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Old December 21st 10, 05:53 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
Brent[_4_]
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I believe I have on a number of occasions argued that part of traffic
enforcement was to pull over anyone at any time. To prove that cops'
excuses to pull people over were actually normal driving a lawyer had a
PI take video of cops driving. Oddly enough the cops don't drive any
differently than the accused client.

http://www.heraldtribune.com/article...king/101219827


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Old December 21st 10, 06:32 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
Nate Nagel[_2_]
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On 12/20/2010 11:53 PM, Brent wrote:
> I believe I have on a number of occasions argued that part of traffic
> enforcement was to pull over anyone at any time. To prove that cops'
> excuses to pull people over were actually normal driving a lawyer had a
> PI take video of cops driving. Oddly enough the cops don't drive any
> differently than the accused client.
>
> http://www.heraldtribune.com/article...king/101219827
>
>


so the accused deserved several tickets, then?

nate

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Old December 21st 10, 07:19 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
richard
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On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 04:53:49 +0000 (UTC), Brent wrote:

> I believe I have on a number of occasions argued that part of traffic
> enforcement was to pull over anyone at any time. To prove that cops'
> excuses to pull people over were actually normal driving a lawyer had a
> PI take video of cops driving. Oddly enough the cops don't drive any
> differently than the accused client.
>
> http://www.heraldtribune.com/article...king/101219827


They're just now finding this out?
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Old December 21st 10, 03:23 PM posted to rec.autos.driving
Brent[_4_]
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On 2010-12-21, Nate Nagel > wrote:
> On 12/20/2010 11:53 PM, Brent wrote:
>> I believe I have on a number of occasions argued that part of traffic
>> enforcement was to pull over anyone at any time. To prove that cops'
>> excuses to pull people over were actually normal driving a lawyer had a
>> PI take video of cops driving. Oddly enough the cops don't drive any
>> differently than the accused client.
>>
>> http://www.heraldtribune.com/article...king/101219827
>>
>>

>
> so the accused deserved several tickets, then?


good one... I don't know about deserved, not in the video anyway, but
most drivers who don't get tickets just don't get chosen.


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Old December 21st 10, 05:19 PM posted to rec.autos.driving
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On 12/21/2010 1:19 AM, richard wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 04:53:49 +0000 (UTC), Brent wrote:
>
>> I believe I have on a number of occasions argued that part of traffic
>> enforcement was to pull over anyone at any time. To prove that cops'
>> excuses to pull people over were actually normal driving a lawyer had a
>> PI take video of cops driving. Oddly enough the cops don't drive any
>> differently than the accused client.
>>
>> http://www.heraldtribune.com/article...king/101219827

>
> They're just now finding this out?

The newer cars that are front wheel drive, short wheel base, very little
caster.and now electric assisted steering tend to drift all around and
require almost constant fighting the wheel to degrees.
Only the most level roads with no semi ditches etc handle well with
these government committee mandated cars.
My little rear wheel, front engine car tracks so well you can steer it
with a finger and not have to contend with torque steer and braking and
static like gra b of electric boosted steering.
I hate driving our front wheel drive vehicle.
Our pu does great at tracking.
Just watch the traffic closely, on virtually any road and watch the
drifting.
The newer cars are somewhat responsible for many wrecks.imo
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Old December 21st 10, 10:16 PM posted to rec.autos.driving
richard
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On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 11:19:33 -0500, Lil Abner wrote:

> On 12/21/2010 1:19 AM, richard wrote:
>> On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 04:53:49 +0000 (UTC), Brent wrote:
>>
>>> I believe I have on a number of occasions argued that part of traffic
>>> enforcement was to pull over anyone at any time. To prove that cops'
>>> excuses to pull people over were actually normal driving a lawyer had a
>>> PI take video of cops driving. Oddly enough the cops don't drive any
>>> differently than the accused client.
>>>
>>> http://www.heraldtribune.com/article...king/101219827

>>
>> They're just now finding this out?

> The newer cars that are front wheel drive, short wheel base, very little
> caster.and now electric assisted steering tend to drift all around and
> require almost constant fighting the wheel to degrees.
> Only the most level roads with no semi ditches etc handle well with
> these government committee mandated cars.
> My little rear wheel, front engine car tracks so well you can steer it
> with a finger and not have to contend with torque steer and braking and
> static like gra b of electric boosted steering.
> I hate driving our front wheel drive vehicle.
> Our pu does great at tracking.
> Just watch the traffic closely, on virtually any road and watch the
> drifting.
> The newer cars are somewhat responsible for many wrecks.imo


yeah, right. blame it on the idiot driver more than the vehicle.
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Old December 22nd 10, 03:26 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
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On Dec 20, 8:53*pm, Brent > wrote:
> I believe I have on a number of occasions argued that part of traffic
> enforcement was to pull over anyone at any time. To prove that cops'
> excuses to pull people over were actually normal driving a lawyer had a
> PI take video of cops driving. Oddly enough the cops don't drive any
> differently than the accused client.
>
> http://www.heraldtribune.com/article...king/101219827


It is hardly news but it does prove the point. Follow any driver
long enough any a cop can find a legal reason to pull him over. Even
if not there is the old, reliable
'wandering in lane'. "I saw him over the centerline/fogline twice in
a 1/2 mile". Just try to prove you didn't.

Harry K
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Old December 22nd 10, 04:26 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
Nate Nagel[_2_]
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On 12/21/2010 09:26 PM, Harry K wrote:
> On Dec 20, 8:53 pm, > wrote:
>> I believe I have on a number of occasions argued that part of traffic
>> enforcement was to pull over anyone at any time. To prove that cops'
>> excuses to pull people over were actually normal driving a lawyer had a
>> PI take video of cops driving. Oddly enough the cops don't drive any
>> differently than the accused client.
>>
>> http://www.heraldtribune.com/article...king/101219827

>
> It is hardly news but it does prove the point. Follow any driver
> long enough any a cop can find a legal reason to pull him over. Even
> if not there is the old, reliable
> 'wandering in lane'. "I saw him over the centerline/fogline twice in
> a 1/2 mile". Just try to prove you didn't.
>
> Harry K


I love this

The investigator who created the video of officers, Nancy Smith, told
the judge that it was more difficult than she expected to get video,
since officers often exceeded the speed limit or sat idle for long
periods of time.

No ****....! she actually expected cops to not speed? Where the hell
has she been living?

nate

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Old December 22nd 10, 06:28 PM posted to rec.autos.driving
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On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 18:26:32 -0800 (PST), Harry K wrote:

> On Dec 20, 8:53*pm, Brent > wrote:
>> I believe I have on a number of occasions argued that part of traffic
>> enforcement was to pull over anyone at any time. To prove that cops'
>> excuses to pull people over were actually normal driving a lawyer had a
>> PI take video of cops driving. Oddly enough the cops don't drive any
>> differently than the accused client.
>>
>> http://www.heraldtribune.com/article...king/101219827

>
> It is hardly news but it does prove the point. Follow any driver
> long enough any a cop can find a legal reason to pull him over. Even
> if not there is the old, reliable
> 'wandering in lane'. "I saw him over the centerline/fogline twice in
> a 1/2 mile". Just try to prove you didn't.
>
> Harry K


I got stopped once in Tennessee and the cop used that excuse claiming my
trailer had crossed into the shoulder a few times.

Well like duhhh officer, do the math. 10 minus 8.5 leaves you with 1.5 feet
of space to work with. Divided by two, that leaves you 9 inches on either
side.
Besides, I can debunk his claim quite easily by the fact I had sway bars
installed and the trailer was NOT weaving as he claimed.

His other claim was, "I didn't see your trailer lights on but your
headlights were on".
Well duhhh, ever hear of daylight running lamps? My trailer lights would
not be on unless I flipped the switch.
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Old December 22nd 10, 06:32 PM posted to rec.autos.driving
richard
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On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 22:26:30 -0500, Nate Nagel wrote:

> On 12/21/2010 09:26 PM, Harry K wrote:
>> On Dec 20, 8:53 pm, > wrote:
>>> I believe I have on a number of occasions argued that part of traffic
>>> enforcement was to pull over anyone at any time. To prove that cops'
>>> excuses to pull people over were actually normal driving a lawyer had a
>>> PI take video of cops driving. Oddly enough the cops don't drive any
>>> differently than the accused client.
>>>
>>> http://www.heraldtribune.com/article...king/101219827

>>
>> It is hardly news but it does prove the point. Follow any driver
>> long enough any a cop can find a legal reason to pull him over. Even
>> if not there is the old, reliable
>> 'wandering in lane'. "I saw him over the centerline/fogline twice in
>> a 1/2 mile". Just try to prove you didn't.
>>
>> Harry K

>
> I love this
>
> The investigator who created the video of officers, Nancy Smith, told
> the judge that it was more difficult than she expected to get video,
> since officers often exceeded the speed limit or sat idle for long
> periods of time.
>
> No ****....! she actually expected cops to not speed? Where the hell
> has she been living?
>
> nate


Hell, practically every state trooper, county cop, and most city cops,
specially on the interstate, never drive under the speed limit.

Where I used to live in Wisconsin, the local state trooper was always 5 to
10 mph over the posted speed limit on the local streets.
 




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