To The BP Boycotters....

In article >,
says...

> >The difference *is* that big here.
>
> Not true - see below.

Seriously, Scott, my reaction when I saw you using Google Maps as proof
was... specifically... "What the hell, are you an idiot?!"

Do you think I am not capable of reading the signs I *drive past every
day?*

> >Chevron at the intersection of La Paz and Roy Rogers, at the end of
the
> >15 Northbound onramp - 20c more
>
> $2.03/gallon - CHEAPER than the Arco:

Ahhhh, no.

Never.

Not since I've lived in the neighborhood, they're not.* It's always been
Arco - Shell - Chevron, in order from cheapest to most expensive.

Did you consider that those photos may or may not have been snapped at
the same time? And... $2/gallon? When was the last time SoCal gas was
$2/gallon???

> Now, please put down the crack pipe.

Instead, why don't you roll up here for a little while and check out
actual prices? If I put down the crack pipe for any length of time, I'll
probably go into withdrawal. :P


--
Steve Sobol, Victorville, California, USA

>
> You can't boycott the government.
>

But you sure as hell can BUY them
http://thinkprogress.org/?p=100377

BP And Halliburton Build Legal Teams, Attempt To Buy Off Government
Officials

Facing possible jail time for their roles in the largest oil spill in
American history, BP and Halliburton are building high-powered legal
teams with “deep Department of Justice and White House ties.” But the
companies are pursuing other means to defend themselves as well.

Halliburton’s campaign donations have spiked as it tries to curry
favor with key members of Congress investigating the disaster. The
company donated $17,000 in May, making it “the busiest donation month
for Halliburton’s PAC since September 2008,” Politico reports.
Thirteen of the 14 contributions from May went to Republicans, while
seven went to members of Congress who are “on committees with
oversight of the oil spill and its aftermath”:

About one week before executive Timothy Probert appeared before the
House Energy and Commerce’s investigative subcommittee, Halliburton
donated $1,500 to Ranking Republican Joe Barton’s reelection effort.
It was Halliburton’s second-largest donation of the month — topped
only by $2,500 to former Rep. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.), who is running for
the Senate.

In the Senate, Idaho Republican Mike Crapo, who serves on the
Environment and Public Works Committee, Georgia Republican Johnny
Isakson, who serves on the Commerce Committee and North Carolina
Republican Richard Burr (N.C.), who serves on the Energy and Natural
Resources Committee, all got $1,000. Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) also
got $1,000.

Maybe if the feds spent more time trying to come up with a solution, working
jointly with BP, instead of trying to put someone in jail for a simple accident,
this thing would be solved more quickly. I am sick and tired of the government
grandstanding in this. Instead of pointing fingers and criticizing BP's business
decisions, government officials ought to be trying to find a way to fix the
situation.


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In article >,
rictorplate says...
>
> Maybe if the feds spent more time trying to come up with a solution, working
> jointly with BP, instead of trying to put someone in jail for a simple accident,
> this thing would be solved more quickly. I am sick and tired of the government
> grandstanding in this. Instead of pointing fingers and criticizing BP's business
> decisions, government officials ought to be trying to find a way to fix the
> situation.

I agree that the primary focus should be fixing the problem, but I also
believe that this is not just a "simple accident."

It was a conscious decision on the part of people in charge of the rig,
to do things a certain way.

--
Steve Sobol, Victorville, California, USA

In article >,
says...

> >Not since I've lived in the neighborhood, they're not.* It's always been
> >Arco - Shell - Chevron, in order from cheapest to most expensive.
> >

(Forgot the footnote: *I've lived in this area for about 3 1/2 years.)


> Clearly more data is called for.

Right, because I have no clue what I'm talking about.

*sigh* You're just trolling... I'm done arguing with you...


--
Steve Sobol, Victorville, California, USA

On 06/05/10 18:41, Scott in SoCal wrote:

> Last time on rec.autos.driving, Steve >
> said:
>
>>I have zero problems with the quality of the product - my problems with
>>BP are strictly related to customer service. The gas works as well as
>>anyone else's, so why would I want to pay 10c or, in the case of
>>Chevron, 20c/gallon more? That's just stupid.
>
> The difference isn't anywhere near that much - more like 3c/gallon
> IME.

Huh? 3 cents difference between Arco and one of the 'regular' stations? Not
for quite a while.

<http://www.losangelesgasprices.com/index.aspx?s=Y&fuel=A&area=Alhambra&area=Arcadia&a rea=Pasadena&area=Temple+City&station=ARCO&station =Costco&station=Sam%27s+Club&station=Shell&tme_lim it=48&site=LosAngeles&srch=0&list=0>


> I can afford to pay a few extra pennies for the convenience of
> paying at the pump and not having to stand in lines or carry a bunch
> of cash around. Plus, my credit cards all pay me cash rebates, which
> offsets the extra cost.

I try to buy gas at Costco (lower prices AND a 3% rebate) whenever I can,
otherwise Arco for cash.

> I'm not one of those people who will drive around all over town
> looking for which gas station has gas a few cents cheaper. My time is
> more valuable than that, and it's more valuable than waiting in line
> at a crowded gas station full of penny-pinchers.

25 cents a gallon on 17 gallons = what I regard as a significant amount of
money rather than a few pennies.

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"H.B. Elkins" > wrote in message
...
> Maybe if the feds spent more time trying to come up with a solution, working
> jointly with BP, instead of trying to put someone in jail for a simple
> accident,
> this thing would be solved more quickly. I am sick and tired of the
> government
> grandstanding in this. Instead of pointing fingers and criticizing BP's
> business
> decisions, government officials ought to be trying to find a way to fix the
> situation.
>

W.W.B.D

What Would Bush Do?

"You're doing a fine job, Brownie"

On 6 Jun 2010 21:06:23 -0700, H.B. Elkins
> wrote:

>Maybe if the feds spent more time trying to come up with a solution, working
>jointly with BP, instead of trying to put someone in jail for a simple accident,
>this thing would be solved more quickly. I am sick and tired of the government
>grandstanding in this. Instead of pointing fingers and criticizing BP's business
>decisions, government officials ought to be trying to find a way to fix the
>situation.

Based on the Wall Street Journal articles (hardly a left wing rag)
that I have read, the BP operation was a disaster waiting to happen.
Check them out in your local library or if you have an online
subscription read them online.

Clark Morris

On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 00:16:37 +0000 (UTC), Nobody important
> wrote:

>necromancer <Zidane's_Last_Red_Card@worldofnecromancer_no_spam _no_way.org>
>wrote in :
>
>> ...Please do get together and go ahead with your boycott of BP
>> stations. I'll be sure to patronize the BP stations that you are
>> shunning and I will enjoy being able to simply cruise up to the pump,
>> get my gas, candy bar, beer and whatever else I need and be on my way
>> while you are still waiting in line at the station across the street.
>
>Hmmm... I can't remember the last time I had to wait in line at _any_ gas
>station.

Me neither, because if I see a line - which I do from time to time;
oddly enough where I am it is at a BP station that is generally the
lowest price in the area - I continue on to find a station with no
wait to call for petrol.
--
"Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job."
--Former President George W Bush

On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 19:31:08 -0700, Steve Sobol >
wrote:

>In article >,
>Zidane's_Last_Red_Card@worldofnecromancer_no_spam _no_way.org says...
>>
>> ...Please do get together and go ahead with your boycott of BP
>> stations. I'll be sure to patronize the BP stations that you are
>> shunning and I will enjoy being able to simply cruise up to the pump,
>> get my gas, candy bar, beer and whatever else I need and be on my way
>> while you are still waiting in line at the station across the street.
>>
>>
>
>
>You have fun with that.

Sadly, I don't get to as the local BP usually is the lowest price and
there is generally a line at the pumps. That means that I go to
Hugo's* down the street and fill up there. Their price is usually
about US$0.05 to US$0.06 higher, but since I usually only take about 5
to 6 gallons, the extra US$0.50 or so is worth it not to wait.


* Hugo's = Citgo

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