I'll NEVER buy another VW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Matt B. wrote:
> "Mike Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
>> none2u wrote:
>>> Audi DSG is good, All others suck . Single clutch DSG transmission, Not
>>> as smooth as an automatic ,and not as involved as a manual.
>> How can a supposed "DSG" have a single clutch? The "D" in DSG stands for
>> *Dual*. If you mean other auto-shifting torque-converter-less manuals,
>> like BMW's SMG, then I agree, they're not nearly as good.
>
> well actually the 'D' stands for "direct"
>
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...ds+for%22+audi

Well, spank me and paint my ass purple. OK, then. But still, even
"D"-for-"Direct" implies that the shift is just that - *direct* from one
gear to another, rather than having to clutch-shift-declutch, which is
what makes the DSG so much smoother and quicker than, say, SMG.

--
Mike Smith

Richie wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:56:53 -0400, none2u wrote:
>
>> Audi DSG is good, All others suck . Single clutch DSG transmission, Not as
>> smooth as an automatic ,and not as involved as a manual.
>> "Mike Smith" > wrote in message
>
> They are all DUAL clutch and the tranny is fantastic.

All VW/Audi DSGs, yes. But not all auto-shifting gearboxes. BMW's SMG,
for instance, uses a single (multiplate, perhaps?) clutch - it's
basically a conventional manual tranny where the actual moving around of
gears is automated.

--
Mike Smith

In article >,
Lost In Space/Woodchuck > wrote:
>Many of the newer VW's have auto trans made by ASIAN(SP) from Japan. The
>Touareg uses such a unit as I'm sure also the New 05 Jetta & 06 Passat.
>Don't have my info books here now.

It's about time. If you can't beat them, join them. The Toyota AT is what
I would call the best automatic tranny. This tranny can to the distance
like a manual transmission.


>
>
>"Mike Smith" > wrote in message
...
>> Arrebeest wrote:
>>> Lost In Space/Woodchuck wrote:
>>>> 1- free repair
>>>> 2- Was a bulletin on it
>>>> 3- it's a USA thing- in Germany they don't use cars as traveling
>>>> restaurants 4- May be normal especially when cold. But I don't like
>>>> the pause either 5- VW is not the only company to use plastic
>>>> impellers. 6- ???
>>>>
>>>> 6 complaints in 63,000 miles and you call it junk?
>>>>
>>>> Good luck with your next ride.
>>>
>>>
>>> Another usa thing: automatic transmission.
>>
>> And VW's DSG is arguably the best automatic transmission in automotive
>> history.
>>
>> --
>> Mike Smith
>
>


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"Mike Smith" > wrote in
> All VW/Audi DSGs, yes. But not all auto-shifting gearboxes. BMW's SMG,
> for instance, uses a single (multiplate, perhaps?) clutch - it's basically
> a conventional manual tranny where the actual moving around of gears is
> automated.
>

I believe the lowly, and humble, Saturn auto tranny works that way, too. My
local tranny expert says the Saturn box is great.

Bill Longyard

William Longyard wrote:
> "Mike Smith" > wrote in
>> All VW/Audi DSGs, yes. But not all auto-shifting gearboxes. BMW's SMG,
>> for instance, uses a single (multiplate, perhaps?) clutch - it's basically
>> a conventional manual tranny where the actual moving around of gears is
>> automated.
>>
>
> I believe the lowly, and humble, Saturn auto tranny works that way, too. My
> local tranny expert says the Saturn box is great.

Which Saturn are you referring to? The Saturn LS2 I bought in 2000 had
a plain ol' GM automatic. You may be thinking of the CVT that Saturn
uses in some vehicles (like the VUE, IIRC). AFAIK no GM car in the US
uses a DSG or other computer-controlled gearbox like SMG.

--
Mike Smith

I'm talking about the SL series. I was told it was pretty much a manual box
with hydraulically controlled shifter.

Bill Longyard


"Mike Smith" > wrote in message
...
> William Longyard wrote:
>> "Mike Smith" > wrote in
>>> All VW/Audi DSGs, yes. But not all auto-shifting gearboxes. BMW's SMG,
>>> for instance, uses a single (multiplate, perhaps?) clutch - it's
>>> basically a conventional manual tranny where the actual moving around of
>>> gears is automated.
>>>
>>
>> I believe the lowly, and humble, Saturn auto tranny works that way, too.
>> My local tranny expert says the Saturn box is great.
>
> Which Saturn are you referring to? The Saturn LS2 I bought in 2000 had a
> plain ol' GM automatic. You may be thinking of the CVT that Saturn uses
> in some vehicles (like the VUE, IIRC). AFAIK no GM car in the US uses a
> DSG or other computer-controlled gearbox like SMG.
>
> --
> Mike Smith

William Longyard wrote:
> I'm talking about the SL series. I was told it was pretty much a manual box
> with hydraulically controlled shifter.

I've certainly never heard anything like that. Google doesn't give any
such information, but it does turn up this page:

http://www.autopartsfair.com/saturn-transmissions/

which makes it pretty clear that it's a traditional autobox with
planetary gearset and torque converter.

--
Mike Smith