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HP on a grade.... KiddingHisSelf wants to know......
On 5/6/2013 8:17 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
> On Mon, 6 May 2013 00:09:50 -0400, "Existential Angst" > > wrote: > >> "mike" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On 5/5/2013 8:28 PM, Existential Angst wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> NOW -- the 1960/70 Beetle had 42 hp (before it jumped to 54), at only >>>> 2,000#, so, contrary to the smugly ignerintKidding, the VW was MORE than >>>> capable of climbing max interstate grades at 60 mph. >>>> >>>> >>> My '64 beetle got 29MPG on the flatland in Texas. >>> Half a century later, why can't cars do better? >>> MUCH better?? >>> >>> I've talked with several people driving the "smart car". >>> They don't even do much better than my beetle. >>> What gives? >>> >>> Oh, my beetle didn't have any cup-holders...that must be it. >> >> I've been asking the same Q for years. >> Ed H. called my 1971 Datsun 510 "a tuna can with a motor"..... but what a >> tuna can!!! >> WAAAY over 30 mpg..... > > I thought your tuna can was a 210? That's the one I called a tuna can. > > The 510 was a mechanical copy of a BMW 1500. It was an excellent car > -- Japan's first high-volume production car made with a unibody. It > was the car to beat in several SCCA classes over the years, right up > through the mid-'80s when it was the fastest car in ITC (the Old > Junque class). > > The 210 was, IIRC, a body-on-ladder-frame structure. One excellent and > iconic Brit book on chassis said that type was obsolete in 1962. Only > 210s were made a decade later. d8-) > Hey, how can you not love a car than came in a "Honey Bee" version? <http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3429/3933344080_4ed2bc8615.jpg> -- T0m $herm@n |
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HP on a grade.... KiddingHisSelf wants to know......
On Mon, 06 May 2013 18:16:10 -0500, "T0m $herman"
> wrote: >On 5/6/2013 8:17 AM, Ed Huntress wrote: >> On Mon, 6 May 2013 00:09:50 -0400, "Existential Angst" >> > wrote: >> >>> "mike" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> On 5/5/2013 8:28 PM, Existential Angst wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> NOW -- the 1960/70 Beetle had 42 hp (before it jumped to 54), at only >>>>> 2,000#, so, contrary to the smugly ignerintKidding, the VW was MORE than >>>>> capable of climbing max interstate grades at 60 mph. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> My '64 beetle got 29MPG on the flatland in Texas. >>>> Half a century later, why can't cars do better? >>>> MUCH better?? >>>> >>>> I've talked with several people driving the "smart car". >>>> They don't even do much better than my beetle. >>>> What gives? >>>> >>>> Oh, my beetle didn't have any cup-holders...that must be it. >>> >>> I've been asking the same Q for years. >>> Ed H. called my 1971 Datsun 510 "a tuna can with a motor"..... but what a >>> tuna can!!! >>> WAAAY over 30 mpg..... >> >> I thought your tuna can was a 210? That's the one I called a tuna can. >> >> The 510 was a mechanical copy of a BMW 1500. It was an excellent car >> -- Japan's first high-volume production car made with a unibody. It >> was the car to beat in several SCCA classes over the years, right up >> through the mid-'80s when it was the fastest car in ITC (the Old >> Junque class). >> >> The 210 was, IIRC, a body-on-ladder-frame structure. One excellent and >> iconic Brit book on chassis said that type was obsolete in 1962. Only >> 210s were made a decade later. d8-) >> >Hey, how can you not love a car than came in a "Honey Bee" version? > ><http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3429/3933344080_4ed2bc8615.jpg> That's true! My sister-in-law had one, when I was dating my wife-to-be. It was so cute I wanted to puke. d8-) -- Ed Huntress |
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HP on a grade.... KiddingHisSelf wants to know......
On Mon, 06 May 2013 09:17:13 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote:
> I liked the handstraps on the old VWs. I miss them. And the shims on the > fan belt drive pulley that were supposed to let you easily adjust the > tension, but which tended to rust into a unified lump. That's brilliant engineering: as the car gets older, the belt loosens, but simultaneously the shims rust and swell, and cause the pulley to tension up the belt |
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