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Toward a manifesto on unmarked cars
In an incident a couple of years ago where I didn't stop for an
unmarked car, both the officer, and later, my so-called defense attorney said that I had no valid reason to doubt that it was police car. After all, they said, it was broad daylight on a well-traveled road (the Dulles Toll Road in Virginia at 10 AM). And never mind that I had been going 70, the average speed on that road (people slow down to 65, 10 over the limit, only when a visible radar trap is in place). ITEM: On Feb. 11, in the afternoon, on the Washington Beltway, a police impersonator in an unmarked car stopped and robbed a motorist. See the third item in http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2005Feb12.html In today's world, authentication works both ways. If your grandmother has to show a photo ID to board an airliner, you, a mostly law-abiding but sometimes daydreaming driver, have a right to see widely-accepted tokens of authentication before you stop your car for anybody. A car marked with no more than pretty blue flashing lights in the dashboard is not acceptable. I have no problem with unmarked cars doing surveillance, but sensible police departments will ban their use in actual traffic stops. -- (Charles Packer) http://cpacker.org/whatnews |
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or better yet, just shoot the ****ing pig, after all, why aren't pigs doing their GODDAMN JOBS and getting the crime rate to zero instead of harrassing taxpayers. the only good raffic cop is a DEAD traffic cop. "Skip" > wrote in message ... > On 14 Feb 2005 04:25:38 -0800, (Charles Packer) > wrote: > >>In an incident a couple of years ago where I didn't stop for an >>unmarked car, both the officer, and later, my so-called defense >>attorney said that I had no valid reason to doubt that it was police >>car. After all, they said, it was broad daylight on a well-traveled >>road (the Dulles Toll Road in Virginia at 10 AM). And never mind >>that I had been going 70, the average speed on that road (people >>slow down to 65, 10 over the limit, only when a visible radar trap >>is in place). >> >>ITEM: On Feb. 11, in the afternoon, on the Washington Beltway, >>a police impersonator in an unmarked car stopped and robbed >>a motorist. See the third item in >> >>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2005Feb12.html >> >>In today's world, authentication works both ways. If your >>grandmother has to show a photo ID to board an airliner, you, >>a mostly law-abiding but sometimes daydreaming driver, have a >>right to see widely-accepted tokens of authentication before you >>stop your car for anybody. A car marked with no more than pretty >>blue flashing lights in the dashboard is not acceptable. >> >>I have no problem with unmarked cars doing surveillance, but >>sensible police departments will ban their use in actual >>traffic stops. > > If you aren't sure if it's a unmarked police car or not, drive to the > nearest police station. If it's a phony it will be gone by the time > you get there. > > On the other hand, if it's the "principle of the thing", don't stop > and suffer the consequences if you are wrong. > |
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you have to remember, traffic pigs have to "prove their manhood" by stopping you because they have nothing else to offer. most of them have a 2 inch penis, and a brain the size of a walnut, with no common sense whatsoever. "Charles Packer" > wrote in message om... > In an incident a couple of years ago where I didn't stop for an > unmarked car, both the officer, and later, my so-called defense > attorney said that I had no valid reason to doubt that it was police > car. After all, they said, it was broad daylight on a well-traveled > road (the Dulles Toll Road in Virginia at 10 AM). And never mind > that I had been going 70, the average speed on that road (people > slow down to 65, 10 over the limit, only when a visible radar trap > is in place). > > ITEM: On Feb. 11, in the afternoon, on the Washington Beltway, > a police impersonator in an unmarked car stopped and robbed > a motorist. See the third item in > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2005Feb12.html > > In today's world, authentication works both ways. If your > grandmother has to show a photo ID to board an airliner, you, > a mostly law-abiding but sometimes daydreaming driver, have a > right to see widely-accepted tokens of authentication before you > stop your car for anybody. A car marked with no more than pretty > blue flashing lights in the dashboard is not acceptable. > > I have no problem with unmarked cars doing surveillance, but > sensible police departments will ban their use in actual > traffic stops. > > -- > (Charles Packer) > http://cpacker.org/whatnews |
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In article >, Skip says...
>If you aren't sure if it's a unmarked police car or not, drive to the >nearest police station. If it's a phony it will be gone by the time >you get there. If you're seriously offering this as a primary solution...what if I haven't the slightest idea where the nearest police station is? What's your secondary solution? -- (Charles Packer) http://cpacker.org/whatnews |
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"SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" > wrote in message news > > or better yet, just shoot the ****ing > pig, after all, why aren't pigs doing > their GODDAMN JOBS and getting > the crime rate to zero instead of harrassing > taxpayers. Because to do so would cost the government $$$ in having to try and incarcerate the real criminals out there. Far, far more profitable (aqnd easy) for them to harass taxpayers with civil violations like speeding and such. Excuse my sounding a little like judy, but if we were to start making speeders do jail time instead of paying a fine, I'm willing to gamble that you would see the amount of speed enforcement go way down as these thieving little juristictions start losing money to house/feed/provide medical care to all the new inmates... |
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Skip wrote: > On 14 Feb 2005 04:25:38 -0800, (Charles Packer) > wrote: > > > >ITEM: On Feb. 11, in the afternoon, on the Washington Beltway, > >a police impersonator in an unmarked car stopped and robbed > >a motorist. See the third item in > > > >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2005Feb12.html > > > >In today's world, authentication works both ways. If your > >grandmother has to show a photo ID to board an airliner, you, > >a mostly law-abiding but sometimes daydreaming driver, have a > >right to see widely-accepted tokens of authentication before you > >stop your car for anybody. A car marked with no more than pretty > >blue flashing lights in the dashboard is not acceptable. > > > >I have no problem with unmarked cars doing surveillance, but > >sensible police departments will ban their use in actual > >traffic stops. Shut up, you criminal coddler. Speeders are murderers and i want them caught and locked up like the deadly psychopaths they are. |
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Since you're an idiot, what does it matter what you want?
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