GM: Kill Pontiac

"M.C. Tee" > wrote in message
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> h1 = real hummer
> h2 = tahoe + body kit


I think it would be more correct to say Suburban 2500 + body kit. It has a
GCVW high enough to avoid CAFE. I'll admit the difference is somewhat
trivial. The actual H2 wheelbase is different than either the Tahoe or
Suburban, but it has the same heavier duty suspension components as the HD
Suburban.

Ed

"noname" > wrote in message
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> What the heck is an "H1"

The H1 is based on the original military Hum Vee - you know the one that is
totally impractical for the street - noisy, bad gas mileage, horrible ride,
only four seats, expensive, unreliable, etc., etc., etc. The only people
that buy them don't really need them...a "statement" vehicle.

The H2 is a Suburban 2500 with an ugly body, less interior room, and an even
higher price tag.

Ed

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Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 3:06 PM
Subject: GM: Kill Pontiac


> Would you say Lincoln Mark VIII was simply a Ford Fairmont with a
> different body since they both originated from the Ford Fox
> chassis?

In terms of capability that pretty much sums it up. The Mark VIII was a
reduced function Fairmont with a more expensive looking interior, an
improved ride, and less interior noise.

Ed

No, the GM vehicles we are talking about are almost exactly the same
underneath.
Not talking about any ford product. Never mentioned Ford.
That's a unibody car. We are talking about a vehicle with a real frame.
The idea is that when someone uneducated in automotive construction
techniques buys a Hummer and thinks they have some unstoppable military
issued supertruck when in fact what they have is a rebodied
Tahoe/Suburban/Yukon.


> wrote in message
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> Would you say Lincoln Mark VIII was simply a Ford Fairmont with a
> different body since they both originated from the Ford Fox
> chassis?
>
>
> mike hunt
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>
>
> noname wrote:
> >
> > Yes you are right H1 is real hummer
> > H2 is tahoe/yukon with different body.
> >
> > "noname" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > What the heck is an "H1"
> > >
> > >

Ya right. LOL


mike hunt



"C. E. White" wrote:
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: >
> Newsgroups: alt.autos.pontiac,rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang,al t.autos.ford
> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 3:06 PM
> Subject: GM: Kill Pontiac
>
> > Would you say Lincoln Mark VIII was simply a Ford Fairmont with a
> > different body since they both originated from the Ford Fox
> > chassis?
>
> In terms of capability that pretty much sums it up. The Mark VIII was a
> reduced function Fairmont with a more expensive looking interior, an
> improved ride, and less interior noise.
>
> Ed

> ZombyWoof wrote:
> All the vehicles are basically the same with the exception of the
Corvette and
> now the Caddy folks are knocking off a luxo-barge version of that.

I wouldn't call the XLR a luxo-barge. It's more like what the original
Cougar was compared to the Mustang.

Patrick
93 Cobra

wrote:
> Would you say Lincoln Mark VIII was simply a Ford Fairmont with a
> different body since they both originated from the Ford Fox
> chassis?
>
>

That would be a MK VII (7). I usually joke that mine is a Cougar with a gland
problem. I have also referred to it as a Fairmont in disguise.

So exactly what can a Lincoln Mark VIII do that a Fairmont
could not do? I am not talking about costing more, looking
nicer, or riding better, I am talking about real capability
- hauling people and cargo, etc.....

Ed

wrote:
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> Ya right. LOL
>
> mike hunt
>
> "C. E. White" wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: >
> > Newsgroups: alt.autos.pontiac,rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang,al t.autos.ford
> > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 3:06 PM
> > Subject: GM: Kill Pontiac
> >
> > > Would you say Lincoln Mark VIII was simply a Ford Fairmont with a
> > > different body since they both originated from the Ford Fox
> > > chassis?
> >
> > In terms of capability that pretty much sums it up. The Mark VIII was a
> > reduced function Fairmont with a more expensive looking interior, an
> > improved ride, and less interior noise.
> >
> > Ed

Did they do that good job of disguising the Mark VIII from the
Fairmont by changing the outer body shell, interior, wheel base,
microprocessor, engine, transmission, rear and the suspension?


mike hunt



Tom Adkins wrote:
>
> wrote:
> > Would you say Lincoln Mark VIII was simply a Ford Fairmont with a
> > different body since they both originated from the Ford Fox
> > chassis?
> >
> >
>
> That would be a MK VII (7). I usually joke that mine is a Cougar with a gland
> problem. I have also referred to it as a Fairmont in disguise.

> wrote in message
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> Did they do that good job of disguising the Mark VIII from the
> Fairmont by changing the outer body shell, interior, wheel base,
> microprocessor, engine, transmission, rear and the suspension?
>
>
> mike hunt


I remember when Lee Iococca was speaking about one of the cars derived from
a car that as derived from a car that was derived from a K-car platform is
based on the K-car: It is like calling an ax "my grandfather's ax" after
replacing the handle three times and the head twice.

Jeff