > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> : Mutilating that classic rock song into rap crap,
> : then showing some YUPPIE Charger driver fantasizing that
> : little kids on bikes are 'tards on Harleys.
> : It's bad enough seeing 40+ year old YUPPIES actually RIDING
> : Harleys, complete with those ridiculous "half-helmets" they use
> : to look like "rebels."
> : Someone please wake me from this consumerist nightmare, please?
> : Bring back REAL muscle cars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> :
>
>

"Ritz" > wrote:
> I see Chuck Zito fairly frequently on his custom chopper (which I'm sure
> he didn't build) when he's not driving his custom vette. Perhaps you'd
> like to meet him in person and take issue with his "butt jewelery." Bring
> a medic.

I know who Chuck Zito is. Can't make any assumpations whether
he built it himself or not. Why don't you ask him?

-=G

wrote:
> Michael Johnson, PE wrote:
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Mutilating that classic rock song into rap crap,
>>> then showing some YUPPIE Charger driver fantasizing that
>>> little kids on bikes are 'tards on Harleys.
>>> It's bad enough seeing 40+ year old YUPPIES actually RIDING
>>> Harleys, complete with those ridiculous "half-helmets" they use
>>> to look like "rebels."
>>> Someone please wake me from this consumerist nightmare, please?
>>> Bring back REAL muscle cars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>
>> What the hell are you talking about!?!? We have cars today that
>> absolutely annihilate the muscle cars of the 1960s in every
>> performance category. Even many econoboxes would give a Boss 429 a
>> run in the 1/4 mile and kill it on a road course. Times are good
>> indeed for us gear heads. Quit bitching.
>
> I agree. Mustang Monthly last month has an article on the 'best 25
> mustangs of all time' (or something like that). In the article they
> reference the fastest 1/4 mile time for a 60's-70's factory stock
> mustang was the 71 boss351 at something like 13.8. Hell, my bone stock
> (paper filter and all) 97 cobra can turn high 13's on a good day. 2003
> cobras are easy low to mid 13 second cars in bone stock form. Compare
> 1971 brakes, tires, and suspension to a 03 cobra and IMO the cobra wins
> hands down. Styling is a personal preference, but raw horsepower to the
> ground and down the 1/4 does not lie...

Neither does lap times on a road course.

Grumbler wrote:
> "Ritz" > wrote:
>> I see Chuck Zito fairly frequently on his custom chopper (which I'm sure
>> he didn't build) when he's not driving his custom vette. Perhaps you'd
>> like to meet him in person and take issue with his "butt jewelery." Bring
>> a medic.
>
> I know who Chuck Zito is. Can't make any assumpations whether
> he built it himself or not. Why don't you ask him?

I don't see the importance about building the bike you ride. The vast
majority of ALL riders don't build their bikes. Why invest the time and
money into a one-off project? I could say the same about the house you
live in. I doubt you built it yourself and I don't care one way or the
other anyhow. As for a person's motives for riding, why should anyone care?

"ZombyWoof" > wrote
>>> 425hp V8 rear wheel drive sedan seems like a muscle car to me.
>> *sigh* a cool two seater with 400+ hp from a GM division other than
>>Chevrolet (vette) is likely not gonna happen...
>>
> Ain't no likely about it. The Vette will always be at the top of the
> GM food chain.

I beg to differ, even though I also bleed Ford corporate blue, the Cadillac
STS-V has 469hp and 439lb/ft out of a 4.4L Northstar. It's not a Corvette.
It's much less displacement than the less powerful 6.0L LS2 'vette motor,
and it's smaller than the mod motors from the blue oval. That sounds like a
factory badass muscle car to me.
--
Scott W.
'66 HCS Mustang 289
'68 Ranchero 500 302
'69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W
ThunderSnake #57
http://home.comcast.net/~vanguard92/

"SVTKate" > wrote
> WE are the ones that drove the originals...

No offense Kate, but I didn't realize you were that old. Harley just
celebrated it's hundredth anniversary just like Ford did.
--
Scott W.
'66 HCS Mustang 289
'68 Ranchero 500 302
'69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W
ThunderSnake #57
http://home.comcast.net/~vanguard92/