Poor AM Radio reception in A4

So sorry. When you said > >> Any ideas on how the radio could be adjusted
<<<
I thought you were looking for ways to get the AM to work.

Since you are hands-off, and have no real interest in DIY, and don't expect
to do a damn thig for
4 years, you may want to take the vehicle to the dealer. Oh, wait, you did
that, didn't you?

Well, good luck on your quest.


The dealer will REPLACE
"Cam Newton" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 20 May 2004 11:10:29 GMT, "FY" > wrote:
>
> >Pull the radio and check the grounds and antenna connections behind the
> >unit.
> >You can pull it out far enough to move the wiring around, with the radio
on,
> >and see if it makes a difference.
> >Bad grounding will kill the AM, but FM will still be working.
> >
> >
>
> This will be for the dealer to do. I put gas and washer fluid in the
> thing and nothing else. I am a hands-off owner because I don't have
> the tools or real interest in DIY. And because of the warranty, I do
> not expect to do a damn thing at least for 4 years and generally for
> the entire time I own the vehicle. But I am v interested in how the
> vehicle functions, I just don't want to DIY.
>
> >
> >
> >"Cam Newton" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> 2004 A4 Canadian model with very poor AM reception. Dealer told me it
> >> is because the antenna is in the rear window. Bad excuse. FM is great.
> >>
> >>
> >> I have used the AS mode on the radio and it is the same reception;
> >> that mode simply tells you what are the best six channels but does
> >> nothing to improve reception.
> >>
> >> Any ideas on how the radio could be adjusted or is there an after
> >> market thing that might help.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>

On Fri, 21 May 2004 14:53:24 GMT, "FY" > wrote:

I am a disciple of Adam Smith and Ricardo WRT to the specialization of
labour and comparative advantage.

Here is the reply from the sales guy at the dealer:

"Charlie showed me a technical diagram of the antenna on your A4, it
is radically different from the previous A4. Thus that fix will not be
possible. If the computer showed no fault with your antenna system
then it is working as it was designed. When the car companies decide
to work on aerodynamics and remove the mounted antenna in favour of a
window mount, the result is a more streamlined car, and a little less
reception in radio signal. "

Now I am looking for a little booster that can be plugged into the
system.


>So sorry. When you said > >> Any ideas on how the radio could be adjusted
><<<
>I thought you were looking for ways to get the AM to work.
>
>Since you are hands-off, and have no real interest in DIY, and don't expect
>to do a damn thig for
>4 years, you may want to take the vehicle to the dealer. Oh, wait, you did
>that, didn't you?
>
>Well, good luck on your quest.
>
>
>The dealer will REPLACE
>"Cam Newton" > wrote in message
...
>> On Thu, 20 May 2004 11:10:29 GMT, "FY" > wrote:
>>
>> >Pull the radio and check the grounds and antenna connections behind the
>> >unit.
>> >You can pull it out far enough to move the wiring around, with the radio
>on,
>> >and see if it makes a difference.
>> >Bad grounding will kill the AM, but FM will still be working.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> This will be for the dealer to do. I put gas and washer fluid in the
>> thing and nothing else. I am a hands-off owner because I don't have
>> the tools or real interest in DIY. And because of the warranty, I do
>> not expect to do a damn thing at least for 4 years and generally for
>> the entire time I own the vehicle. But I am v interested in how the
>> vehicle functions, I just don't want to DIY.
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >"Cam Newton" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> 2004 A4 Canadian model with very poor AM reception. Dealer told me it
>> >> is because the antenna is in the rear window. Bad excuse. FM is great.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I have used the AS mode on the radio and it is the same reception;
>> >> that mode simply tells you what are the best six channels but does
>> >> nothing to improve reception.
>> >>
>> >> Any ideas on how the radio could be adjusted or is there an after
>> >> market thing that might help.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>

Cam,
Well hey, if the 'puter says everything is ok, then it must be....right?
Maybe they should have closed all the windows, shut the car down and then
started it up and opened all the windows up again to be sure.....sorry, that
was the punchline to the joke, but it seemed appropriate....
The window mounted aerial uses an amplifier in the C-pillar - even the Type
44's (100,200,V8) of the early 90's had those. "radically different"???
wha? Was he looking at a circuit diagram or something? Sure, nothing works
like metal in air, but obviously others had the problem and they solved it -
bad grounds or connections at the amplifier. His reply sounds more like a
"we don't want to be shown as wrong....so you should drop it". The booster
you're looking for is already in your car - make it work and show how much
they care for you.... That's why I do most of my own work - I care more
than anybody. Sure, I didn't go to Audi school to be trained to work on my
Type 44 (/Type 43/Type F-11 800), but then again, neither did most of the
folks working at the Audi shops now. A bad ground or flaky connection has
nothing to with specialization - the mechanics know that you'll freak out if
they spend 2 hour$ tracing a loose wire.
"Thus that fix will not be possible"....that's giving it the ol' College
Try.....
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ - Type 44 - sing with me...."The License Plate bulb is
connected to the Dash Lights...."
1980 Audi 5k - Type 43...."The Dash Lights are connected to the Front Turn
Signals...."
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes - Type F-11 800...."The Reverse
Lights are connected to the Parking Lights....."
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"Cam Newton" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 21 May 2004 14:53:24 GMT, "FY" > wrote:
>
> I am a disciple of Adam Smith and Ricardo WRT to the specialization of
> labour and comparative advantage.
>
> Here is the reply from the sales guy at the dealer:
>
> "Charlie showed me a technical diagram of the antenna on your A4, it
> is radically different from the previous A4. Thus that fix will not be
> possible. If the computer showed no fault with your antenna system
> then it is working as it was designed. When the car companies decide
> to work on aerodynamics and remove the mounted antenna in favour of a
> window mount, the result is a more streamlined car, and a little less
> reception in radio signal. "
>
> Now I am looking for a little booster that can be plugged into the
> system.
>
>
> >So sorry. When you said > >> Any ideas on how the radio could be adjusted
> ><<<
> >I thought you were looking for ways to get the AM to work.
> >
> >Since you are hands-off, and have no real interest in DIY, and don't
expect
> >to do a damn thig for
> >4 years, you may want to take the vehicle to the dealer. Oh, wait, you
did
> >that, didn't you?
> >
> >Well, good luck on your quest.
> >
> >
> >The dealer will REPLACE
> >"Cam Newton" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> On Thu, 20 May 2004 11:10:29 GMT, "FY" > wrote:
> >>
> >> >Pull the radio and check the grounds and antenna connections behind
the
> >> >unit.
> >> >You can pull it out far enough to move the wiring around, with the
radio
> >on,
> >> >and see if it makes a difference.
> >> >Bad grounding will kill the AM, but FM will still be working.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> This will be for the dealer to do. I put gas and washer fluid in the
> >> thing and nothing else. I am a hands-off owner because I don't have
> >> the tools or real interest in DIY. And because of the warranty, I do
> >> not expect to do a damn thing at least for 4 years and generally for
> >> the entire time I own the vehicle. But I am v interested in how the
> >> vehicle functions, I just don't want to DIY.
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Cam Newton" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >> 2004 A4 Canadian model with very poor AM reception. Dealer told me
it
> >> >> is because the antenna is in the rear window. Bad excuse. FM is
great.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I have used the AS mode on the radio and it is the same reception;
> >> >> that mode simply tells you what are the best six channels but does
> >> >> nothing to improve reception.
> >> >>
> >> >> Any ideas on how the radio could be adjusted or is there an after
> >> >> market thing that might help.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>

On Fri, 21 May 2004 14:27:10 -0400, "Steve Sears"
> wrote:

Thanks. I am no wimp when it comes to demanding satisfaction. My sales
guy assures me he will help me. Time for the rubber to hit the road.

I am going to copy (and edit) your post and send it over. The dealer
is about a two minute walk from my office. They will hear me coming; I
won't remind them until I need to that the original tubo failed at
about 800 km and a couple of other annoyances that they have dealt
with but not to 100%.


>Cam,
>Well hey, if the 'puter says everything is ok, then it must be....right?
>Maybe they should have closed all the windows, shut the car down and then
>started it up and opened all the windows up again to be sure.....sorry, that
>was the punchline to the joke, but it seemed appropriate....
>The window mounted aerial uses an amplifier in the C-pillar - even the Type
>44's (100,200,V8) of the early 90's had those. "radically different"???
>wha? Was he looking at a circuit diagram or something? Sure, nothing works
>like metal in air, but obviously others had the problem and they solved it -
>bad grounds or connections at the amplifier. His reply sounds more like a
>"we don't want to be shown as wrong....so you should drop it". The booster
>you're looking for is already in your car - make it work and show how much
>they care for you.... That's why I do most of my own work - I care more
>than anybody. Sure, I didn't go to Audi school to be trained to work on my
>Type 44 (/Type 43/Type F-11 800), but then again, neither did most of the
>folks working at the Audi shops now. A bad ground or flaky connection has
>nothing to with specialization - the mechanics know that you'll freak out if
>they spend 2 hour$ tracing a loose wire.
>"Thus that fix will not be possible"....that's giving it the ol' College
>Try.....
>Cheers!
>Steve Sears
>1987 Audi 5kTQ - Type 44 - sing with me...."The License Plate bulb is
>connected to the Dash Lights...."
>1980 Audi 5k - Type 43...."The Dash Lights are connected to the Front Turn
>Signals...."
>1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes - Type F-11 800...."The Reverse
>Lights are connected to the Parking Lights....."
>(SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
>"Cam Newton" > wrote in message
...
>> On Fri, 21 May 2004 14:53:24 GMT, "FY" > wrote:
>>
>> I am a disciple of Adam Smith and Ricardo WRT to the specialization of
>> labour and comparative advantage.
>>
>> Here is the reply from the sales guy at the dealer:
>>
>> "Charlie showed me a technical diagram of the antenna on your A4, it
>> is radically different from the previous A4. Thus that fix will not be
>> possible. If the computer showed no fault with your antenna system
>> then it is working as it was designed. When the car companies decide
>> to work on aerodynamics and remove the mounted antenna in favour of a
>> window mount, the result is a more streamlined car, and a little less
>> reception in radio signal. "
>>
>> Now I am looking for a little booster that can be plugged into the
>> system.
>>
>>
>> >So sorry. When you said > >> Any ideas on how the radio could be adjusted
>> ><<<
>> >I thought you were looking for ways to get the AM to work.
>> >
>> >Since you are hands-off, and have no real interest in DIY, and don't
>expect
>> >to do a damn thig for
>> >4 years, you may want to take the vehicle to the dealer. Oh, wait, you
>did
>> >that, didn't you?
>> >
>> >Well, good luck on your quest.
>> >
>> >
>> >The dealer will REPLACE
>> >"Cam Newton" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> On Thu, 20 May 2004 11:10:29 GMT, "FY" > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Pull the radio and check the grounds and antenna connections behind
>the
>> >> >unit.
>> >> >You can pull it out far enough to move the wiring around, with the
>radio
>> >on,
>> >> >and see if it makes a difference.
>> >> >Bad grounding will kill the AM, but FM will still be working.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> This will be for the dealer to do. I put gas and washer fluid in the
>> >> thing and nothing else. I am a hands-off owner because I don't have
>> >> the tools or real interest in DIY. And because of the warranty, I do
>> >> not expect to do a damn thing at least for 4 years and generally for
>> >> the entire time I own the vehicle. But I am v interested in how the
>> >> vehicle functions, I just don't want to DIY.
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"Cam Newton" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> >> 2004 A4 Canadian model with very poor AM reception. Dealer told me
>it
>> >> >> is because the antenna is in the rear window. Bad excuse. FM is
>great.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have used the AS mode on the radio and it is the same reception;
>> >> >> that mode simply tells you what are the best six channels but does
>> >> >> nothing to improve reception.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Any ideas on how the radio could be adjusted or is there an after
>> >> >> market thing that might help.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>

On Fri, 21 May 2004 14:27:10 -0400, "Steve Sears"
> wrote:


I sent your reply to the sales idiot at the dealer and got this reply:


"I don't care what this person says, He is not an Certified Audi
Tech, he has no training, minimal experience, and improper tools and
resources. He puts judgements on me and my co-workers, based on the
what experience ? Does he have a 2004? Does he know me? No.

I am disappointed that you would post my response on the internet, but
I am confident with what I said. I thought that we where friends but
it is now obvious that you don't trust me and I suggest that you deal
with service directly from now on."


I told him that I posted his 'reply' anonymously. I need to learn him
some English and help him improve his reading skills.

Three weeks ago when I had the turbo replaced he told me 'if you have
any problems, let me know'. I bought the car nine weeks ago. I have
199 weeks to go on the warranty.

I contacted the sales mgr and forwarded him the email dialogue I had
with this idiot. The last email is the one he shouldn't have sent. I
even gave him an out to reconsider and one week later, nada.

What a friggin' idiot. I kind of hope he gets his ass kicked out the
door. So much for the great service he promised me.

Oh, and the radio, I went thru the radio manual last saturday and
adjusted the sensitivity and the reception cleared up.

The sales idiot could have said "come over and let's take a look'; I
am about two blocks from the dealership. And when I spoke to the sales
mgr he didn't ask about the real source of the problem, the radio.
Another missed opportunity but they seem to never miss an opportunity
to do the wrong thing.

Maybe I shoulda bought the Camry.


>Cam,
>Well hey, if the 'puter says everything is ok, then it must be....right?
>Maybe they should have closed all the windows, shut the car down and then
>started it up and opened all the windows up again to be sure.....sorry, that
>was the punchline to the joke, but it seemed appropriate....
>The window mounted aerial uses an amplifier in the C-pillar - even the Type
>44's (100,200,V8) of the early 90's had those. "radically different"???
>wha? Was he looking at a circuit diagram or something? Sure, nothing works
>like metal in air, but obviously others had the problem and they solved it -
>bad grounds or connections at the amplifier. His reply sounds more like a
>"we don't want to be shown as wrong....so you should drop it". The booster
>you're looking for is already in your car - make it work and show how much
>they care for you.... That's why I do most of my own work - I care more
>than anybody. Sure, I didn't go to Audi school to be trained to work on my
>Type 44 (/Type 43/Type F-11 800), but then again, neither did most of the
>folks working at the Audi shops now. A bad ground or flaky connection has
>nothing to with specialization - the mechanics know that you'll freak out if
>they spend 2 hour$ tracing a loose wire.
>"Thus that fix will not be possible"....that's giving it the ol' College
>Try.....
>Cheers!
>Steve Sears
>1987 Audi 5kTQ - Type 44 - sing with me...."The License Plate bulb is
>connected to the Dash Lights...."
>1980 Audi 5k - Type 43...."The Dash Lights are connected to the Front Turn
>Signals...."
>1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes - Type F-11 800...."The Reverse
>Lights are connected to the Parking Lights....."
>(SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
>"Cam Newton" > wrote in message
...
>> On Fri, 21 May 2004 14:53:24 GMT, "FY" > wrote:
>>
>> I am a disciple of Adam Smith and Ricardo WRT to the specialization of
>> labour and comparative advantage.
>>
>> Here is the reply from the sales guy at the dealer:
>>
>> "Charlie showed me a technical diagram of the antenna on your A4, it
>> is radically different from the previous A4. Thus that fix will not be
>> possible. If the computer showed no fault with your antenna system
>> then it is working as it was designed. When the car companies decide
>> to work on aerodynamics and remove the mounted antenna in favour of a
>> window mount, the result is a more streamlined car, and a little less
>> reception in radio signal. "
>>
>> Now I am looking for a little booster that can be plugged into the
>> system.
>>
>>
>> >So sorry. When you said > >> Any ideas on how the radio could be adjusted
>> ><<<
>> >I thought you were looking for ways to get the AM to work.
>> >
>> >Since you are hands-off, and have no real interest in DIY, and don't
>expect
>> >to do a damn thig for
>> >4 years, you may want to take the vehicle to the dealer. Oh, wait, you
>did
>> >that, didn't you?
>> >
>> >Well, good luck on your quest.
>> >
>> >
>> >The dealer will REPLACE
>> >"Cam Newton" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> On Thu, 20 May 2004 11:10:29 GMT, "FY" > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Pull the radio and check the grounds and antenna connections behind
>the
>> >> >unit.
>> >> >You can pull it out far enough to move the wiring around, with the
>radio
>> >on,
>> >> >and see if it makes a difference.
>> >> >Bad grounding will kill the AM, but FM will still be working.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> This will be for the dealer to do. I put gas and washer fluid in the
>> >> thing and nothing else. I am a hands-off owner because I don't have
>> >> the tools or real interest in DIY. And because of the warranty, I do
>> >> not expect to do a damn thing at least for 4 years and generally for
>> >> the entire time I own the vehicle. But I am v interested in how the
>> >> vehicle functions, I just don't want to DIY.
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"Cam Newton" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> >> 2004 A4 Canadian model with very poor AM reception. Dealer told me
>it
>> >> >> is because the antenna is in the rear window. Bad excuse. FM is
>great.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have used the AS mode on the radio and it is the same reception;
>> >> >> that mode simply tells you what are the best six channels but does
>> >> >> nothing to improve reception.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Any ideas on how the radio could be adjusted or is there an after
>> >> >> market thing that might help.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>

Cam (ry?):
Well, now you see why many here have in NA been turned off from Audi - it
has nothing to do with the cars, and everything to do with many people who
are supposed to "stand behind the cars".
Because I don't have a 2004 I shouldn't offer suggestions or do some free
searching for you on the net to find what he and his coworkers should?
Yeah....right. I attended the Quattro Challenge at Mosport a few years back
(not because I had a new Audi, but as a guest of my local Audi dealer - PS -
Thanks Guys!) - I recall how the folks from Audi continually drummed into
the heads of the participants that:
a) Marketing surveys said that Audi owners were some of the most internet
savvy car buyers...if not _THE_ most.
b) Audiworld.com is there for enthusiasts.....check out
Audiworld.com......Have I mentioned Audiworld.com yet?
It's too bad that I did some troubleshooting at $0 that your dealership
should have been doing for their customer who may bring in future business
to the service, and in the future...sales....arms of the company. Instead
of digging up circuit diagrams, they should have been dialing
in.....um...Audiworld.com
It's true that I don't have an '04. I'd give my left arm for an RS6 (but
I'd need it for the turn signal switch). The folks posting on
Audiworld.com, however, _DO_ have _MANY_ '04's.....and 03's....and
'02's...etc. I'd say that I have very adequate resources.
He was right in one respect, though....You can now deal with service
directly - instead of Dis-service. Ask around for a better place to take
your car.


Oh yeah - good fix on the radio. Who gets the "RTFM!!!" award?

Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ - not an '04
1980 Audi 5k - not an '04
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes - not '04's
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"Cam Newton" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 21 May 2004 14:27:10 -0400, "Steve Sears"
> > wrote:
>
>
> I sent your reply to the sales idiot at the dealer and got this reply:
>
>
> "I don't care what this person says, He is not an Certified Audi
> Tech, he has no training, minimal experience, and improper tools and
> resources. He puts judgements on me and my co-workers, based on the
> what experience ? Does he have a 2004? Does he know me? No.
>
> I am disappointed that you would post my response on the internet, but
> I am confident with what I said. I thought that we where friends but
> it is now obvious that you don't trust me and I suggest that you deal
> with service directly from now on."
>
>
> I told him that I posted his 'reply' anonymously. I need to learn him
> some English and help him improve his reading skills.
>
> Three weeks ago when I had the turbo replaced he told me 'if you have
> any problems, let me know'. I bought the car nine weeks ago. I have
> 199 weeks to go on the warranty.
>
> I contacted the sales mgr and forwarded him the email dialogue I had
> with this idiot. The last email is the one he shouldn't have sent. I
> even gave him an out to reconsider and one week later, nada.
>
> What a friggin' idiot. I kind of hope he gets his ass kicked out the
> door. So much for the great service he promised me.
>
> Oh, and the radio, I went thru the radio manual last saturday and
> adjusted the sensitivity and the reception cleared up.
>
> The sales idiot could have said "come over and let's take a look'; I
> am about two blocks from the dealership. And when I spoke to the sales
> mgr he didn't ask about the real source of the problem, the radio.
> Another missed opportunity but they seem to never miss an opportunity
> to do the wrong thing.
>
> Maybe I shoulda bought the Camry.
>
>
> >Cam,
> >Well hey, if the 'puter says everything is ok, then it must be....right?
> >Maybe they should have closed all the windows, shut the car down and then
> >started it up and opened all the windows up again to be sure.....sorry,
that
> >was the punchline to the joke, but it seemed appropriate....
> >The window mounted aerial uses an amplifier in the C-pillar - even the
Type
> >44's (100,200,V8) of the early 90's had those. "radically different"???
> >wha? Was he looking at a circuit diagram or something? Sure, nothing
works
> >like metal in air, but obviously others had the problem and they solved
it -
> >bad grounds or connections at the amplifier. His reply sounds more like
a
> >"we don't want to be shown as wrong....so you should drop it". The
booster
> >you're looking for is already in your car - make it work and show how
much
> >they care for you.... That's why I do most of my own work - I care more
> >than anybody. Sure, I didn't go to Audi school to be trained to work on
my
> >Type 44 (/Type 43/Type F-11 800), but then again, neither did most of the
> >folks working at the Audi shops now. A bad ground or flaky connection
has
> >nothing to with specialization - the mechanics know that you'll freak out
if
> >they spend 2 hour$ tracing a loose wire.
> >"Thus that fix will not be possible"....that's giving it the ol' College
> >Try.....
> >Cheers!
> >Steve Sears
> >1987 Audi 5kTQ - Type 44 - sing with me...."The License Plate bulb is
> >connected to the Dash Lights...."
> >1980 Audi 5k - Type 43...."The Dash Lights are connected to the Front
Turn
> >Signals...."
> >1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes - Type F-11 800...."The
Reverse
> >Lights are connected to the Parking Lights....."
> >(SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
> >"Cam Newton" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> On Fri, 21 May 2004 14:53:24 GMT, "FY" > wrote:
> >>
> >> I am a disciple of Adam Smith and Ricardo WRT to the specialization of
> >> labour and comparative advantage.
> >>
> >> Here is the reply from the sales guy at the dealer:
> >>
> >> "Charlie showed me a technical diagram of the antenna on your A4, it
> >> is radically different from the previous A4. Thus that fix will not be
> >> possible. If the computer showed no fault with your antenna system
> >> then it is working as it was designed. When the car companies decide
> >> to work on aerodynamics and remove the mounted antenna in favour of a
> >> window mount, the result is a more streamlined car, and a little less
> >> reception in radio signal. "
> >>
> >> Now I am looking for a little booster that can be plugged into the
> >> system.
> >>
> >>
> >> >So sorry. When you said > >> Any ideas on how the radio could be
adjusted
> >> ><<<
> >> >I thought you were looking for ways to get the AM to work.
> >> >
> >> >Since you are hands-off, and have no real interest in DIY, and don't
> >expect
> >> >to do a damn thig for
> >> >4 years, you may want to take the vehicle to the dealer. Oh, wait, you
> >did
> >> >that, didn't you?
> >> >
> >> >Well, good luck on your quest.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >The dealer will REPLACE
> >> >"Cam Newton" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >> On Thu, 20 May 2004 11:10:29 GMT, "FY" > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Pull the radio and check the grounds and antenna connections behind
> >the
> >> >> >unit.
> >> >> >You can pull it out far enough to move the wiring around, with the
> >radio
> >> >on,
> >> >> >and see if it makes a difference.
> >> >> >Bad grounding will kill the AM, but FM will still be working.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> This will be for the dealer to do. I put gas and washer fluid in the
> >> >> thing and nothing else. I am a hands-off owner because I don't have
> >> >> the tools or real interest in DIY. And because of the warranty, I do
> >> >> not expect to do a damn thing at least for 4 years and generally for
> >> >> the entire time I own the vehicle. But I am v interested in how the
> >> >> vehicle functions, I just don't want to DIY.
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Cam Newton" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> >> 2004 A4 Canadian model with very poor AM reception. Dealer told
me
> >it
> >> >> >> is because the antenna is in the rear window. Bad excuse. FM is
> >great.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I have used the AS mode on the radio and it is the same
reception;
> >> >> >> that mode simply tells you what are the best six channels but
does
> >> >> >> nothing to improve reception.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Any ideas on how the radio could be adjusted or is there an after
> >> >> >> market thing that might help.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>

On Mon, 31 May 2004 11:32:13 -0400, "Steve Sears"
> wrote:

My Camry comment is about not caring what you drive. Call up the local
Toyato dealer and order a Camry XLE, silver or something like it and
no I don't need a test drive. Just get it ready for me by 3 pm
tomorrow thanks.

And I forgot to add that the sales mgr thingy didn't volunteer to
resolve the radio problem. That part of the discussion has been
missed. I have spoken with the owner and might have to elevate this a
bit more. I bought a Jetta there in '93 and I told the sales mgr it
was their sale to lose. They got the sale but damn the 'sales support'
is terrible.

I will definitely be spending more time in Audiworld. It will bug the
crap out of the service dept if I come up with a solution for some bug
in the car.

And I get the RTFM award; perhaps I should show the sales idiots at
the dealer and the service dept the entry on radio sensitivity. With
Audi's you really need to read the manual else damage could be done.

Thanks for you input.

Cheers

>Cam (ry?):
>Well, now you see why many here have in NA been turned off from Audi - it
>has nothing to do with the cars, and everything to do with many people who
>are supposed to "stand behind the cars".
>Because I don't have a 2004 I shouldn't offer suggestions or do some free
>searching for you on the net to find what he and his coworkers should?
>Yeah....right. I attended the Quattro Challenge at Mosport a few years back
>(not because I had a new Audi, but as a guest of my local Audi dealer - PS -
>Thanks Guys!) - I recall how the folks from Audi continually drummed into
>the heads of the participants that:
>a) Marketing surveys said that Audi owners were some of the most internet
>savvy car buyers...if not _THE_ most.
>b) Audiworld.com is there for enthusiasts.....check out
>Audiworld.com......Have I mentioned Audiworld.com yet?
>It's too bad that I did some troubleshooting at $0 that your dealership
>should have been doing for their customer who may bring in future business
>to the service, and in the future...sales....arms of the company. Instead
>of digging up circuit diagrams, they should have been dialing
>in.....um...Audiworld.com
>It's true that I don't have an '04. I'd give my left arm for an RS6 (but
>I'd need it for the turn signal switch). The folks posting on
>Audiworld.com, however, _DO_ have _MANY_ '04's.....and 03's....and
>'02's...etc. I'd say that I have very adequate resources.
>He was right in one respect, though....You can now deal with service
>directly - instead of Dis-service. Ask around for a better place to take
>your car.
>
>
>Oh yeah - good fix on the radio. Who gets the "RTFM!!!" award?
>
>Cheers!
>Steve Sears
>1987 Audi 5kTQ - not an '04
>1980 Audi 5k - not an '04
>1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes - not '04's
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>
>"Cam Newton" > wrote in message
...
>> On Fri, 21 May 2004 14:27:10 -0400, "Steve Sears"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>> I sent your reply to the sales idiot at the dealer and got this reply:
>>
>>
>> "I don't care what this person says, He is not an Certified Audi
>> Tech, he has no training, minimal experience, and improper tools and
>> resources. He puts judgements on me and my co-workers, based on the
>> what experience ? Does he have a 2004? Does he know me? No.
>>
>> I am disappointed that you would post my response on the internet, but
>> I am confident with what I said. I thought that we where friends but
>> it is now obvious that you don't trust me and I suggest that you deal
>> with service directly from now on."
>>
>>
>> I told him that I posted his 'reply' anonymously. I need to learn him
>> some English and help him improve his reading skills.
>>
>> Three weeks ago when I had the turbo replaced he told me 'if you have
>> any problems, let me know'. I bought the car nine weeks ago. I have
>> 199 weeks to go on the warranty.
>>
>> I contacted the sales mgr and forwarded him the email dialogue I had
>> with this idiot. The last email is the one he shouldn't have sent. I
>> even gave him an out to reconsider and one week later, nada.
>>
>> What a friggin' idiot. I kind of hope he gets his ass kicked out the
>> door. So much for the great service he promised me.
>>
>> Oh, and the radio, I went thru the radio manual last saturday and
>> adjusted the sensitivity and the reception cleared up.
>>
>> The sales idiot could have said "come over and let's take a look'; I
>> am about two blocks from the dealership. And when I spoke to the sales
>> mgr he didn't ask about the real source of the problem, the radio.
>> Another missed opportunity but they seem to never miss an opportunity
>> to do the wrong thing.
>>
>> Maybe I shoulda bought the Camry.
>>
>>
>> >Cam,
>> >Well hey, if the 'puter says everything is ok, then it must be....right?
>> >Maybe they should have closed all the windows, shut the car down and then
>> >started it up and opened all the windows up again to be sure.....sorry,
>that
>> >was the punchline to the joke, but it seemed appropriate....
>> >The window mounted aerial uses an amplifier in the C-pillar - even the
>Type
>> >44's (100,200,V8) of the early 90's had those. "radically different"???
>> >wha? Was he looking at a circuit diagram or something? Sure, nothing
>works
>> >like metal in air, but obviously others had the problem and they solved
>it -
>> >bad grounds or connections at the amplifier. His reply sounds more like
>a
>> >"we don't want to be shown as wrong....so you should drop it". The
>booster
>> >you're looking for is already in your car - make it work and show how
>much
>> >they care for you.... That's why I do most of my own work - I care more
>> >than anybody. Sure, I didn't go to Audi school to be trained to work on
>my
>> >Type 44 (/Type 43/Type F-11 800), but then again, neither did most of the
>> >folks working at the Audi shops now. A bad ground or flaky connection
>has
>> >nothing to with specialization - the mechanics know that you'll freak out
>if
>> >they spend 2 hour$ tracing a loose wire.
>> >"Thus that fix will not be possible"....that's giving it the ol' College
>> >Try.....
>> >Cheers!
>> >Steve Sears
>> >1987 Audi 5kTQ - Type 44 - sing with me...."The License Plate bulb is
>> >connected to the Dash Lights...."
>> >1980 Audi 5k - Type 43...."The Dash Lights are connected to the Front
>Turn
>> >Signals...."
>> >1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes - Type F-11 800...."The
>Reverse
>> >Lights are connected to the Parking Lights....."
>> >(SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
>> >"Cam Newton" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> On Fri, 21 May 2004 14:53:24 GMT, "FY" > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I am a disciple of Adam Smith and Ricardo WRT to the specialization of
>> >> labour and comparative advantage.
>> >>
>> >> Here is the reply from the sales guy at the dealer:
>> >>
>> >> "Charlie showed me a technical diagram of the antenna on your A4, it
>> >> is radically different from the previous A4. Thus that fix will not be
>> >> possible. If the computer showed no fault with your antenna system
>> >> then it is working as it was designed. When the car companies decide
>> >> to work on aerodynamics and remove the mounted antenna in favour of a
>> >> window mount, the result is a more streamlined car, and a little less
>> >> reception in radio signal. "
>> >>
>> >> Now I am looking for a little booster that can be plugged into the
>> >> system.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >So sorry. When you said > >> Any ideas on how the radio could be
>adjusted
>> >> ><<<
>> >> >I thought you were looking for ways to get the AM to work.
>> >> >
>> >> >Since you are hands-off, and have no real interest in DIY, and don't
>> >expect
>> >> >to do a damn thig for
>> >> >4 years, you may want to take the vehicle to the dealer. Oh, wait, you
>> >did
>> >> >that, didn't you?
>> >> >
>> >> >Well, good luck on your quest.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >The dealer will REPLACE
>> >> >"Cam Newton" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> >> On Thu, 20 May 2004 11:10:29 GMT, "FY" > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Pull the radio and check the grounds and antenna connections behind
>> >the
>> >> >> >unit.
>> >> >> >You can pull it out far enough to move the wiring around, with the
>> >radio
>> >> >on,
>> >> >> >and see if it makes a difference.
>> >> >> >Bad grounding will kill the AM, but FM will still be working.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> This will be for the dealer to do. I put gas and washer fluid in the
>> >> >> thing and nothing else. I am a hands-off owner because I don't have
>> >> >> the tools or real interest in DIY. And because of the warranty, I do
>> >> >> not expect to do a damn thing at least for 4 years and generally for
>> >> >> the entire time I own the vehicle. But I am v interested in how the
>> >> >> vehicle functions, I just don't want to DIY.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"Cam Newton" > wrote in message
>> >> >> ...
>> >> >> >> 2004 A4 Canadian model with very poor AM reception. Dealer told
>me
>> >it
>> >> >> >> is because the antenna is in the rear window. Bad excuse. FM is
>> >great.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I have used the AS mode on the radio and it is the same
>reception;
>> >> >> >> that mode simply tells you what are the best six channels but
>does
>> >> >> >> nothing to improve reception.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Any ideas on how the radio could be adjusted or is there an after
>> >> >> >> market thing that might help.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>

Cam,
I put the "ry?" there because I couldn't resist the comparison with your
name - heck, you could even partially de-badge it and make it your own
personal model.

Don't waste your time with the sales folks there - they got you into one of
their cars now, future purchases from you be darned. And if you're going to
get your car serviced at the same facility, don't beat them over the head
with Audiworld postings.....there is, after all, the Auto Repair equivalent
of a "spitburger".

Yes, there is important/helpful info in the manual about things other than
don't drink battery acid/stick head out sunroof and close it/check gas tank
with lit match/etc. Just make the necessary revision to the timing belt
change interval (change to "less than 60k miles").

Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ - CD trim without a CD player
1980 Audi 5k - S trim without the S-car attributes
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes - wooooo....deLuxe!!
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On Mon, 31 May 2004 16:47:40 -0400, "Steve Sears"
> wrote:

>Cam,
>I put the "ry?" there because I couldn't resist the comparison with your
>name - heck, you could even partially de-badge it and make it your own
>personal model.

I know. It is a coinky dink that part of my name is part of a car
name. And I really couldn't see myself in such a booooring car. Ever
unless it is a rental.

>
>Don't waste your time with the sales folks there - they got you into one of
>their cars now, future purchases from you be darned. And if you're going to
>get your car serviced at the same facility, don't beat them over the head
>with Audiworld postings.....there is, after all, the Auto Repair equivalent
>of a "spitburger".

The ****er is two weeks ago he said: come to me if you have a problem
and the real kicker is that buying from 'him' instead of another
dealer would get me extra help when I need it. So one off the benefits
of buying from 'him' has been negated.

Did I mention this guy is a flying flaming asshole?

>
>Yes, there is important/helpful info in the manual about things other than
>don't drink battery acid/stick head out sunroof and close it/check gas tank
>with lit match/etc. Just make the necessary revision to the timing belt
>change interval (change to "less than 60k miles").

I am pretty good about service and will be even more dilligent with
the A4.

Thanks again for your help.

Cheers

>
>Cheers!
>Steve Sears
>1987 Audi 5kTQ - CD trim without a CD player
>1980 Audi 5k - S trim without the S-car attributes
>1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes - wooooo....deLuxe!!
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>
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