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  #21  
Old March 1st 07, 09:34 PM posted to alt.autos.honda,alt.honda,rec.autos.makers.honda
Brian Smith
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> wrote in message
ps.com...
>
> I was explaining to the OP that there are better deals and that
> for $5k he can get a car in better shape if he shops elsewhere.
> I don't have a problem if he buys a new Civic but a used one
> is not a good value that's all. I think I explained already
> that CIvic Si is on the list of my protege replacements
> along with RX-8 and EVO. (Mazdaspeed 3 won't cut it for me).
> In case you wonder what I'm doing on this NG in the first place.


From the experiences I have had over the years with any of the BIG 3
companies products, there is no way that any of them come close to being
better than a Honda.

I have owned GM and Ford vehicles that have more rattles, squeaks and
shakes than a ten year old Honda.


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  #22  
Old March 1st 07, 11:24 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
Gohan Ryu[_19_]
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Wrote:
> I was explaining to the OP that there are better deals and that for $5k
> he can get a car in better shape if he shops elsewhere.
> I don't have a problem if he buys a new Civic but a used one
> is not a good value that's all. I think I explained already
> that CIvic Si is on the list of my protege replacements
> along with RX-8 and EVO. (Mazdaspeed 3 won't cut it for me).
> In case you wonder what I'm doing on this NG in the first place.


08 Civics are very reliable LOL. Clearly we would want the opinion of
someone who asks about the reliability of a car that doesn't even exist
yet.

Ownership of one lemon Subaru isn't enough experience for you to
badmouth used Japanese imports. Anyone with any real, unbiased
experience could tell you that a used Civic is probably one of the best
deals around if you're looking for affordability and reliability and not
performance.

Wow you put 10K into a 7K car? And it's still not running? For 10K I
could have rebuilt it, turbocharged it, painted it...and had it running
perfectly, who the hell is your mechanic because I'll never go there.


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  #24  
Old March 3rd 07, 05:41 AM posted to alt.autos.honda,alt.honda,rec.autos.makers.honda
Mike Smith
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Brian Smith wrote:
> > wrote in message
> ps.com...
>> I was explaining to the OP that there are better deals and that
>> for $5k he can get a car in better shape if he shops elsewhere.
>> I don't have a problem if he buys a new Civic but a used one
>> is not a good value that's all. I think I explained already
>> that CIvic Si is on the list of my protege replacements
>> along with RX-8 and EVO. (Mazdaspeed 3 won't cut it for me).
>> In case you wonder what I'm doing on this NG in the first place.

>
> From the experiences I have had over the years with any of the BIG 3
> companies products, there is no way that any of them come close to being
> better than a Honda.
>
> I have owned GM and Ford vehicles that have more rattles, squeaks and
> shakes than a ten year old Honda.


I got rid of a Saturn (LS2) after 2 1/2 years 'cause of the rattles and
noises it was making. And it was only book valued at $8k by that time,
after having spent $21k for it new. I hear the Aura is much better, but
I'll let someone else risk their money.

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  #26  
Old March 3rd 07, 03:32 PM posted to alt.autos.honda,alt.honda,rec.autos.makers.honda
Brian Smith
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"E Meyer" > wrote in message
...
>
> Where did you get that tidbit? I have found the opposite to be true. The
> Hondas need more tlc than the Nissans.
>
> My Nissans (6 and counting) have all required less maintenance than my
> Hondas. Their ABS doesn't fail if you don't change the brake fluid every
> two years, their transmissions don't fail if you don't change the tranny
> fluid every two years, etc.


Brake fluid deteriorates as does transmission fluid. It only makes sense
to change fluids to prolong the life of the machinery.


  #27  
Old March 3rd 07, 06:48 PM posted to alt.autos.honda,alt.honda,rec.autos.makers.honda
E Meyer
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On 3/3/07 8:32 AM, in article [email protected], "Brian Smith"
> wrote:

>
> "E Meyer" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> Where did you get that tidbit? I have found the opposite to be true. The
>> Hondas need more tlc than the Nissans.
>>
>> My Nissans (6 and counting) have all required less maintenance than my
>> Hondas. Their ABS doesn't fail if you don't change the brake fluid every
>> two years, their transmissions don't fail if you don't change the tranny
>> fluid every two years, etc.

>
> Brake fluid deteriorates as does transmission fluid. It only makes sense
> to change fluids to prolong the life of the machinery.
>
>

Whether it makes sense is not the point. The point is that it doesn't
matter with the Nissans and it definitely does on the Hondas.

In fact, unlike Honda, changing brake fluid is not on the maintenance list
for any of the Nissans and changing transmission fluid is only by condition,
not time or mileage.

  #28  
Old March 3rd 07, 08:48 PM posted to alt.autos.honda,alt.honda,rec.autos.makers.honda
Brian Smith
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"E Meyer" > wrote in message
...
>
> Whether it makes sense is not the point. The point is that it doesn't
> matter with the Nissans and it definitely does on the Hondas.


But it matters to people who perform preventative maintenace on their
vehicles.

> In fact, unlike Honda, changing brake fluid is not on the maintenance
> list
> for any of the Nissans and changing transmission fluid is only by
> condition,
> not time or mileage.


Just because Nissan forgot to include it on heir 'list' doesn't mean
that it doesn't have (or shouldn't) be changed.


  #29  
Old March 3rd 07, 08:50 PM posted to alt.autos.honda,alt.honda,rec.autos.makers.honda
Brian Smith
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"E Meyer" > wrote in message
...
>
> Whether it makes sense is not the point. The point is that it doesn't
> matter with the Nissans and it definitely does on the Hondas.
>
> In fact, unlike Honda, changing brake fluid is not on the maintenance
> list
> for any of the Nissans and changing transmission fluid is only by
> condition,
> not time or mileage.


I should add that I am the manager for a truck fleet (all automatic
transmission equipped), the transmission fluid and filtres are replaced
every year as part of the fleet's preventative maintenance program.


  #30  
Old March 3rd 07, 09:24 PM posted to alt.autos.honda,alt.honda,rec.autos.makers.honda
jim beam
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Brian Smith wrote:
> "E Meyer" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Whether it makes sense is not the point. The point is that it doesn't
>> matter with the Nissans and it definitely does on the Hondas.
>>
>> In fact, unlike Honda, changing brake fluid is not on the maintenance
>> list
>> for any of the Nissans and changing transmission fluid is only by
>> condition,
>> not time or mileage.

>
> I should add that I am the manager for a truck fleet (all automatic
> transmission equipped), the transmission fluid and filtres are replaced
> every year as part of the fleet's preventative maintenance program.
>
>

what's that based on? analysis? manufacturer spec?
 




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