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#31
January 14th 10, 01:52 PM
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"Catman" > wrote in message
... > GT wrote: >> "Catman" > wrote in message >> ... >>> GT wrote: >>>> "Catman" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> GT wrote: >>>>>> "SteveH" > wrote in message >>>>>> . .. >>>>>>> GT > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The 156 takes H1 and H7 bulbs, both 55w. Are car headlights like >>>>>>>> house >>>>>>>> ceiling lights - when not bright enough, can we fit brighter bulbs? >>>>>>>> I see >>>>>>>> some 100w bulbs on eBay, but are there potential heat or fuse or >>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>> problems associated with the wrong wattage bulbs? >>>>>>> HID kit, nothing else comes close. >>>>>> Is HID the same as Xenon? How much work is involved - wiring, bulbs >>>>>> and new light cluster? >>>>> New bulbs, (H7R) and some boxes to plug in. Plus you need to drill >>>>> some holes in the back of the bulb holder. Takes about an hour IME >>>>> >>>>> I had them in the 156, Rachel's GTV and on the bike. Rachel had them >>>>> on the 145 and immediately demanded them on the GTV. >>>>> >>>>> Many of the bulbs advertised on ebay as Xenon will not be HID (which >>>>> use a very high voltage to create an arc between two terminals in a >>>>> (IIRC Xenon) gas filled bulb. >>>>> >>>>> I'd go for 6k 35w >>>>> >>>>> I've used these guys before >>>>> >>>>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/H7R-35w-ULTRA-...em5635123ed 5 >>>>> >>>>> HTH >>>> Is 50w overkill? : >>>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/H7-50w-Digital...em4148d9006 7 >>> I'll let you know later this week if you like. I could only find 50W >>> can-bus for the GT so..... >> >> Yes please >> >>> I am a little worried they'll be too bright. >> >> I will wait a week to hear your verdict before I upgrade... > No worries. > > TBH I'm getting flashed in the GT with the normal bulbs, so I'm reckoning > they are badly adjusted. Currently I have them on -1 setting. Any chance of some before and after photos from the drivers position (obviously at night!)? 
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#32
January 14th 10, 02:17 PM
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GT wrote:
> "Catman" > wrote in message > ... >> GT wrote: >>> "Catman" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> GT wrote: >>>>> "Catman" > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>>> GT wrote: >>>>>>> "SteveH" > wrote in message >>>>>>> . .. >>>>>>>> GT > wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The 156 takes H1 and H7 bulbs, both 55w. Are car headlights like >>>>>>>>> house >>>>>>>>> ceiling lights - when not bright enough, can we fit brighter bulbs? >>>>>>>>> I see >>>>>>>>> some 100w bulbs on eBay, but are there potential heat or fuse or >>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>> problems associated with the wrong wattage bulbs? >>>>>>>> HID kit, nothing else comes close. >>>>>>> Is HID the same as Xenon? How much work is involved - wiring, bulbs >>>>>>> and new light cluster? >>>>>> New bulbs, (H7R) and some boxes to plug in. Plus you need to drill >>>>>> some holes in the back of the bulb holder. Takes about an hour IME >>>>>> >>>>>> I had them in the 156, Rachel's GTV and on the bike. Rachel had them >>>>>> on the 145 and immediately demanded them on the GTV. >>>>>> >>>>>> Many of the bulbs advertised on ebay as Xenon will not be HID (which >>>>>> use a very high voltage to create an arc between two terminals in a >>>>>> (IIRC Xenon) gas filled bulb. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd go for 6k 35w >>>>>> >>>>>> I've used these guys before >>>>>> >>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/H7R-35w-ULTRA-...em5635123ed 5 >>>>>> >>>>>> HTH >>>>> Is 50w overkill? : >>>>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/H7-50w-Digital...em4148d9006 7 >>>> I'll let you know later this week if you like. I could only find 50W >>>> can-bus for the GT so..... >>> Yes please >>> >>>> I am a little worried they'll be too bright. >>> I will wait a week to hear your verdict before I upgrade... >> No worries. >> >> TBH I'm getting flashed in the GT with the normal bulbs, so I'm reckoning >> they are badly adjusted. Currently I have them on -1 setting. > > Any chance of some before and after photos from the drivers position > (obviously at night!)? > > I can try. I doubt very much that it will show much difference without some rather more sophisticated photography techniques than I can bring to bear, simply cos the camera will adjust settings to compensate. Having said that I suppose I could just set it on manual and hope.... -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 GTV TS GT 3.2 V6 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
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#33
January 14th 10, 02:31 PM
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"Catman" > wrote in message
... > GT wrote: >> "Catman" > wrote in message >> ... >>> GT wrote: >>>> "Catman" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> GT wrote: >>>>>> "Catman" > wrote in message >>>>>> ... >>>>>>> GT wrote: >>>>>>>> "SteveH" > wrote in message >>>>>>>> . .. >>>>>>>>> GT > wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The 156 takes H1 and H7 bulbs, both 55w. Are car headlights like >>>>>>>>>> house >>>>>>>>>> ceiling lights - when not bright enough, can we fit brighter >>>>>>>>>> bulbs? I see >>>>>>>>>> some 100w bulbs on eBay, but are there potential heat or fuse or >>>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>>> problems associated with the wrong wattage bulbs? >>>>>>>>> HID kit, nothing else comes close. >>>>>>>> Is HID the same as Xenon? How much work is involved - wiring, bulbs >>>>>>>> and new light cluster? >>>>>>> New bulbs, (H7R) and some boxes to plug in. Plus you need to drill >>>>>>> some holes in the back of the bulb holder. Takes about an hour IME >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I had them in the 156, Rachel's GTV and on the bike. Rachel had them >>>>>>> on the 145 and immediately demanded them on the GTV. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Many of the bulbs advertised on ebay as Xenon will not be HID (which >>>>>>> use a very high voltage to create an arc between two terminals in a >>>>>>> (IIRC Xenon) gas filled bulb. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd go for 6k 35w >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've used these guys before >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/H7R-35w-ULTRA-...em5635123ed 5 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> HTH >>>>>> Is 50w overkill? : >>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/H7-50w-Digital...em4148d9006 7 >>>>> I'll let you know later this week if you like. I could only find 50W >>>>> can-bus for the GT so..... >>>> Yes please >>>> >>>>> I am a little worried they'll be too bright. >>>> I will wait a week to hear your verdict before I upgrade... >>> No worries. >>> >>> TBH I'm getting flashed in the GT with the normal bulbs, so I'm >>> reckoning they are badly adjusted. Currently I have them on -1 setting. >> >> Any chance of some before and after photos from the drivers position >> (obviously at night!)? > I can try. I doubt very much that it will show much difference without > some rather more sophisticated photography techniques than I can bring to > bear, simply cos the camera will adjust settings to compensate. > > Having said that I suppose I could just set it on manual and hope.... Thanks, but don't go to too much trouble.
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#34
January 20th 10, 05:53 PM
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GT wrote:
> "Catman" > wrote in message > ... >> GT wrote: >>> "Catman" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> GT wrote: >>>>> "Catman" > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>>> GT wrote: >>>>>>> "Catman" > wrote in message >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> GT wrote: >>>>>>>>> "SteveH" > wrote in message >>>>>>>>> . .. >>>>>>>>>> GT > wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The 156 takes H1 and H7 bulbs, both 55w. Are car headlights like >>>>>>>>>>> house >>>>>>>>>>> ceiling lights - when not bright enough, can we fit brighter >>>>>>>>>>> bulbs? I see >>>>>>>>>>> some 100w bulbs on eBay, but are there potential heat or fuse or >>>>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>>>> problems associated with the wrong wattage bulbs? >>>>>>>>>> HID kit, nothing else comes close. >>>>>>>>> Is HID the same as Xenon? How much work is involved - wiring, bulbs >>>>>>>>> and new light cluster? >>>>>>>> New bulbs, (H7R) and some boxes to plug in. Plus you need to drill >>>>>>>> some holes in the back of the bulb holder. Takes about an hour IME >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I had them in the 156, Rachel's GTV and on the bike. Rachel had them >>>>>>>> on the 145 and immediately demanded them on the GTV. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Many of the bulbs advertised on ebay as Xenon will not be HID (which >>>>>>>> use a very high voltage to create an arc between two terminals in a >>>>>>>> (IIRC Xenon) gas filled bulb. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'd go for 6k 35w >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've used these guys before >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/H7R-35w-ULTRA-...em5635123ed 5 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> HTH >>>>>>> Is 50w overkill? : >>>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/H7-50w-Digital...em4148d9006 7 >>>>>> I'll let you know later this week if you like. I could only find 50W >>>>>> can-bus for the GT so..... >>>>> Yes please >>>>> >>>>>> I am a little worried they'll be too bright. >>>>> I will wait a week to hear your verdict before I upgrade... >>>> No worries. >>>> >>>> TBH I'm getting flashed in the GT with the normal bulbs, so I'm >>>> reckoning they are badly adjusted. Currently I have them on -1 setting. >>> Any chance of some before and after photos from the drivers position >>> (obviously at night!)? >> I can try. I doubt very much that it will show much difference without >> some rather more sophisticated photography techniques than I can bring to >> bear, simply cos the camera will adjust settings to compensate. >> >> Having said that I suppose I could just set it on manual and hope.... > > Thanks, but don't go to too much trouble. > > I didn't. It was too cold and too hard. There's not much room under that bonnet, and a *BLOODY* stupid bulb retaining mechanism[1] I still need to drill the back of the light units and thread the wire / grommet through, but that can happen tomorrow. [1] It's actually OK if you can see[2] what you're doing. Which if course you can't. [2] And [3] if there's sufficient room behind the cluster to get your hands in, which of cours there isn't [3] And if you don't have to remove the retaining spring because the HID bulbs have the cable attached and it needs threading through the closed loop spring. Which of course it does. One day I shall meet some Alfa engineers.... -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 GTV TS GT 3.2 V6 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
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#35
January 20th 10, 07:42 PM
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"Catman" > wrote in message
... > GT wrote: >> "Catman" > wrote in message >> ... >>> GT wrote: >>>> "Catman" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> GT wrote: >>>>>> "Catman" > wrote in message >>>>>> ... >>>>>>> GT wrote: >>>>>>>> "Catman" > wrote in message >>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>> GT wrote: >>>>>>>>>> "SteveH" > wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> . .. >>>>>>>>>>> GT > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The 156 takes H1 and H7 bulbs, both 55w. Are car headlights >>>>>>>>>>>> like house >>>>>>>>>>>> ceiling lights - when not bright enough, can we fit brighter >>>>>>>>>>>> bulbs? I see >>>>>>>>>>>> some 100w bulbs on eBay, but are there potential heat or fuse >>>>>>>>>>>> or other >>>>>>>>>>>> problems associated with the wrong wattage bulbs? >>>>>>>>>>> HID kit, nothing else comes close. >>>>>>>>>> Is HID the same as Xenon? How much work is involved - wiring, >>>>>>>>>> bulbs and new light cluster? >>>>>>>>> New bulbs, (H7R) and some boxes to plug in. Plus you need to drill >>>>>>>>> some holes in the back of the bulb holder. Takes about an hour >>>>>>>>> IME >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I had them in the 156, Rachel's GTV and on the bike. Rachel had >>>>>>>>> them on the 145 and immediately demanded them on the GTV. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Many of the bulbs advertised on ebay as Xenon will not be HID >>>>>>>>> (which use a very high voltage to create an arc between two >>>>>>>>> terminals in a (IIRC Xenon) gas filled bulb. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'd go for 6k 35w >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've used these guys before >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/H7R-35w-ULTRA-...em5635123ed 5 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> HTH >>>>>>>> Is 50w overkill? : >>>>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/H7-50w-Digital...em4148d9006 7 >>>>>>> I'll let you know later this week if you like. I could only find 50W >>>>>>> can-bus for the GT so..... >>>>>> Yes please >>>>>> >>>>>>> I am a little worried they'll be too bright. >>>>>> I will wait a week to hear your verdict before I upgrade... >>>>> No worries. >>>>> >>>>> TBH I'm getting flashed in the GT with the normal bulbs, so I'm >>>>> reckoning they are badly adjusted. Currently I have them on -1 >>>>> setting. >>>> Any chance of some before and after photos from the drivers position >>>> (obviously at night!)? >>> I can try. I doubt very much that it will show much difference without >>> some rather more sophisticated photography techniques than I can bring >>> to bear, simply cos the camera will adjust settings to compensate. >>> >>> Having said that I suppose I could just set it on manual and hope.... >> >> Thanks, but don't go to too much trouble. > > I didn't. It was too cold and too hard. There's not much room under that > bonnet, and a *BLOODY* stupid bulb retaining mechanism[1] > > I still need to drill the back of the light units and thread the wire / > grommet through, but that can happen tomorrow. > > [1] It's actually OK if you can see[2] what you're doing. Which if course > you can't. > [2] And [3] if there's sufficient room behind the cluster to get your > hands in, which of cours there isn't > [3] And if you don't have to remove the retaining spring because the HID > bulbs have the cable attached and it needs threading through the closed > loop spring. Which of course it does. Hmm - you're not selling it well here! > One day I shall meet some Alfa engineers.... I have changed the headlight bulbs on mine before - cost me 3 knuckles and about 30 minutes! Sounds like this procedure is similar, but with a few more steps!
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#36
January 20th 10, 09:01 PM
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GT wrote:
>> I didn't. It was too cold and too hard. There's not much room under that >> bonnet, and a *BLOODY* stupid bulb retaining mechanism[1] >> >> I still need to drill the back of the light units and thread the wire / >> grommet through, but that can happen tomorrow. >> >> [1] It's actually OK if you can see[2] what you're doing. Which if course >> you can't. >> [2] And [3] if there's sufficient room behind the cluster to get your >> hands in, which of cours there isn't >> [3] And if you don't have to remove the retaining spring because the HID >> bulbs have the cable attached and it needs threading through the closed >> loop spring. Which of course it does. > > Hmm - you're not selling it well here! > I thought you had a 156? They are *much* easier. >> One day I shall meet some Alfa engineers.... > > I have changed the headlight bulbs on mine before - cost me 3 knuckles and > about 30 minutes! Sounds like this procedure is similar, but with a few more > steps! For the 156 it was about 30 mins start to finish. The retaining springs are much better, there is more room behind the clusters and more room to mount the ballast boxes. GT lights are much improved  -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 GTV TS GT 3.2 V6 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
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#37
January 21st 10, 04:45 PM
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"Catman" > wrote in message
... > GT wrote: > >>> I didn't. It was too cold and too hard. There's not much room under that >>> bonnet, and a *BLOODY* stupid bulb retaining mechanism[1] >>> >>> I still need to drill the back of the light units and thread the wire / >>> grommet through, but that can happen tomorrow. >>> >>> [1] It's actually OK if you can see[2] what you're doing. Which if >>> course you can't. >>> [2] And [3] if there's sufficient room behind the cluster to get your >>> hands in, which of cours there isn't >>> [3] And if you don't have to remove the retaining spring because the HID >>> bulbs have the cable attached and it needs threading through the closed >>> loop spring. Which of course it does. >> >> Hmm - you're not selling it well here! >> > > I thought you had a 156? They are *much* easier. Hell, the GT must have been a tough job then. I didn't like changing the bulb on the 156! >>> One day I shall meet some Alfa engineers.... >> >> I have changed the headlight bulbs on mine before - cost me 3 knuckles >> and about 30 minutes! Sounds like this procedure is similar, but with a >> few more steps! > > For the 156 it was about 30 mins start to finish. The retaining springs > are much better, there is more room behind the clusters and more room to > mount the ballast boxes. > > GT lights are much improved Worth £70 then?
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#38
January 21st 10, 05:03 PM
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> "Catman" > wrote in message > ... >> GT wrote: >> >>>> I didn't. It was too cold and too hard. There's not much room under that >>>> bonnet, and a *BLOODY* stupid bulb retaining mechanism[1] >>>> >>>> I still need to drill the back of the light units and thread the wire / >>>> grommet through, but that can happen tomorrow. >>>> >>>> [1] It's actually OK if you can see[2] what you're doing. Which if >>>> course you can't. >>>> [2] And [3] if there's sufficient room behind the cluster to get your >>>> hands in, which of cours there isn't >>>> [3] And if you don't have to remove the retaining spring because the HID >>>> bulbs have the cable attached and it needs threading through the closed >>>> loop spring. Which of course it does. >>> Hmm - you're not selling it well here! >>> >> I thought you had a 156? They are *much* easier. > > Hell, the GT must have been a tough job then. I didn't like changing the > bulb on the 156! > Really? The dipped beam, or the sidelights? I won't touch the sidelights on a 156 >>>> One day I shall meet some Alfa engineers.... >>> I have changed the headlight bulbs on mine before - cost me 3 knuckles >>> and about 30 minutes! Sounds like this procedure is similar, but with a >>> few more steps! >> For the 156 it was about 30 mins start to finish. The retaining springs >> are much better, there is more room behind the clusters and more room to >> mount the ballast boxes. >> >> GT lights are much improved > > Worth £70 then? I think so, but why pay £70? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/XENON-HID-CONV...em3efc10553 f HTH > > -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 GTV TS GT 3.2 V6 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
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January 21st 10, 05:05 PM
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<snip> > > > I think so, but why pay £70? > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/XENON-HID-CONV...em3efc10553 f > > Arse. Just recalled the 156 needs H7R's http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/H7R-35w-ULTRA-...em5635123ed 5 Just under £60 -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 GTV TS GT 3.2 V6 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
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