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Old December 11th 07, 11:42 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
alfred[_3_]
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Default Synthetic Oil question

Hello,

My 2008 Accord now has 1000 miles on it. Its a month old. I am at 80% right
now, which I guess is good. I know that when I need the oil changed I should
wait until about 15% and my dealer which I will have the change done at uses
Synthetic. I think they use mobile 1 but I am not 100% sure on that. So is
there a difference on using Synthetic vs regular oil? Will the car perform
better in terms of more easily reving and picking up speed?

I noticed that right now the car is a little sluggish at lower rpms
especially in slow travel. Once you get the rpms up to 3000 or you are going
40 mph and then step on the gas its another story and the car really goes!
So I am wondering if thats because of the oil from the factory or just
because its the way the car is?

Thanks,
Al


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Old December 12th 07, 10:50 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
DodgeDriver
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Default Synthetic Oil question


"Polfus" <nostringscouldsecureyou@thestation> wrote in message
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>
> "alfred" > wrote
>

[snipped]
>
> But it could help with some good oil in there, as I always experienced a
> change in the way my motors ran with Mobil 1.
>

[snipped]

An automobile engine is not a motor.


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Old December 12th 07, 02:49 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
AZ Nomad
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On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:50:18 -0500, DodgeDriver > wrote:

>"Polfus" <nostringscouldsecureyou@thestation> wrote in message
...
>>
>> "alfred" > wrote
>>

>[snipped]
>>
>> But it could help with some good oil in there, as I always experienced a
>> change in the way my motors ran with Mobil 1.
>>

>[snipped]


>An automobile engine is not a motor.


Actually, it is.



mo·tor (m.'t.r) pronunciation
n.
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Old December 12th 07, 05:47 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
DodgeDriver
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"AZ Nomad" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:50:18 -0500, DodgeDriver >

wrote:
>
> >"Polfus" <nostringscouldsecureyou@thestation> wrote in message
> ...
> >>
> >> "alfred" > wrote
> >>

> >[snipped]
> >>
> >> But it could help with some good oil in there, as I always experienced

a
> >> change in the way my motors ran with Mobil 1.
> >>

> >[snipped]

>
> >An automobile engine is not a motor.

>
> Actually, it is.
>
>
>
> mo·tor (m.'t.r) pronunciation
> n.
>
> 1. Something, such as a machine or an engine, that produces or imparts
> motion.
> 2. A device that converts any form of energy into mechanical energy,
> especially an internal-combustion engine or an arrangement of coils and
> magnets that converts electric current into mechanical power.
> 3. A motor vehicle, especially an automobile: .It was a night of

lovers.
> All along the highway . motors were parked and dim figures were clasped in
> revery. (Sinclair Lewis).
>

Thanks for the information.


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Old December 12th 07, 08:27 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
alfred[_3_]
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Default Synthetic Oil question


>>
>> >An automobile engine is not a motor.

>>
>> Actually, it is.


>> mo·tor (m.'t.r) pronunciation
>> n.
>>
>> 1. Something, such as a machine or an engine, that produces or imparts
>> motion.


>>

> Thanks for the information.
>
>


Now that we have that out of the way we can continue with this tread about
benefits of Synthetic Oil.

I'm just wondering if there is a performance benefit in terms of letting the
car rev more freely?

Al


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Old December 12th 07, 09:39 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
Howard Lester[_1_]
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"alfred" wrote

> Now that we have that out of the way we can continue with this tread about
> benefits of Synthetic Oil.


Tread? Now you want to talk about tires, not oil! OH, wait -- tires are made
with oil.... never mind.

;-)


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Old December 13th 07, 03:08 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
jim beam
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alfred wrote:
>>>> An automobile engine is not a motor.
>>> Actually, it is.

>
>>> mo·tor (m.'t.r) pronunciation
>>> n.
>>>
>>> 1. Something, such as a machine or an engine, that produces or imparts
>>> motion.

>
>> Thanks for the information.
>>
>>

>
> Now that we have that out of the way we can continue with this tread about
> benefits of Synthetic Oil.
>
> I'm just wondering if there is a performance benefit in terms of letting the
> car rev more freely?


doesn't benefit revs, but there are benefits to synthetic. these
include better chemical stability, lower ash, slightly better lubricity
[with consequent slightly better fuel economy], better thermal
stability, etc. wikipedia has an article on it that contains some
useful information, but it tends to be vandalized quite often, so refer
to the page over several weeks to get an idea of average consensus.
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Old December 13th 07, 07:09 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
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Yours is a 4 cyl with AT transmission, no?

My 1989 Accord (242K miles and still running strong) does the same.
Slugglish acceleration through the gears, but after the torque
converter has locked up, i have to hold on to my seat cause it seems
the car is possessed by demons!!!

Honda Accord is a unique character while other mades are all the
same.

i've driven Honda, Buick, Ford, VW, Mazda, Toyota and i do think
Accords are somewhat unsuitale for city driving, But if i have to take
one to interstate travel, i'll take a Honda everytime

oh by the way, Castrol Syntec 5W-20 works best for mine


On Dec 11, 6:42 pm, "alfred" > wrote:
> Hello,
>
> My 2008 Accord now has 1000 miles on it. Its a month old. I am at 80% right
> now, which I guess is good. I know that when I need the oil changed I should
> wait until about 15% and my dealer which I will have the change done at uses
> Synthetic. I think they use mobile 1 but I am not 100% sure on that. So is
> there a difference on using Synthetic vs regular oil? Will the car perform
> better in terms of more easily reving and picking up speed?
>
> I noticed that right now the car is a little sluggish at lower rpms
> especially in slow travel. Once you get the rpms up to 3000 or you are going
> 40 mph and then step on the gas its another story and the car really goes!
> So I am wondering if thats because of the oil from the factory or just
> because its the way the car is?
>
> Thanks,
> Al


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Old December 13th 07, 01:27 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
ACAR
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On Dec 12, 10:08 pm, jim beam > wrote:
>
>
> doesn't benefit revs, but there are benefits to synthetic. these
> include better chemical stability, lower ash, slightly better lubricity
> [with consequent slightly better fuel economy], better thermal
> stability, etc. wikipedia has an article on it that contains some
> useful information, but it tends to be vandalized quite often, so refer
> to the page over several weeks to get an idea of average consensus.


When I first started using Mobil 1 synthetic, nearly 20 years ago, I
was able to measure a gain in mpg over conventional oil in my 1.6 I4
Honda engine. A few years ago I switched over an Accord at 15,000
miles and did not notice a significant mpg gain. There may have been a
gain but it could have been masked by season changes in fuel blend and/
or cold weather fuel consumption change. The point being that current
conventional oil is pretty darn good compared with current synthetic
offerings.

I continue to use synthetic for its superior thermal and chemical
stability that allows me to extend my oil change interval.
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Old December 13th 07, 01:37 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
jim beam
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Default Synthetic Oil question

wrote:
> Yours is a 4 cyl with AT transmission, no?
>
> My 1989 Accord (242K miles and still running strong) does the same.
> Slugglish acceleration through the gears, but after the torque
> converter has locked up, i have to hold on to my seat cause it seems
> the car is possessed by demons!!!


let me guess, you're not using honda z1 atf, just ordinary dexron atf,
right? typical symptom. believe it or not, if you change back to the
honda fluid, your transmission will become smooth again.


>
> Honda Accord is a unique character while other mades are all the
> same.
>
> i've driven Honda, Buick, Ford, VW, Mazda, Toyota and i do think
> Accords are somewhat unsuitale for city driving, But if i have to take
> one to interstate travel, i'll take a Honda everytime
>
> oh by the way, Castrol Syntec 5W-20 works best for mine
>
>
> On Dec 11, 6:42 pm, "alfred" > wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> My 2008 Accord now has 1000 miles on it. Its a month old. I am at 80% right
>> now, which I guess is good. I know that when I need the oil changed I should
>> wait until about 15% and my dealer which I will have the change done at uses
>> Synthetic. I think they use mobile 1 but I am not 100% sure on that. So is
>> there a difference on using Synthetic vs regular oil? Will the car perform
>> better in terms of more easily reving and picking up speed?
>>
>> I noticed that right now the car is a little sluggish at lower rpms
>> especially in slow travel. Once you get the rpms up to 3000 or you are going
>> 40 mph and then step on the gas its another story and the car really goes!
>> So I am wondering if thats because of the oil from the factory or just
>> because its the way the car is?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Al

>

 




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