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Old October 6th 07, 12:23 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.vw.aircooled
Juan
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Ladies/Gents,

I am looking for help regarding a problem I am having with my clutch
pedal on my 72 SB.

The pedal goes to the floor with very little resistance and no I can
no longer shift. At first, I thought that it was a broken cable but I
have replaced the cable and the Bowden tube (correct sag)...and the
same thing is still happening.

When the pedal is pressed, I can see the cable pulling the clutch
operating lever easily. In short, it feels as though the slight
resistance I am feeling on the pedal is nothing more than the return
spring on the clutch operating lever.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am hoping it is something
easy that I may have not thought of but I am guessing that I may be
pulling my engine for the first time.

Juan

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Old October 6th 07, 12:25 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.vw.aircooled
Juan
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Default Clutch Pedal

Oh!! One more thing...I have examined the cluster and cable hooks for
cracks and have found none.. THe hook was very worn but seemed like
there was still plenty left so as to not flex or bend.

On Oct 5, 7:23 pm, Juan > wrote:
> Ladies/Gents,
>
> I am looking for help regarding a problem I am having with my clutch
> pedal on my 72 SB.
>
> The pedal goes to the floor with very little resistance and no I can
> no longer shift. At first, I thought that it was a broken cable but I
> have replaced the cable and the Bowden tube (correct sag)...and the
> same thing is still happening.
>
> When the pedal is pressed, I can see the cable pulling the clutch
> operating lever easily. In short, it feels as though the slight
> resistance I am feeling on the pedal is nothing more than the return
> spring on the clutch operating lever.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am hoping it is something
> easy that I may have not thought of but I am guessing that I may be
> pulling my engine for the first time.
>
> Juan



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Old October 6th 07, 12:30 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.vw.aircooled
Speedy Jim
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Juan wrote:
> Oh!! One more thing...I have examined the cluster and cable hooks for
> cracks and have found none.. THe hook was very worn but seemed like
> there was still plenty left so as to not flex or bend.
>
> On Oct 5, 7:23 pm, Juan > wrote:
>> Ladies/Gents,
>>
>> I am looking for help regarding a problem I am having with my clutch
>> pedal on my 72 SB.
>>
>> The pedal goes to the floor with very little resistance and no I can
>> no longer shift. At first, I thought that it was a broken cable but I
>> have replaced the cable and the Bowden tube (correct sag)...and the
>> same thing is still happening.
>>
>> When the pedal is pressed, I can see the cable pulling the clutch
>> operating lever easily. In short, it feels as though the slight
>> resistance I am feeling on the pedal is nothing more than the return
>> spring on the clutch operating lever.
>>
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am hoping it is something
>> easy that I may have not thought of but I am guessing that I may be
>> pulling my engine for the first time.
>>
>> Juan

>
>



Long shot that the conduit tube in the tunnel may have
a broken weld and the tube is merely shifting as you press
the pedal. Look in the access hole while someone presses pedal.


Start studying Jan's article on pulling the engine:
http://www.geocities.com/bugfuel/pull_it.html



Speedy Jim
http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/
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Old October 6th 07, 01:07 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.vw.aircooled
Juan
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On Oct 5, 7:30 pm, Speedy Jim > wrote:
> Juan wrote:
> > Oh!! One more thing...I have examined the cluster and cable hooks for
> > cracks and have found none.. THe hook was very worn but seemed like
> > there was still plenty left so as to not flex or bend.

>
> > On Oct 5, 7:23 pm, Juan > wrote:
> >> Ladies/Gents,

>
> >> I am looking for help regarding a problem I am having with my clutch
> >> pedal on my 72 SB.

>
> >> The pedal goes to the floor with very little resistance and no I can
> >> no longer shift. At first, I thought that it was a broken cable but I
> >> have replaced the cable and the Bowden tube (correct sag)...and the
> >> same thing is still happening.

>
> >> When the pedal is pressed, I can see the cable pulling the clutch
> >> operating lever easily. In short, it feels as though the slight
> >> resistance I am feeling on the pedal is nothing more than the return
> >> spring on the clutch operating lever.

>
> >> Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am hoping it is something
> >> easy that I may have not thought of but I am guessing that I may be
> >> pulling my engine for the first time.

>
> >> Juan

>
> Long shot that the conduit tube in the tunnel may have
> a broken weld and the tube is merely shifting as you press
> the pedal. Look in the access hole while someone presses pedal.
>
> Start studying Jan's article on pulling the engine:http://www.geocities.com/bugfuel/pull_it.html
>
> Speedy Jimhttp://www.nls.net/mp/volks/- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Thanks Speedy,

Sounds like pulling the engine is the favorable option. Can this be
signs of a fallen TO bearing or broken shaft. My research is pointing
in this direction but I am not too sure if it is something I can
handle... I really don't even know what these things do. :-)

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Old October 6th 07, 01:24 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.vw.aircooled
Macsoft
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In article om>
> wrote:
> Oh!! One more thing...I have examined the cluster and cable hooks
> for cracks and have found none.. THe hook was very worn but seemed
> likethere was still plenty left so as to not flex or bend.


> On Oct 5, 7:23 pm, Juan > wrote:
>> Ladies/Gents,


>> I am looking for help regarding a problem I am having with my
>> clutch pedal on my 72 SB.


>> The pedal goes to the floor with very little resistance and no I
>> can no longer shift. At first, I thought that it was a broken cable
>> but I have replaced the cable and the Bowden tube (correct
>> sag)...and the same thing is still happening.


>> When the pedal is pressed, I can see the cable pulling the clutch
>> operating lever easily. In short, it feels as though the slight
>> resistance I am feeling on the pedal is nothing more than the return
>> spring on the clutch operating lever.


>> Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am hoping it is something
>> easy that I may have not thought of but I am guessing that I may be
>> pulling my engine for the first time.


>> Juan



try and remove the left rear wheel and pull the leaver hard by hand,
while afriend tries to shift.

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Old October 6th 07, 01:40 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.vw.aircooled
Speedy Jim
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Juan wrote:
> On Oct 5, 7:30 pm, Speedy Jim > wrote:
>> Juan wrote:
>>> Oh!! One more thing...I have examined the cluster and cable hooks for
>>> cracks and have found none.. THe hook was very worn but seemed like
>>> there was still plenty left so as to not flex or bend.
>>> On Oct 5, 7:23 pm, Juan > wrote:
>>>> Ladies/Gents,
>>>> I am looking for help regarding a problem I am having with my clutch
>>>> pedal on my 72 SB.
>>>> The pedal goes to the floor with very little resistance and no I can
>>>> no longer shift. At first, I thought that it was a broken cable but I
>>>> have replaced the cable and the Bowden tube (correct sag)...and the
>>>> same thing is still happening.
>>>> When the pedal is pressed, I can see the cable pulling the clutch
>>>> operating lever easily. In short, it feels as though the slight
>>>> resistance I am feeling on the pedal is nothing more than the return
>>>> spring on the clutch operating lever.
>>>> Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am hoping it is something
>>>> easy that I may have not thought of but I am guessing that I may be
>>>> pulling my engine for the first time.
>>>> Juan

>> Long shot that the conduit tube in the tunnel may have
>> a broken weld and the tube is merely shifting as you press
>> the pedal. Look in the access hole while someone presses pedal.
>>
>> Start studying Jan's article on pulling the engine:http://www.geocities.com/bugfuel/pull_it.html
>>
>> Speedy Jimhttp://www.nls.net/mp/volks/- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
> Thanks Speedy,
>
> Sounds like pulling the engine is the favorable option. Can this be
> signs of a fallen TO bearing or broken shaft. My research is pointing
> in this direction but I am not too sure if it is something I can
> handle... I really don't even know what these things do. :-)
>


You need to acquire a shop manual.

Like this:
http://www.bentleypublishers.com/product.htm?code=v179

You may find them used on eBay too.

Jim
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Old October 7th 07, 05:38 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.vw.aircooled
A Veteran
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In article .com>,
Juan > wrote:

> On Oct 5, 7:30 pm, Speedy Jim > wrote:
> > Juan wrote:
> > > Oh!! One more thing...I have examined the cluster and cable hooks for
> > > cracks and have found none.. THe hook was very worn but seemed like
> > > there was still plenty left so as to not flex or bend.

> >
> > > On Oct 5, 7:23 pm, Juan > wrote:
> > >> Ladies/Gents,

> >
> > >> I am looking for help regarding a problem I am having with my clutch
> > >> pedal on my 72 SB.

> >
> > >> The pedal goes to the floor with very little resistance and no I can
> > >> no longer shift. At first, I thought that it was a broken cable but I
> > >> have replaced the cable and the Bowden tube (correct sag)...and the
> > >> same thing is still happening.

> >
> > >> When the pedal is pressed, I can see the cable pulling the clutch
> > >> operating lever easily. In short, it feels as though the slight
> > >> resistance I am feeling on the pedal is nothing more than the return
> > >> spring on the clutch operating lever.

> >
> > >> Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am hoping it is something
> > >> easy that I may have not thought of but I am guessing that I may be
> > >> pulling my engine for the first time.

> >
> > >> Juan

> >
> > Long shot that the conduit tube in the tunnel may have
> > a broken weld and the tube is merely shifting as you press
> > the pedal. Look in the access hole while someone presses pedal.
> >
> > Start studying Jan's article on pulling the
> > engine:http://www.geocities.com/bugfuel/pull_it.html
> >
> > Speedy Jimhttp://www.nls.net/mp/volks/- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> Thanks Speedy,
>
> Sounds like pulling the engine is the favorable option. Can this be
> signs of a fallen TO bearing or broken shaft. My research is pointing
> in this direction but I am not too sure if it is something I can
> handle... I really don't even know what these things do. :-)


yes, pulling the engine and probably replacing the pressure plate. I had
this problem and a new p.p. was the fix.
good luck!

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Old October 11th 07, 05:08 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.vw.aircooled
AshMan
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Not sure if this will help...

There was a small article in a recent Hot VW magazine (Sep-Oct 2007
Tech Talk) that talked about two possible reasons for your problem:

1) The clutch disc mating surface on the flywheel is resurfaced
removing metal, but the mounting surface where the pressure plate
mounts is not cut down by the same amount. The disc sits in a deeper
recess and the clutch adjustment is affected.

2) Cheap clutch disks coming from China that are thicker than normal.
This means that after bolting down the pressure plate the springs/
fingers are already in a partially compressed state and the normal
pedal travel can't get the pressure plate to disengage. The
difference is not noticeable to the naked eye but it results in not
being able to fully disengage the clutch.


AshMan40



 




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