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  #21  
Old June 17th 09, 10:51 AM posted to rec.autos.simulators
Andrew MacPherson[_2_]
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(jeffareid) wrote:

> This is my issue with RSC.


Step away from the soapbox and think about starving children, soldiers killed in
stupid wars, and trillion dollar bailouts for Wall Street millionaires.

Feel any better now?

No, I didn't think you would. ;-)

Andrew McP
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  #22  
Old June 17th 09, 11:39 AM posted to rec.autos.simulators
jeffareid
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>> This is my issue with RSC.

> Step away from the soapbox and think about starving children, soldiers killed in
> stupid wars, and trillion dollar bailouts for Wall Street millionaires.


> Feel any better now?


Obviously this isn't the greatest injustice ever inflicted on a person,
but I can still complain. If you had seen all the email I received from
RSC moderators, they were turning a molehill into a mountain, so I decided
to return the favor. Yes, on a worldly scale, it's a minor injustice, but
one that makes a bad world just a bit worse when people like those at RSC
decide on their own to unfairly punish their own members. The existance
of much greater wrongs doesn't justify a trivial wrong.









  #24  
Old June 17th 09, 07:51 PM posted to rec.autos.simulators
Alan Bernardo[_5_]
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"David Fisher's Left Testicle" <dfg.myass@aol> wrote in message
...
>
> "jeffareid" > wrote in message
> ...
>>> And do I seriously have to agree to the so-called "terms" every time I'm
>>> at a new forum for the first time?

>>
>> < General rule #5:
>> < All serious complaints about staff or users should not be
>> < publically posted by members.
>>
>> So non serious complaints about staff are OK then?
>>

> That's the sort of thing only a **** would do.


You have a serious problem. I wonder if you'd talk the same if
face-to-face.

I doubt it. It's nice and safe to talk like a bigshot when you have the
Internet behind which to HIDE.


Alan


  #25  
Old June 17th 09, 07:52 PM posted to rec.autos.simulators
Alan Bernardo[_5_]
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"David Fisher's Left Testicle" <dfg.myass@aol> wrote in message
...
>
> "jeffareid" > wrote in message
> ...
>>>> So non serious complaints about staff are OK then?

>>
>>> That's the sort of thing only a **** would do.

>>
>> So does this mean you'll be making non serious complaints
>> about staff?
>>

> You really are a crybaby sometimes. So they gave little you a yellow flag,
> big deal! Get over it.


Ah ha! He caught you with a little witty remark, and you covered yourself.


Alan


  #26  
Old June 18th 09, 12:18 AM posted to rec.autos.simulators
jeffareid
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> Now if we want to go all big picture here, as you suggest, then I would think that applies monumentally more to the
> idiot moderator and anyone else who would think this to be any legal issue whatsoever.


It was only a legal issue in the mind of a RSC moderator. In reality
it's not a legal issue until the actual copyright owner makes an claim
of ownership and states that the posting of the video is ok as is, or
requests the video is ok, but wants it to include credits for the copyright
owner (perhaps a link), or to have the video removed. This is how this
situation is handled by youtube and other file hosting sites.





  #27  
Old June 18th 09, 12:40 AM posted to rec.autos.simulators
David Fisher's Left Testicle
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"Alan Bernardo" > wrote in message
...
>
> "David Fisher's Left Testicle" <dfg.myass@aol> wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "jeffareid" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>> And do I seriously have to agree to the so-called "terms" every time
>>>> I'm at a new forum for the first time?
>>>
>>> < General rule #5:
>>> < All serious complaints about staff or users should not be
>>> < publically posted by members.
>>>
>>> So non serious complaints about staff are OK then?
>>>

>> That's the sort of thing only a **** would do.

>
> You have a serious problem. I wonder if you'd talk the same if
> face-to-face.
>
> I doubt it. It's nice and safe to talk like a bigshot when you have the
> Internet behind which to HIDE.
>

Let's meet up then. I'm in the UK. Where are you?

  #29  
Old June 18th 09, 10:44 AM posted to rec.autos.simulators
jeffareid
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> As someone 'pirating' music in the movies I've made, I partially agree with you.
> But what I've done is still illegal. Same goes, potentially, in this case.


Except in this case the video had been on several other web sites for
years, and I asked if I could mirror the video from one of those web sites
(which no longer exists and why I asked to mirror the video), and they responded
it was OK. This is different than using some file sharing or torrent program to
download music that was never intended to publicy available in the first place.

Everyone involved in the original discussion, except for RSC, agreed that
that no one was going to file an infrignement claim or ask for removal this
particula video, since the video was old (at least 3 years at the time),
and on several fan oriented web sites.

Note that there's no requirement for pre-emptive prevention of such
videos being posted, as demonstated by youtube. They aren't held responsible
for uploaded content until contacted by an entity claiming to own the
rights to the video. At this point, they are given reasonable time to
contact the original uploader to see if he contests the copyright claim.
The original uploader is given the chance to dispute the claim, in which
case the video remains, or the uploader can delete the video. If the uploader
doesn't respond, the video is removed.

If repeated infringements occur, the copyright owner will ask youtube to
pre-emptively remove uploads with certain key words in the desciptions.
Youtube has no ability to screen the actual video content with some sort
of AI viewer. The same video with out the key words will probably never
get detected (but never seen by many either).







  #30  
Old June 18th 09, 02:38 PM posted to rec.autos.simulators
Andrew MacPherson[_2_]
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(jeffareid) wrote:

> Youtube has no ability to screen the actual video content with some
> sort of AI viewer.


Perhaps not viewer, but there may be an AI listener. I've had movie soundtracks
rejected twice within seconds of uploading. They either have a huge team of people
monitoring things, or some kind of automated process to filter out at least some
well known tracks with distinctive musical 'signatures'.

Anyway, this is a side issue. The bottom line in all this is that forums are not
democratic; they don't have to be 'fair' (whatever that means) and they must be a
pain in the arse to run. I see people like yourself making that harder, not easier.
That seems, at the very least, impolite given that it's a free service.

Your dispute *may* have some kind of tenuous defamatory taint, but even if it did
it was within the forum; they didn't stamp your internet passport marking you out
as a potential troublemaker for all to see wherever you go. If they had I could
understand the 'my mate the lawyer says' stuff (even though such statements are
rarely a good sign).

As it is... well, I'm just impressed anyone takes forum life so seriously. Anyone
used to r.a.s over the years should have a thicker skin. :->

Andrew McP

 




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