Town & Country Van

I am looking at two 2006 Town & Country vans. One has a 3.8L engine, the
other a 3.3L.

Would appreciate comments one engine versus the other regarding
reliability and known problems.

Also would appreciate any known problems with 2006 Town & Country vans
(Touring).

Thanks for your time and comments.

"Ford Driver" > wrote in message
...
>I am looking at two 2006 Town & Country vans. One has a 3.8L engine, the
> other a 3.3L.
>
> Would appreciate comments one engine versus the other regarding
> reliability and known problems.
>
> Also would appreciate any known problems with 2006 Town & Country vans
> (Touring).
>
> Thanks for your time and comments.
>
>

I am on my second one, but I think it is going to be my last.

I make no bones about it. I am a heterosexual male, with a wife and kids,
but I *love* my Minivan. Love it.

The first one I had, a loaded Town & Country circa 1996 ran as smooth as a
van could. Very easy ride. But the tranny goes at 100k. Everyone always told
me that, and I believed them, too.

The door mechanisms on that 1996 seemed a little under-engineered, or
perhaps the doors were just too heavy.

That one had the bigger 3.8l. No problems at all, and it gave me excellent
gas mileage. Just as good as the 3.3l I have now.

The car I have now is a 2001 T&C and I think Chrysler under engineered a few
pieces too many. The rack went out at 50k miles. I have *Never* had that
happen. The electric door sticks in cold weather. The ride isn't as nice
(it is not the top of the line, either), and whenever I get a rain, my big
serpentine belts squeaks.

Like I said, I think I am going to Honda, Toyota instead.

Same basic engine. I have had Chrysler minivans with the 3.0, 3.3, and
3.8. The 3.8 is the only one of this group to own. The 3.3 is
underpowered. The late 80s - early 90s transmissions were weak. We
traded our '96 off with nearly 200,000 miles and no tranny troubles.
The '01 is going strong at 90,000. Get the 3.8 even if you have to pay
more.

On Nov 9, 5:35*pm, "Ford Driver" > wrote:
> I am looking at two 2006 Town & Country vans. *One has a 3.8L engine, the
> other a 3.3L.
>
> Would appreciate comments one engine versus the other regarding
> reliability and known problems.
>
> Also would appreciate any known problems with 2006 Town & Country vans
> (Touring).
>
> Thanks for your time and comments.

The 3.8 will get better mileage than the 3.3. I've put 300,000 on these
transmissions without trouble. I'm not that lucky, so they can't be
that bad. Your belt squeals because the tensioner is bad.


> I make no bones about it. I am a heterosexual male, with a wife and kids,
> but I *love* my Minivan. *Love it.
>
> The first one I had, a loaded Town & Country circa 1996 ran as smooth as a
> van could. Very easy ride. But the tranny goes at 100k. Everyone always told
> me that, and I believed them, too.
>
> The door mechanisms on that 1996 seemed a little under-engineered, or
> perhaps the doors were just too heavy.
>
> That one had the bigger 3.8l. *No problems at all, and it gave me excellent
> gas mileage. Just as good as the 3.3l I have now.
>
> The car I have now is a 2001 T&C and I think Chrysler under engineered a few
> pieces too many. The rack went out at 50k miles. *I have *Never* had that
> happen. *The electric door sticks in cold weather. *The ride isn't as nice
> (it is not the top of the line, either), and whenever I get a rain, my big
> serpentine belts squeaks.
>
> Like I said, I think I am going to Honda, Toyota instead.

Well the 3.3 is only on the lower end vans (ususally shorties). In that
config. should be fine. In the long I will recommend the 3.8. They are VERY
trouble free engines, the trans is no better or worse than any other Jap or
not, just be sure to have it serviced regularly and PROPERLY with correct
fluid and filter (no aftermarket allowed) and it should be fine. If you have
any asperations to haul a load or tow make sure you get the tow group. Even
if you don't tow it's not a bad idea to get it.
"Ford Driver" > wrote in message
...
>I am looking at two 2006 Town & Country vans. One has a 3.8L engine, the
> other a 3.3L.
>
> Would appreciate comments one engine versus the other regarding
> reliability and known problems.
>
> Also would appreciate any known problems with 2006 Town & Country vans
> (Touring).
>
> Thanks for your time and comments.
>
>

The 3.3 and 3.8 are the same block. I have had the 3.0 and the 3.3.
STAY AWAY from the 3.0!!! it is, without a doubt, the biggest piece
of crap I have ever seen! When they get older they PUKE oil. I had
nothing but trouble with my 3.0 (built by Mitsubishi)

The 3.3 OTOH is a workhorse. The 3.3 and 3.8 are overhead valve
engines, what this means is NO TIMING BELT! There is a timing chain,
and it does not require frequent replacement like those pesky belts
do! The 3.3 I had in my 1994 seemed to get better gas mileage than the
3.3 in my 2002. I believe what one of the other posters said - if you
get a loaded van with all the toys, then the 3.3 is likely
underpowered and is working harder causing reduced gas mileage. I am
currently getting about 17 MPG city and 25 MPG highway in my 2002,
this compares with 20 MPG city and about 28 MPG highway that I was
getting with my 1994. (I have not moved, this is driving in the same
area and under similar condidions).

On my 1994, I had to replace the oil pan gasket at about 150,000 kms.
I replaced the head gasket (VERY rare on this engine) at about 128,000
kms, and the front crank seal (less than $100) at about 178,000 kms.
The belt tensioners on this engine tend to go between 150,000 to
180,000. Mine started to squeek at about 158,000 so I replaced it as a
preventive measure. Contacts in the starter required replacement
(about $80) at 140,000 kms.

Basically, if you PAY ATTENTION to your engine and do a litte
preventive maintenance, you wont have major problems. My 1994 NEVER
let me down - and I mean NEVER. Even when the trans went at about
135,000 km, there was plenty of warning. I had it rebuilt, and then it
got rebuilt a second time on warranty (correctly the second time!).
After that, the trans worked well for almost another 50,000 kms. At
about that time I had to get the solenoid pack replaced. With that
pack replaced, it shifted better than new!

The only really expensive repairs were the head gasket and the trans.
Head gasket problems are rare (just my dumb luck) and the newer
tranmissions are WAY better - as they should be! After a decade of
experimenting on the public, you would think the finally got it right.


I too, LOVE my mini-van. I have the Grand Caravan, and I can get ALL
my camping stuff in it - even the kids!

I would strongly recommend getting the "Stow and Go" seats if you can.
My newer van did not have them available at tha time - and I am
jealous of neighbours who DO have them! ANyone who has had to lug
around and find storage for removed seats will know EXACTLY what I am
talking about!

hth


On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 18:35:01 -0500, "Ford Driver" >
wrote:

>I am looking at two 2006 Town & Country vans. One has a 3.8L engine, the
>other a 3.3L.
>
>Would appreciate comments one engine versus the other regarding
>reliability and known problems.
>
>Also would appreciate any known problems with 2006 Town & Country vans
>(Touring).
>
>Thanks for your time and comments.
>

As both engines ARE an option on the LWB vans, the real questions might be:
(1) What kind of driving do you do and (2) How well equipped of a van are
you looking for?

(1) If you putter around town and spend a lot of time idling at traffic
lights, the 3.3 will serve you well and might eek out marginally better MPG.
On the highway, the differences MPG are negligible, but there is a distinct
power defecit in the 3.3 that appears during rapid acceleration and climbing
long slopes.

(2) While the 3.3 is an option, the higher end vans tend to favor the 3.8 as
standard equipment. The LXi ('04 and earlier) and Limited (all years), for
example, come standard with the 3.8. You can, however, find a gussied-up LX
('04 and earlier) with the 3.8 and many Touring editions will have the 3.8.

You can't really go wrong either way. Both engines are very reliable and
perform reasonably well. So don't worry about which you get; let the
options make the decition for you.

My 2 cents.

Bob


"jdoe" > wrote in message
...
> Well the 3.3 is only on the lower end vans (ususally shorties). In that
> config. should be fine. In the long I will recommend the 3.8. They are
> VERY trouble free engines, the trans is no better or worse than any other
> Jap or not, just be sure to have it serviced regularly and PROPERLY with
> correct fluid and filter (no aftermarket allowed) and it should be fine.
> If you have any asperations to haul a load or tow make sure you get the
> tow group. Even if you don't tow it's not a bad idea to get it.
> "Ford Driver" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I am looking at two 2006 Town & Country vans. One has a 3.8L engine, the
>> other a 3.3L.
>>
>> Would appreciate comments one engine versus the other regarding
>> reliability and known problems.
>>
>> Also would appreciate any known problems with 2006 Town & Country vans
>> (Touring).
>>
>> Thanks for your time and comments.
>>
>>
>
>

Thank you for the detailed review. The Stow and Go seats look mighty handy
to me. I have to remove the second row of seats in my Windstar and as you
said, have to find a place to store them.

In addition to the 2006 Chryslers that I am looking at, I am also going to
look at Dodge vans (same engine etc, just different cosmetics).

"NewMan" > wrote in message
...
> The 3.3 and 3.8 are the same block. I have had the 3.0 and the 3.3.
> STAY AWAY from the 3.0!!! it is, without a doubt, the biggest piece
> of crap I have ever seen! When they get older they PUKE oil. I had
> nothing but trouble with my 3.0 (built by Mitsubishi)
>
> The 3.3 OTOH is a workhorse. The 3.3 and 3.8 are overhead valve
> engines, what this means is NO TIMING BELT! There is a timing chain,
> and it does not require frequent replacement like those pesky belts
> do! The 3.3 I had in my 1994 seemed to get better gas mileage than the
> 3.3 in my 2002. I believe what one of the other posters said - if you
> get a loaded van with all the toys, then the 3.3 is likely
> underpowered and is working harder causing reduced gas mileage. I am
> currently getting about 17 MPG city and 25 MPG highway in my 2002,
> this compares with 20 MPG city and about 28 MPG highway that I was
> getting with my 1994. (I have not moved, this is driving in the same
> area and under similar condidions).
>
> On my 1994, I had to replace the oil pan gasket at about 150,000 kms.
> I replaced the head gasket (VERY rare on this engine) at about 128,000
> kms, and the front crank seal (less than $100) at about 178,000 kms.
> The belt tensioners on this engine tend to go between 150,000 to
> 180,000. Mine started to squeek at about 158,000 so I replaced it as a
> preventive measure. Contacts in the starter required replacement
> (about $80) at 140,000 kms.
>
> Basically, if you PAY ATTENTION to your engine and do a litte
> preventive maintenance, you wont have major problems. My 1994 NEVER
> let me down - and I mean NEVER. Even when the trans went at about
> 135,000 km, there was plenty of warning. I had it rebuilt, and then it
> got rebuilt a second time on warranty (correctly the second time!).
> After that, the trans worked well for almost another 50,000 kms. At
> about that time I had to get the solenoid pack replaced. With that
> pack replaced, it shifted better than new!
>
> The only really expensive repairs were the head gasket and the trans.
> Head gasket problems are rare (just my dumb luck) and the newer
> tranmissions are WAY better - as they should be! After a decade of
> experimenting on the public, you would think the finally got it right.
>
>
> I too, LOVE my mini-van. I have the Grand Caravan, and I can get ALL
> my camping stuff in it - even the kids!
>
> I would strongly recommend getting the "Stow and Go" seats if you can.
> My newer van did not have them available at tha time - and I am
> jealous of neighbours who DO have them! ANyone who has had to lug
> around and find storage for removed seats will know EXACTLY what I am
> talking about!
>
> hth
>
>
> On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 18:35:01 -0500, "Ford Driver" >
> wrote:
>
> >I am looking at two 2006 Town & Country vans. One has a 3.8L engine, the
> >other a 3.3L.
> >
> >Would appreciate comments one engine versus the other regarding
> >reliability and known problems.
> >
> >Also would appreciate any known problems with 2006 Town & Country vans
> >(Touring).
> >
> >Thanks for your time and comments.
> >
>

Thanks for your input. Several people have recommended the 3.8. I believe
I am also going to look at a tow package (probably haveto go to a 2007 as I
haven't seen leftover 2006s with the tow package.

"Bob Snyder" > wrote in message
...
> As both engines ARE an option on the LWB vans, the real questions might
be:
> (1) What kind of driving do you do and (2) How well equipped of a van are
> you looking for?
>
> (1) If you putter around town and spend a lot of time idling at traffic
> lights, the 3.3 will serve you well and might eek out marginally better
MPG.
> On the highway, the differences MPG are negligible, but there is a
distinct
> power defecit in the 3.3 that appears during rapid acceleration and
climbing
> long slopes.
>
> (2) While the 3.3 is an option, the higher end vans tend to favor the 3.8
as
> standard equipment. The LXi ('04 and earlier) and Limited (all years),
for
> example, come standard with the 3.8. You can, however, find a gussied-up
LX
> ('04 and earlier) with the 3.8 and many Touring editions will have the
3.8.
>
> You can't really go wrong either way. Both engines are very reliable and
> perform reasonably well. So don't worry about which you get; let the
> options make the decition for you.
>
> My 2 cents.
>
> Bob
>
>
> "jdoe" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Well the 3.3 is only on the lower end vans (ususally shorties). In that
> > config. should be fine. In the long I will recommend the 3.8. They are
> > VERY trouble free engines, the trans is no better or worse than any
other
> > Jap or not, just be sure to have it serviced regularly and PROPERLY with
> > correct fluid and filter (no aftermarket allowed) and it should be fine.
> > If you have any asperations to haul a load or tow make sure you get the
> > tow group. Even if you don't tow it's not a bad idea to get it.
> > "Ford Driver" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >>I am looking at two 2006 Town & Country vans. One has a 3.8L engine,
the
> >> other a 3.3L.
> >>
> >> Would appreciate comments one engine versus the other regarding
> >> reliability and known problems.
> >>
> >> Also would appreciate any known problems with 2006 Town & Country vans
> >> (Touring).
> >>
> >> Thanks for your time and comments.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

They are identical engines except for the bore and stroke. They are also
very reliable. I had a 3.8, but it was written off in an accident. I ended
up getting a 3.3 for a replacement and I would say I preferred the 3.8 for
the extra torque. I never towed with it at all, but after having driven the
3.8 for just over two years, I definately noticed the difference driving
around. There is really no significant difference with fuel econamy, so I
would go for the 3.8