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'89 Tempo/Topaz Fan Control Module Q
Have an A/C-equipped '89 Tempo/Topaz with an inoperative radiator fan.
I jumpered the fan to the battery, it works. I jumpered the relay on the drivers side headlight, it clicks and my multimeter says it has continuity when energized. I also tested the coolant temp sensor near the thermostat and it has continuity when the engine is hot. According to the Haynes, that leaves the cooling fan controller behind the glove compartment. The book does not describe any testing procedure, is this one of those replace-and-hope-that-was-it kind of parts? The kind of auto repair that I hate? Any advice is appreciated. Thanks!! P.S. And why did Ford need such a complicated fan system, anyway? How about a relay to kick in the fan when the A/C was on, the engine was hot, or both? Seems to be a whole lot easier and cheaper to me! |
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'89 Tempo/Topaz Fan Control Module Q
> wrote in message ups.com... > Have an A/C-equipped '89 Tempo/Topaz with an inoperative radiator fan. > I jumpered the fan to the battery, it works. I jumpered the relay on > the drivers side headlight, it clicks and my multimeter says it has > continuity when energized. I also tested the coolant temp sensor near > the thermostat and it has continuity when the engine is hot. > > According to the Haynes, that leaves the cooling fan controller behind > the glove compartment. The book does not describe any testing > procedure, is this one of those replace-and-hope-that-was-it kind of > parts? The kind of auto repair that I hate? > I can't even attempt to rationalize the Ford engineer's reasons for the fan controller design, but I can tell you that when you find the relay and look at the wiring harness connector you will see that it is practically melted from the current going through the fan power supply wire. The relay may still be good, but the terminal in the connector will most likely be burnt. At least that has been my experience with that particular model. I would say the design is flawed in that it doesn't hold up to the heat caused by the cooling fan current once the fan gets a little older and starts drawing a few more amps that it should. Proper diagnosis should include checking the fan current draw to make sure it is not above factory specification and perform voltage drop tests across the harness connections to make sure there is not any resistance that could cause them to heat up and melt the connector. -- Kevin Mouton Automotive Technology Instructor "If women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy" Red Green > Any advice is appreciated. Thanks!! > > P.S. And why did Ford need such a complicated fan system, anyway? How > about a relay to kick in the fan when the A/C was on, the engine was > hot, or both? Seems to be a whole lot easier and cheaper to me! > |
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'89 Tempo/Topaz Fan Control Module Q
> from the current going through the fan power supply wire. The relay may
> still be good, but the terminal in the connector will most likely be burnt. Hmmm. I didn't see any burned connectors but then again, I wasn't looking for any. I'll double check and probably hit the junkyard for the parts, hey value priced parts for a value priced car. Thanks Kevin for the info! |
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'89 Tempo/Topaz Fan Control Module Q
On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 20:59:19 -0700, > wrote:
> Have an A/C-equipped '89 Tempo/Topaz with an inoperative radiator fan. > I jumpered the fan to the battery, it works. I jumpered the relay on > the drivers side headlight, it clicks and my multimeter says it has > continuity when energized. I also tested the coolant temp sensor near > the thermostat and it has continuity when the engine is hot. > > According to the Haynes, that leaves the cooling fan controller behind > the glove compartment. The book does not describe any testing > procedure, is this one of those replace-and-hope-that-was-it kind of > parts? The kind of auto repair that I hate? > > Any advice is appreciated. Thanks!! > > P.S. And why did Ford need such a complicated fan system, anyway? How > about a relay to kick in the fan when the A/C was on, the engine was > hot, or both? Seems to be a whole lot easier and cheaper to me! > The cooling fan controller on those cars was notorious for failing. There is a good chance when you pull it you will see the plastic is melted at the plug contacts. If everything else works and the fan still doesn't come on you have pretty well isolated the problem to it by process of elimination. If you can't find one that's any good it is possible to replace it with two generic SPDT relays. In my experience they will outperform the OEM part. Sorry but I don't remember the wiring particulars it's been years since I've worked on one of them. It's a simple circuit though. If you can find a schematic you should be able to figure it out. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ |
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'89 Tempo/Topaz Fan Control Module Q
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:27:34 -0700, > wrote:
>> from the current going through the fan power supply wire. The relay may >> still be good, but the terminal in the connector will most likely be >> burnt. > > Hmmm. I didn't see any burned connectors but then again, I wasn't > looking for any. I'll double check and probably hit the junkyard for > the parts, hey value priced parts for a value priced car. > > Thanks Kevin for the info! > Those controllers are usually bad from the junkyard if you can find a junkyard that hasn't crushed them all already anyway. My solution was to duplicate it's function with two discreet SPDT relays. As memory serves it took about 10 minutes to analyze the circuit and wire it up from scratch, that's with a good schematic. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ |
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'89 Tempo/Topaz Fan Control Module Q
Thanks again guys. I finally dug into it some more and realized I
wasn't getting +12VDC to the harness where the relay plugs in. Traced it back to a blown fusible link. The fan works now... finally! I guess next time I'll check one more thing before throwing up my hands. |
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