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Ford Loses Record $12.7B in 2006



 
 
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  #11  
Old January 26th 07, 05:21 AM posted to alt.autos.ford,rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang,alt.trucks.ford
Some O
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Default Ford Loses Record $12.7B in 2006

In article ews.net>,
"Hawk" > wrote:

>
> "Mike Hunter" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Stockholders know that when a company is not profitable and deductible
> > business expenses exceed income, that is a good time to make tax free
> > capital investments. Ford is spending billons on a half dozen new
> > products and modernizing its plants.
> >

>
> and spending billions in paying off 50,000 slacker union workers to quit


The problem isn't the workers, mostly management's and slightly the
union's errors.
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  #12  
Old January 26th 07, 05:24 AM posted to alt.autos.ford,rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang,alt.trucks.ford
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Default Ford Loses Record $12.7B in 2006

Jeff wrote:

> "Old Man" > wrote in message
> link.net...
>
>>It might have something to do with the boycott. Ford is a faggot loving
>>supporter of queers.

>
>
> Yeah, right.
>
> I would rather give my business to Ford because they treat all people as
> human.


Even if they're not.

>
> Jeff
>
>

  #13  
Old January 26th 07, 05:58 AM posted to alt.autos.ford,rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang,alt.trucks.ford
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"Old Man" > wrote in message
hlink.net...
> Jeff wrote:
>
>> "Old Man" > wrote in message
>> link.net...
>>
>>>It might have something to do with the boycott. Ford is a faggot loving
>>>supporter of queers.

>>
>>
>> Yeah, right.
>>
>> I would rather give my business to Ford because they treat all people as
>> human.

>
> Even if they're not.


That is YOUR opinion, please dont spread that homophobic crap on the rest of
us. I tell ya, you are about as smart and worthless as the KKK. I am as
straight as they come, but I have known both Homosexual men and women, and
they are the same as you and I, only difference is their sexual preference..
So stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

>>
>> Jeff



  #14  
Old January 26th 07, 06:00 AM posted to alt.autos.ford,rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang,alt.trucks.ford
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"Hawk" > wrote in message
reenews.net...
>
> "Ford Tech" > wrote in message
> ...
>> OMG that site is such HORSE****!! They are siting Fords efforts to become
>> more diversified by adverstising in gay magazines and stuff??? Um, lets
>> see where does ford advertise for jobs? The answer to that is clear. They
>> advertise everywhere!!
>>
>> I can not believe anyone would take stock in that website, or that Ford
>> is either for or against homosexual activities..
>>
>> Let's be honest about this for a moment though. What is the fastest
>> growing group of people in the United States today? Its homosexual
>> people, and what do they buy? Cars... Who makes those cars? FORD.
>>
>> Ok so now that we have that out of the way. Now, yeah they are
>> advertising diversity in their workforce, but at the same time they are
>> gaining another view on their vehicles. What do you want them to just
>> forget about that group altogether? I wouldnt. If you ask me its just
>> smart advertising.
>>
>> Those freakin homophobes with that website need to pull their heads out
>> of their ass. Homosexuality is here to stay, might as well just get used
>> to it. Some 50,000 or 100,000 people in America out of some 300,000,000
>> people boycotting one auto maker is not going to make that big of a
>> difference in their profits for it to matter who they support, or
>> advertise with. In fact they wouldnt do it if they didnt think it would
>> be profitable for their business.
>>
>> Lets discuss that for a second. On one hand you are ****ing off about
>> what maybe 1,000,000 radical homophobes, and on the other hand you are
>> pleasing about 5-6,000,000 homosexuals? So where is the downside to
>> supporting homosexuality? From where I sit, there isnt one.
>>
>> Ford Tech
>>

>
> you must be a ford fag,


You my friend can fall in with that worthless POS "Old Man". You predujicial
POS. Like I said, I am as straight as they come, but you need to learn to
treat all people fairly. Ford is just doing what most would consider a "good
business practice".


  #15  
Old January 26th 07, 02:48 PM posted to alt.autos.ford,rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang,alt.trucks.ford
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"News Skimmer" > wrote in message
. net...
> ...and dog gonnit....people like me.
>
> Treat people as human. WTF? They treated me like **** when I figured out I
> had a burned valve in my 32v navigator while still in warranty and they
> declined to help me.
>
> Maybe I should have worn a skirt.


Or got a lawyer.


>
> "Jeff" > wrote in message
> news:Owduh.3216$R65.3147@trnddc01...
>>
>> "Old Man" > wrote in message
>> link.net...
>>> It might have something to do with the boycott. Ford is a faggot loving
>>> supporter of queers.

>>
>> Yeah, right.
>>
>> I would rather give my business to Ford because they treat all people as
>> human.
>>
>> Jeff
>>

>
>



  #16  
Old January 26th 07, 03:09 PM posted to alt.autos.ford,rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang,alt.trucks.ford
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Default Ford Loses Record $12.7B in 2006

On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:48:05 GMT, "Jeff" > wrote:

>Or got a lawyer.



Or used better gas. Lower octane fuel cause valves to vibrate in seats
when it knocks even below a audible level. This leads to erosion and
togehter with higher exhaust temps from retarded spark timing needed
with lower octane fuel, leads to eventual burning of valves. They do
not tell you that though.
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  #17  
Old January 26th 07, 03:32 PM posted to alt.autos.ford,rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang,alt.trucks.ford
Brent P[_1_]
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In article >, SnoMan wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:48:05 GMT, "Jeff" > wrote:
>
>>Or got a lawyer.

>
>
> Or used better gas. Lower octane fuel cause valves to vibrate in seats
> when it knocks even below a audible level. This leads to erosion and
> togehter with higher exhaust temps from retarded spark timing needed
> with lower octane fuel, leads to eventual burning of valves. They do
> not tell you that though.


The octane rating needed is clearly stated in the owners manual. If
higher octane than what is in the owners manual is needed, then the
resulting failures is still the manufacturer's fault.


  #18  
Old January 26th 07, 03:59 PM posted to alt.autos.ford,rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang,alt.trucks.ford
Duane Totty
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Ya'll are worring about the least thing just like our Governement! You need
to ask yourselves. Why after Ford has posted a $12.7B dollar loss why are
they still going to give Bonus and Compensation package to the upper
Management as they're taking from the Workers I don't care which way you
look at it the workers are the ones putting the Vehicle together, I would
love to see Mr. Bill Ford come on down lets strap that fender to the side of
that new Ford Shelby GT 500 with out scratching it. This is what ya'll need
to be worried about asking why were loosing our Benifits as they keep
theirs. ask yourselves why our pay has not gone up as fast as theirs. Ask
yourselve how a company can file Bankrupcy an turn around and give their new
CEO a $9M sign on bonus.


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"Ford Tech" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Old Man" > wrote in message
> hlink.net...
>> Jeff wrote:
>>
>>> "Old Man" > wrote in message
>>> link.net...
>>>
>>>>It might have something to do with the boycott. Ford is a faggot loving
>>>>supporter of queers.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, right.
>>>
>>> I would rather give my business to Ford because they treat all people as
>>> human.

>>
>> Even if they're not.

>
> That is YOUR opinion, please dont spread that homophobic crap on the rest
> of us. I tell ya, you are about as smart and worthless as the KKK. I am as
> straight as they come, but I have known both Homosexual men and women, and
> they are the same as you and I, only difference is their sexual
> preference.. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
>
>>>
>>> Jeff

>
>



  #19  
Old January 26th 07, 06:14 PM posted to alt.autos.ford,rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang,alt.trucks.ford
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Default Ford Loses Record $12.7B in 2006

In article > ,
"Duane Totty" > wrote:

> Ya'll are worring about the least thing just like our Governement! You need
> to ask yourselves. Why after Ford has posted a $12.7B dollar loss why are
> they still going to give Bonus and Compensation package to the upper
> Management as they're taking from the Workers I don't care which way you
> look at it the workers are the ones putting the Vehicle together, I would
> love to see Mr. Bill Ford come on down lets strap that fender to the side of
> that new Ford Shelby GT 500 with out scratching it. This is what ya'll need
> to be worried about asking why were loosing our Benifits as they keep
> theirs. ask yourselves why our pay has not gone up as fast as theirs. Ask
> yourselve how a company can file Bankrupcy an turn around and give their new
> CEO a $9M sign on bonus.

They need to get and keep people who may be able to help them.
Obviously they don't feel those they are letting go will be needed.
  #20  
Old January 26th 07, 06:16 PM posted to alt.autos.ford,rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang,alt.trucks.ford,alt.autos.toyota
Some O
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Default Ford Loses Record $12.7B in 2006

In article >,
SnoMan > wrote:

> Or used better gas. Lower octane fuel cause valves to vibrate in seats
> when it knocks even below a audible level. This leads to erosion and
> togehter with higher exhaust temps from retarded spark timing needed
> with lower octane fuel, leads to eventual burning of valves. They do
> not tell you that though.

Regular fuel is fine if the engine is designed for it.
I notice some engines with a CR too high for regular octane specify
regular can be used. Sure let it knock so we can adjust it, a sure way
to the troubles you mention.
IMO Toyota's Camry 3.5L V6 has too high a CR for the specified regular
fuel.
I Emailed Toyota about this and they said premium fuel is needed for
best performance. We could add for longer engine life eh!
 




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