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Any word on US versions of the diesel Jeep Liberty or diesel Land Rover Discovery?
R. David Steele wrote:
> I thought that these two were to be coming out this month? > > any word on this? I'm not sure about the Jeep which uses the Mercedes turbo-diesel but you won't see the Discovery diesel for a while. There are no plans to export the current Disco with the TD5 unit to North America but they may send over the all-new Discovery when it comes out later this year. It uses a jointly developed Ford/Peugeot 2.7l V6 turbo diesel with the latest common rail technology and puts out 200hp and over 300lbs-ft of torque but should still return 30mpg. The petrol engine will be a Jaguar 4.2 V8 with 300hp. -- Julian --------- = Pretentious Sig required = |
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On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:29:52 GMT, "Exit" > employed a
troop of monkeys to hit keyboards to produce: >R. David Steele wrote: >> I thought that these two were to be coming out this month? >> >> any word on this? > >I'm not sure about the Jeep which uses the Mercedes turbo-diesel but you >won't see the Discovery diesel for a while. The European Jeep Cherokee Diesels (Liberty for US) KJ models are powered by VM Diesels (2.5 for the manual and 2.8 for the Auto, both Common Rail types) not a Mercedes Diesel. The only Mercedes engine being used so far is in the WG Grand Cherokee which has a 2.7 Litre 5 cyl variable vane turbo with electronic injection on a Common Rail system. Awesome engine, pity about the rest of the car. No idea of the introduction to the US though. Why would you want a diesel in the US? Doesn't gasoline cost less than the stuff you call beer? ;-) -- Russ Jeep Technician and Big Hairy Biker |
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ColonelTupperware wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:29:52 GMT, "Exit" > employed a > troop of monkeys to hit keyboards to produce: > >> R. David Steele wrote: >>> I thought that these two were to be coming out this month? >>> >>> any word on this? >> >> I'm not sure about the Jeep which uses the Mercedes turbo-diesel but >> you won't see the Discovery diesel for a while. > > The European Jeep Cherokee Diesels (Liberty for US) KJ models are > powered by VM Diesels (2.5 for the manual and 2.8 for the Auto, both > Common Rail types) not a Mercedes Diesel. The only Mercedes engine > being used so far is in the WG Grand Cherokee which has a 2.7 Litre 5 > cyl variable vane turbo with electronic injection on a Common Rail > system. > Awesome engine, pity about the rest of the car. > My mistake, I didn't realise anyone was daft enough to still use VM diesels! -- Julian --------- = Pretentious Sig required = |
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On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 16:25:34 GMT, "Exit" > employed a
troop of monkeys to hit keyboards to produce: >ColonelTupperware wrote: >> On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:29:52 GMT, "Exit" > employed a >> troop of monkeys to hit keyboards to produce: >> >>> R. David Steele wrote: >>>> I thought that these two were to be coming out this month? >>>> >>>> any word on this? >>> >>> I'm not sure about the Jeep which uses the Mercedes turbo-diesel but >>> you won't see the Discovery diesel for a while. >> >> The European Jeep Cherokee Diesels (Liberty for US) KJ models are >> powered by VM Diesels (2.5 for the manual and 2.8 for the Auto, both >> Common Rail types) not a Mercedes Diesel. The only Mercedes engine >> being used so far is in the WG Grand Cherokee which has a 2.7 Litre 5 >> cyl variable vane turbo with electronic injection on a Common Rail >> system. >> Awesome engine, pity about the rest of the car. >> >My mistake, I didn't realise anyone was daft enough to still use VM diesels! I think that Jeep are going to integrate the Merc engines when they can, but Merc wont let them have any other engines. Mind ewe the VM engines aren't that bad now. Daimler Chrysler give Merc's cast offs to Chrysler Jeep, witness the Crossfire, an old C type in disguise. -- Russ Jeep Technician and Big Hairy Biker |
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ColonelTupperware wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 16:25:34 GMT, "Exit" > employed a > troop of monkeys to hit keyboards to produce: > >> ColonelTupperware wrote: >>> On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:29:52 GMT, "Exit" > employed >>> a troop of monkeys to hit keyboards to produce: >>> >>>> R. David Steele wrote: >>>>> I thought that these two were to be coming out this month? >>>>> >>>>> any word on this? >>>> >>>> I'm not sure about the Jeep which uses the Mercedes turbo-diesel >>>> but you won't see the Discovery diesel for a while. >>> >>> The European Jeep Cherokee Diesels (Liberty for US) KJ models are >>> powered by VM Diesels (2.5 for the manual and 2.8 for the Auto, both >>> Common Rail types) not a Mercedes Diesel. The only Mercedes engine >>> being used so far is in the WG Grand Cherokee which has a 2.7 Litre >>> 5 cyl variable vane turbo with electronic injection on a Common Rail >>> system. >>> Awesome engine, pity about the rest of the car. >>> >> My mistake, I didn't realise anyone was daft enough to still use VM >> diesels! > > I think that Jeep are going to integrate the Merc engines when they > can, but Merc wont let them have any other engines. > Mind ewe the VM engines aren't that bad now. > The only ones I've got any experience of are the 2.4 and 2.5 used in Range Rovers for a while - shudder! > Daimler Chrysler give Merc's cast offs to Chrysler Jeep, witness the > Crossfire, an old C type in disguise. Seems to be a fashion for fancy bodies on low-rent chassis a la Audi TT these days. -- Julian --------- = Pretentious Sig required = |
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ColonelTupperware wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 16:25:34 GMT, "Exit" > employed a > troop of monkeys to hit keyboards to produce: > >> ColonelTupperware wrote: >>> On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:29:52 GMT, "Exit" > employed >>> a troop of monkeys to hit keyboards to produce: >>> >>>> R. David Steele wrote: >>>>> I thought that these two were to be coming out this month? >>>>> >>>>> any word on this? >>>> >>>> I'm not sure about the Jeep which uses the Mercedes turbo-diesel >>>> but you won't see the Discovery diesel for a while. >>> >>> The European Jeep Cherokee Diesels (Liberty for US) KJ models are >>> powered by VM Diesels (2.5 for the manual and 2.8 for the Auto, both >>> Common Rail types) not a Mercedes Diesel. The only Mercedes engine >>> being used so far is in the WG Grand Cherokee which has a 2.7 Litre >>> 5 cyl variable vane turbo with electronic injection on a Common Rail >>> system. >>> Awesome engine, pity about the rest of the car. >>> >> My mistake, I didn't realise anyone was daft enough to still use VM >> diesels! > > I think that Jeep are going to integrate the Merc engines when they > can, but Merc wont let them have any other engines. > Mind ewe the VM engines aren't that bad now. > The only ones I've got any experience of are the 2.4 and 2.5 used in Range Rovers for a while - shudder! > Daimler Chrysler give Merc's cast offs to Chrysler Jeep, witness the > Crossfire, an old C type in disguise. Seems to be a fashion for fancy bodies on low-rent chassis a la Audi TT these days. -- Julian --------- = Pretentious Sig required = |
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On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 16:25:34 GMT, "Exit" > employed a
troop of monkeys to hit keyboards to produce: >ColonelTupperware wrote: >> On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:29:52 GMT, "Exit" > employed a >> troop of monkeys to hit keyboards to produce: >> >>> R. David Steele wrote: >>>> I thought that these two were to be coming out this month? >>>> >>>> any word on this? >>> >>> I'm not sure about the Jeep which uses the Mercedes turbo-diesel but >>> you won't see the Discovery diesel for a while. >> >> The European Jeep Cherokee Diesels (Liberty for US) KJ models are >> powered by VM Diesels (2.5 for the manual and 2.8 for the Auto, both >> Common Rail types) not a Mercedes Diesel. The only Mercedes engine >> being used so far is in the WG Grand Cherokee which has a 2.7 Litre 5 >> cyl variable vane turbo with electronic injection on a Common Rail >> system. >> Awesome engine, pity about the rest of the car. >> >My mistake, I didn't realise anyone was daft enough to still use VM diesels! I think that Jeep are going to integrate the Merc engines when they can, but Merc wont let them have any other engines. Mind ewe the VM engines aren't that bad now. Daimler Chrysler give Merc's cast offs to Chrysler Jeep, witness the Crossfire, an old C type in disguise. -- Russ Jeep Technician and Big Hairy Biker |
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ColonelTupperware wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:29:52 GMT, "Exit" > employed a > troop of monkeys to hit keyboards to produce: > >> R. David Steele wrote: >>> I thought that these two were to be coming out this month? >>> >>> any word on this? >> >> I'm not sure about the Jeep which uses the Mercedes turbo-diesel but >> you won't see the Discovery diesel for a while. > > The European Jeep Cherokee Diesels (Liberty for US) KJ models are > powered by VM Diesels (2.5 for the manual and 2.8 for the Auto, both > Common Rail types) not a Mercedes Diesel. The only Mercedes engine > being used so far is in the WG Grand Cherokee which has a 2.7 Litre 5 > cyl variable vane turbo with electronic injection on a Common Rail > system. > Awesome engine, pity about the rest of the car. > My mistake, I didn't realise anyone was daft enough to still use VM diesels! -- Julian --------- = Pretentious Sig required = |
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On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 15:33:49 +0000, ColonelTupperware
> wrote: >:|On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:29:52 GMT, "Exit" > employed a >:|troop of monkeys to hit keyboards to produce: >:| >:|>R. David Steele wrote: >:|>> I thought that these two were to be coming out this month? >:|>> >:|>> any word on this? >:|> >:|>I'm not sure about the Jeep which uses the Mercedes turbo-diesel but you >:|>won't see the Discovery diesel for a while. >:| >:|The European Jeep Cherokee Diesels (Liberty for US) KJ models are >:|powered by VM Diesels (2.5 for the manual and 2.8 for the Auto, both >:|Common Rail types) not a Mercedes Diesel. The only Mercedes engine >:|being used so far is in the WG Grand Cherokee which has a 2.7 Litre 5 >:|cyl variable vane turbo with electronic injection on a Common Rail >:|system. >:|Awesome engine, pity about the rest of the car. >:| >:|No idea of the introduction to the US though. >:|Why would you want a diesel in the US? >:|Doesn't gasoline cost less than the stuff you call beer? ;-) gas is waaaaaaaaay cheaper than beer.... a gal (128 Oz) of gas here (Maine, USA) is currently $1.60US... a 12 (144 Oz) pack of cheap domestic beer is about $7.99. diesel has been cheaper than gas for the last couple of years... it's price has remained rock solid while gas prices do the yo-yo. -Bret |
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On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 19:24:27 -0500, Bret Chase >
employed a troop of monkeys to hit keyboards to produce: >>:| >>:|No idea of the introduction to the US though. >>:|Why would you want a diesel in the US? >>:|Doesn't gasoline cost less than the stuff you call beer? ;-) > >gas is waaaaaaaaay cheaper than beer.... a gal (128 Oz) of gas here >(Maine, USA) is currently $1.60US... a 12 (144 Oz) pack of cheap >domestic beer is about $7.99. diesel has been cheaper than gas for >the last couple of years... it's price has remained rock solid while >gas prices do the yo-yo. > Sheesh Around my neck of the woods, draught beer (real ale not chemicalager) is typically around £2 a pint and Petrol and Diesel is about 80p / litre or about 45p a pint. That's about a quarter of the price of beer. There are more expensive beers of course, but somewhere near £2 will get you a pint of session bitter in most places. I cant work out your quantities in ounces because you use different ounces and gallons to us. How much is your ordinary bar draft beer a US gallon? -- Russ Jeep Technician and Big Hairy Biker |
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