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Saturn hopes to beat Honda, Toyota in hybrid sales
In article >, SnoMan > wrote:
>On 28 Feb 2007 16:52:36 GMT, PerfectReign > wrote: > >>Man, that is a stupid idea. Here they have a perfectly good diesel like in >>the Opel Antara (Vue) and the Opel Vectra (Aura), yet they're not >>capatilizing on the option here in the US. > > >Diesels days in cars may be numbered. For many years they operated via >a loop hole in emission laws that let them release a LOT of NOx (may >times a normal car) and that loop hole starts to close with 2008 >models and it is not going to be cheap or easy to clean them up. They >are finaily "catching up" with them Please fix your broken newsreader configuration. Tools | Options | Display | Message List Pane | Reply Prefixes It should say re and nothing more -- but yours is blank. -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again. |
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Saturn hopes to beat Honda, Toyota in hybrid sales
In article >, SnoMan > wrote:
>On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:17:52 GMT, (Doug Miller) >wrote: > >>Please fix your broken newsreader configuration. >>Tools | Options | Display | Message List Pane | Reply Prefixes >>It should say re and nothing more -- but yours is blank. > > >Guess again, it is not blank and it does say "re" only too! (always >has) Then, as someone else suggested, change it to re re^2 re^3 -- 'cause it's still broken -- look at the subject of this post! Your newsreader is still inserting extra 's every time you reply. The problem *is* in your configuration. -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again. |
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Saturn hopes to beat Honda, Toyota in hybrid sales
On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:23:19 +0000, a rock fell the sky, hitting Doug
Miller on the head, and inspiring the following: > In article >, PerfectReign > wrote: >>On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:17:52 +0000, a rock fell the sky, hitting Doug >>Miller on the head, and inspiring the following: >> >>> In article >, SnoMan >> > wrote: >>> >>>>No that Saturn is fully part of GM and no longer on its "own" its long >>>>term viablity and competiveness is questionable. You buy a Saturn now >>>>you are basically buying a GM car with a different label which goes >>>>against the whole reason GM first created the brand. Also Saturn >>>>started as a econobox maker and GM is phasing that out to focus on >>>>SUV's which is another long term mistake along with dumping plastic >>>>body parts that set it apart for other vehicles as well. >>> >>> Please fix your broken newsreader configuration. >>> Tools | Options | Display | Message List Pane | Reply Prefixes >>> It should say re and nothing more -- but yours is blank. >>> >> >>Huh? >> >>Hey, at least he isn't using Outlook Express (and neither are you) - >>that's a good thing! > > Every time SnoMan replies to a reply, his incorrectly-configured newsreader > prepends a superfluous " " at the beginning of the subject line. Google up > a few threads that he's responded in multiple times, and you'll see posts > with subjects beginning " ". > > Here's a sampling: > http://groups.google.com/groups?as_e...up=rec.auto s. > makers.saturn > > I'm hoping eventually he'll realize that the problem really *is* with his > setup, and not with everyone else's. > Ahh, didn't notice. That would be a pain. I had used Forte (his newsreader) in a past life, and never noticed that. -- kai www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com www.filesite.org || www.donutmonster.com closing the doors that surround me so no one will ever penetrate complete my retreat just to wait for the day that never comes so i will laugh alone |
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Saturn hopes to beat Honda, Toyota in hybrid sales
On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:42:45 +0000, a rock fell the sky, hitting SnoMan on
the head, and inspiring the following: > On 28 Feb 2007 16:52:36 GMT, PerfectReign > > wrote: > >>Man, that is a stupid idea. Here they have a perfectly good diesel like in >>the Opel Antara (Vue) and the Opel Vectra (Aura), yet they're not >>capatilizing on the option here in the US. > > > Diesels days in cars may be numbered. For many years they operated via > a loop hole in emission laws that let them release a LOT of NOx (may > times a normal car) and that loop hole starts to close with 2008 > models and it is not going to be cheap or easy to clean them up. They > are finaily "catching up" with them Well that is sad if true. I believe Diesel - far more than these expensive and complicated hybrids - can lessen our reliance on the camel traders. -- kai www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com www.filesite.org || www.donutmonster.com closing the doors that surround me so no one will ever penetrate complete my retreat just to wait for the day that never comes so i will laugh alone |
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Saturn hopes to beat Honda, Toyota in hybrid sales
In article >, PerfectReign > wrote:
>On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:23:19 +0000, a rock fell the sky, hitting Doug >Miller on the head, and inspiring the following: >> Every time SnoMan replies to a reply, his incorrectly-configured newsreader >> prepends a superfluous " " at the beginning of the subject line. Google up > >> a few threads that he's responded in multiple times, and you'll see posts >> with subjects beginning " ". >> >> Here's a sampling: >> http://groups.google.com/groups?as_e...up=rec.auto s. >> makers.saturn >> >> I'm hoping eventually he'll realize that the problem really *is* with his >> setup, and not with everyone else's. > >Ahh, didn't notice. > >That would be a pain. I had used Forte (his newsreader) in a past life, >and never noticed that. That's because *you* had *your* installation of Forte configured correctly. -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again. |
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On 28 Feb 2007 23:05:56 GMT, PerfectReign
> wrote: >Well that is sad if true. I believe Diesel - far more than these expensive >and complicated hybrids - can lessen our reliance on the camel traders. I think I disagree because the answer may lie in a new breed of gas/flexfuel engine with direct injection and much higher compression ratios. If they would fully move coal based gas with a very high octane and stop providing support for 87 octane they could make large gains in MPG. One reason a diesel tends to get more MPG (other than the fuel having a bit more energy) is because of their very high CR that extracts more energy for expanding gasses as they burn. People just do not relize how much 87 holds things back because it limits efficency and compression. The use advanced knock control to mask it but it hurts MPG and power at times. I feel that when DI gas motors make it to the main stream that diesels will loose a lot of luster because even with current fuel DI allows for a CR increase of about 1 or 2 points and a increase on power and MPG by 10 to 15% . The CR increase is possible because the fuel is injected into cylinder just before ignition and this cools mixture and retards knock rather than the cooled mixture (after injection) being heated in head ports as it is drawn in. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
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Saturn hopes to beat Honda, Toyota in hybrid sales
In article >, SnoMan > wrote:
>On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:10:01 GMT, (Doug Miller) >wrote: > >>Please fix your broken newsreader configuration. >>Tools | Options | Display | Message List Pane | Reply Prefixes >>It should say re and nothing more -- but yours is blank. > > Give it a rest.... It is not blank and it is set up properly. I could >make it blank though. It obviously is *not* set up properly -- you just prepended *another* " " to the subject. And the reason that's a problem is that every time you change the subject, you create another separate thread. -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again. |
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Saturn hopes to beat Honda, Toyota in hybrid sales
In article >, SnoMan > wrote:
please fix your broken newsreader configuration -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again. |
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Saturn hopes to beat Honda, Toyota in hybrid sales
Doug Miller wrote:
> In article >, SnoMan > wrote: > > please fix your broken newsreader configuration > OK Doug, you are getting on my last nerve. either Killfile him, or drop it. |
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