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2002 300M PCV hose not sold separately



 
 
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Old October 31st 13, 08:22 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
Percival P. Cassidy[_2_]
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Default 2002 300M PCV hose not sold separately

I changed the PCV valve on our car while I had the cross brace out to
get at the brake booster, but the PCV valve end of the hose was rather
hard, and I'm not sure that it's sealing well to the new PCV valve. The
rubber hose is larger at the PCV valve end than at the end that goes to
the water-jacketed section of metal tube -- and has a 90-degree bend in
just a short length of hose -- so I'm not sure that sold-by-the-foot
hose will work: it probably will kink. Went to the Chrysler dealer today
to buy the genuine article, only to be told that they sell only the
complete assembly with two rubber sections and the water-jacketed metal
section for approx. $150!!

Any good suggestions for a way around this?

Perce
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Old November 1st 13, 02:40 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
rob
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Default 2002 300M PCV hose not sold separately

take your old one to NAPA tell them you want to replace it end to end. they
can get it done most likely.


"Percival P. Cassidy" > wrote in message
...
>I changed the PCV valve on our car while I had the cross brace out to get
>at the brake booster, but the PCV valve end of the hose was rather hard,
>and I'm not sure that it's sealing well to the new PCV valve. The rubber
>hose is larger at the PCV valve end than at the end that goes to the
>water-jacketed section of metal tube -- and has a 90-degree bend in just a
>short length of hose -- so I'm not sure that sold-by-the-foot hose will
>work: it probably will kink. Went to the Chrysler dealer today to buy the
>genuine article, only to be told that they sell only the complete assembly
>with two rubber sections and the water-jacketed metal section for approx.
>$150!!
>
> Any good suggestions for a way around this?
>
> Perce
>



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Old November 1st 13, 03:30 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
Percival P. Cassidy[_2_]
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Default 2002 300M PCV hose not sold separately

I had asked at NAPA, and they told me I'd have to go to the dealer.

Perce


On 10/31/13 09:40 pm, Rob wrote:
> take your old one to NAPA tell them you want to replace it end to end. they
> can get it done most likely.
>
>
> "Percival P. > wrote in message
> ...
>> I changed the PCV valve on our car while I had the cross brace out to get
>> at the brake booster, but the PCV valve end of the hose was rather hard,
>> and I'm not sure that it's sealing well to the new PCV valve. The rubber
>> hose is larger at the PCV valve end than at the end that goes to the
>> water-jacketed section of metal tube -- and has a 90-degree bend in just a
>> short length of hose -- so I'm not sure that sold-by-the-foot hose will
>> work: it probably will kink. Went to the Chrysler dealer today to buy the
>> genuine article, only to be told that they sell only the complete assembly
>> with two rubber sections and the water-jacketed metal section for approx.
>> $150!!
>>
>> Any good suggestions for a way around this?

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Old November 1st 13, 04:28 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
rob
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Default 2002 300M PCV hose not sold separately

hm so they dont know how to put toether pieces and make one. too bad.

between fuel line, and pipe parts, most anything can be made.


"Percival P. Cassidy" > wrote in message
...
>I had asked at NAPA, and they told me I'd have to go to the dealer.
>
> Perce
>
>
> On 10/31/13 09:40 pm, Rob wrote:
>> take your old one to NAPA tell them you want to replace it end to end.
>> they
>> can get it done most likely.
>>
>>
>> "Percival P. > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I changed the PCV valve on our car while I had the cross brace out to
>>> get
>>> at the brake booster, but the PCV valve end of the hose was rather hard,
>>> and I'm not sure that it's sealing well to the new PCV valve. The rubber
>>> hose is larger at the PCV valve end than at the end that goes to the
>>> water-jacketed section of metal tube -- and has a 90-degree bend in just
>>> a
>>> short length of hose -- so I'm not sure that sold-by-the-foot hose will
>>> work: it probably will kink. Went to the Chrysler dealer today to buy
>>> the
>>> genuine article, only to be told that they sell only the complete
>>> assembly
>>> with two rubber sections and the water-jacketed metal section for
>>> approx.
>>> $150!!
>>>
>>> Any good suggestions for a way around this?

>



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Old November 1st 13, 05:09 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
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Default 2002 300M PCV hose not sold separately

"Percival P. Cassidy" wrote:

> but the PCV valve end of the hose was rather hard, and I'm not
> sure that it's sealing well to the new PCV valve.


I've never messed with my PCV valve - not sure how you would even know
that it needs replacing. Does the computer throw a code or something?

Is there enough hose before the bend so you could cut maybe 1/2" from
the end of the hose (the hardened part) so you have a fresh (soft)
section to connect to the valve?

> Any good suggestions for a way around this?


Have a look he

http://www.lhforums.net/forums/showt...ger-yay-or-nay

One suggestion - make the 90-bend with a short piece of metal pipe
(something from the plumbing section of home despot or similar). Then
all you need is a short length of straight tube.
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Old November 1st 13, 08:16 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
Percival P. Cassidy[_2_]
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Default 2002 300M PCV hose not sold separately

I still think it would be tricky because of the different sizes of the
hose at each end, and everything having to fit into just a few inches.
I'm trying to think of what oil-resistant right-angle fitting I could
get with different sizes on each arm.

I did Google the number that was stamped on the existing hose and found
a picture at some online Chrysler/Mopar vendor's Web site that seemed to
match what I needed but with the notation "Discontinued" .

Perhaps the simplest thing is to put a hose clamp on the PCV-valve end
of the existing hose.

Perce


On 10/31/13 11:28 pm, Rob wrote:
> hm so they dont know how to put toether pieces and make one. too bad.
>
> between fuel line, and pipe parts, most anything can be made.
>
>
> "Percival P. > wrote in message
> ...
>> I had asked at NAPA, and they told me I'd have to go to the dealer.
>>
>> Perce
>>
>>
>> On 10/31/13 09:40 pm, Rob wrote:
>>> take your old one to NAPA tell them you want to replace it end to end.
>>> they
>>> can get it done most likely.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Percival P. > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> I changed the PCV valve on our car while I had the cross brace out to
>>>> get
>>>> at the brake booster, but the PCV valve end of the hose was rather hard,
>>>> and I'm not sure that it's sealing well to the new PCV valve. The rubber
>>>> hose is larger at the PCV valve end than at the end that goes to the
>>>> water-jacketed section of metal tube -- and has a 90-degree bend in just
>>>> a
>>>> short length of hose -- so I'm not sure that sold-by-the-foot hose will
>>>> work: it probably will kink. Went to the Chrysler dealer today to buy
>>>> the
>>>> genuine article, only to be told that they sell only the complete
>>>> assembly
>>>> with two rubber sections and the water-jacketed metal section for
>>>> approx.
>>>> $150!!
>>>>
>>>> Any good suggestions for a way around this?

>>

>
>


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Old November 1st 13, 08:42 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
Percival P. Cassidy[_2_]
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Default 2002 300M PCV hose not sold separately

On 11/01/13 12:09 am, MoPar Man wrote:

>> but the PCV valve end of the hose was rather hard, and I'm not
>> sure that it's sealing well to the new PCV valve.

>
> I've never messed with my PCV valve - not sure how you would even know
> that it needs replacing. Does the computer throw a code or something?


The Owner's Manual does say to check it from time to time, but I don't
recall how often. The usual way to check, as far as I recall, is to
disconnect the hose with the engine running and check for suction by
putting a finger over the end of the PCV valve. But in my case the PCV
valve is not so easy to get at because of the cross member that runs
almost immediately above it, and there is very little room to manipulate
the hose to get it off. That's why I decided to replace it anyway ($6 or
so) while it was more accessible. The old one did still rattle (good
sign) but with a more muffled sound than the new one; IOW, it was
getting a little gummed up.

> Is there enough hose before the bend so you could cut maybe 1/2" from
> the end of the hose (the hardened part) so you have a fresh (soft)
> section to connect to the valve?


Maybe I could try that.

>> Any good suggestions for a way around this?

>
> Have a look he
>
> http://www.lhforums.net/forums/showt...ger-yay-or-nay


I'll think about the suggestions there.

> One suggestion - make the 90-bend with a short piece of metal pipe
> (something from the plumbing section of home despot or similar). Then
> all you need is a short length of straight tube.


That metal fitting would have to have different diameters on each end.

Maybe I'll just put a hose clamp on the PCV-valve end of the hose.

Perce
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Old November 2nd 13, 01:16 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
MoPar Man
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Default 2002 300M PCV hose not sold separately


I didn't know there was a heat exchanger on the PCV line. WTF is that
for, and how does it work?

The service manual doesn't even talk about it!
  #9  
Old November 2nd 13, 02:01 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
Percival P. Cassidy[_2_]
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Default 2002 300M PCV hose not sold separately

On 11/01/13 08:16 pm, MoPar Man wrote:
>
> I didn't know there was a heat exchanger on the PCV line. WTF is that
> for, and how does it work?
>
> The service manual doesn't even talk about it!


I don't know what it's for. IIRC from what I read, the 3.2l engine uses
a plain rubber hose.

Perce

 




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