Saturn hopes to beat Honda, Toyota in hybrid sales

In article et>, Kevin > wrote:
>Doug Miller wrote:
>> In article >, SnoMan
> > wrote:
>>
>> please fix your broken newsreader configuration
>>
>
>OK Doug, you are getting on my last nerve.
>
>either Killfile him, or drop it.

Sorry. Next time he posts another one of those " " idiocies, into
the Bozo Bin he goes.

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Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 01:30:08 GMT, (Doug Miller)
wrote:

>It obviously is *not* set up properly -- you just prepended *another* " "
>to the subject. And the reason that's a problem is that every time you change
>the subject, you create another separate thread.


It must be your client because I see no seperate thread here ever by
me unless I start one but I do see seperate threads created by others
when they do so. My software is working from my perspective and I have
been using Agent for over 10 years now too and you are the only one to
complain so perhaps you should look in your own backyard.
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TheSnoMan.com

On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 01:30:37 GMT, (Doug Miller)
wrote:

>please fix your broken newsreader configuration


Please get a life....
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TheSnoMan.com

On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:49:04 GMT, (Doug Miller)
wrote:

>Sorry. Next time he posts another one of those " " idiocies, into
>the Bozo Bin he goes.

Now it is name calling huh? WHo is the real BoZo here?
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TheSnoMan.com

In article >, SnoMan > wrote:
>On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:49:04 GMT, (Doug Miller)
>wrote:
>
>>Sorry. Next time he posts another one of those " " idiocies, into
>>the Bozo Bin he goes.
>
>Now it is name calling huh? WHo is the real BoZo here?

You did it again...

PLONK

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Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

In article >, SnoMan > wrote:
>On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 01:30:08 GMT, (Doug Miller)
>wrote:
>
>>It obviously is *not* set up properly -- you just prepended *another* " "
>>to the subject. And the reason that's a problem is that every time you change
>>the subject, you create another separate thread.
>
>
>It must be your client

This has been explained to you repeatedly. Go to Google Groups and LOOK AT
YOUR POSTS. It's YOUR CLIENT that's putting that stuff in there.

> because I see no seperate thread here ever by
>me unless I start one but I do see seperate threads created by others
>when they do so. My software is working from my perspective and I have
>been using Agent for over 10 years now too

Obviously you've had it configured incorrectly for ten years.

>and you are the only one to
>complain

FALSE -- and you know it. At least two other people have raised the same issue
with you in this newsgroup.

>so perhaps you should look in your own backyard.

Nope. Problem is entirely with the configuration of your client. Not my fault
you're unable to figure that out -- I tried.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

Snoman,

I also see the same problem with your subject line headers that Doug has
repeatedly pointed out and presume that others see this as well. Although
it does not affect my newsreader and the threads display correctly, I agree
that your configuration is not quite right and deserves looking into.

Bob

"SnoMan" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:10:01 GMT, (Doug Miller)
> wrote:
>
>>Please fix your broken newsreader configuration.
>>Tools | Options | Display | Message List Pane | Reply Prefixes
>>It should say re and nothing more -- but yours is blank.
>
> Give it a rest.... It is not blank and it is set up properly. I could
> make it blank though.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan > writes:

> On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 01:30:08 GMT, (Doug Miller)
> wrote:
>
>>It obviously is *not* set up properly -- you just prepended *another* " "
>>to the subject. And the reason that's a problem is that every time you change
>>the subject, you create another separate thread.
>
> It must be your client because I see no seperate thread here ever by
> me unless I start one but I do see seperate threads created by others
> when they do so. My software is working from my perspective and I have
> been using Agent for over 10 years now too and you are the only one to
> complain so perhaps you should look in your own backyard.

It's not just his client. In this article you just posted, the Subject:
line reads:

Subject: Saturn hopes to beat Honda, Toyota in hybrid sales

Let's check a public news server:

$ telnet freetext.usenetserver.com nntp
Trying 208.49.83.84...
Connected to freetext.usenetserver.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
201 free-text.usenetserver.com -- http://www.usenetserver.com/ (Tornado v1.0.6)
mode reader
201 free-text.usenetserver.com -- http://www.usenetserver.com/ (Tornado v1.0.6.380)
head >
221 203900 >
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From: SnoMan >
Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.saturn
Subject: Saturn hopes to beat Honda, Toyota in hybrid sales
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.... see? No newsreading client was even involved here. All those 's
are coming from you, not Doug's client.

-- Mark

"Doug Miller" > wrote in message
. ..
> In article >, SnoMan
> > wrote:
>>On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:10:01 GMT, (Doug Miller)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Please fix your broken newsreader configuration.
>>>Tools | Options | Display | Message List Pane | Reply Prefixes
>>>It should say re and nothing more -- but yours is blank.
>>
>> Give it a rest.... It is not blank and it is set up properly. I could
>>make it blank though.
>
> It obviously is *not* set up properly -- you just prepended *another* "
> "
> to the subject. And the reason that's a problem is that every time you
> change
> the subject, you create another separate thread.

Not on my reader. Here, it causes no problem of any sort. In fact, your
incessant whining is about 50x as obnoxious.

On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 01:04:26 +0000, a rock fell the sky, hitting SnoMan on
the head, and inspiring the following:

> On 28 Feb 2007 23:05:56 GMT, PerfectReign
> > wrote:
>
>>Well that is sad if true. I believe Diesel - far more than these expensive
>>and complicated hybrids - can lessen our reliance on the camel traders.
>
>
> I think I disagree because the answer may lie in a new breed of
> gas/flexfuel engine with direct injection and much higher compression
> ratios.

Okay, I hadn't read about that before.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_direct_injection

Sounds interesting and potentially usable for some items. I only wonder
if you can get the same torque out of a GDi engine.

Of course the latest common rail diesel (CRD) engines don't acutally use
direct injection anymore. The bosch injectors are actually more like the
ones in gas engines where the fuel is mixed prior to injection in the
cylinder. (At least that's how I underststand it.)

I just like diesel because of the ability to run on veggie oil and other
common items.

> If they would fully move coal based gas with a very high
> octane and stop providing support for 87 octane they could make large
> gains in MPG. One reason a diesel tends to get more MPG (other than
> the fuel having a bit more energy) is because of their very high CR
> that extracts more energy for expanding gasses as they burn.

Yes, hence turbos in gas engines. I see the CR is higher in GDi engines.
Interesting.

> just do not relize how much 87 holds things back because it limits
> efficency and compression. The use advanced knock control to mask it but
> it hurts MPG and power at times.

Yeah, but it is certianly cheaper when you're filling up your 30-gallon
tank at Costco for $2.41 as opposed to $2.85 for premium 89 octane.

(Obviously I'm referring to my Avalanche and not my wife's Vue.)


> I feel that when DI gas motors make it
> to the main stream that diesels will loose a lot of luster because even
> with current fuel DI allows for a CR increase of about 1 or 2 points and
> a increase on power and MPG by 10 to 15% . The CR increase is possible
> because the fuel is injected into cylinder just before ignition and this
> cools mixture and retards knock rather than the cooled mixture (after
> injection) being heated in head ports as it is drawn in.

Interesting argument. I wonder what will happen.


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