Consumer Reports Strikes again, Dodge GC

Well, Consumer Reports' List of unreliable vehicles: (sure glad we bought a
Dodge GC AWD)
Anyone else concerned?

CR Bad Bets

Be especially careful when considering these models. They have shown several
years of much-worse-than-average overall reliability in their 1997 to 2004
models. They are listed alphabetically.

Audi A6
BMW 7 Series
Chevrolet Astro
Chevrolet Blazer
Chevrolet Express1500
Chevrolet S-10 (4WD)
Chevrolet TrailBlazer
Chrysler Town & Country (AWD)
Dodge Dakota (4WD)
Dodge Grand Caravan (AWD)
Ford Windstar
GMC Envoy
GMC Jimmy
GMC Safari
GMC Savana 1500
GMC Sonoma (4WD)
Jaguar S-Type
Jaguar X-Type

Jeep Grand Cherokee
Land Rover Discovery
Lincoln Navigator
Mercedes-Benz C-Class (V6)
Mercedes-Benz CLK
Mercedes-Benz M-Class
Mercedes-Benz S-Class
Oldsmobile Bravada
Oldsmobile Cutlass
Plymouth Neon
Pontiac Aztek
Saturn Vue
Volkswagen Golf
Volkswagen Jetta
Volkswagen
New Beetle
Volvo S80

Cars have improved reliability wise dramatically during the last decade.
Domestics are better than Japanese imports were when Japanese imports were
considered super reliable. Of course Toyota and Honda continue to increase
reliability so they are still on top. Most people consider their cars
pretty reliable these days except for some screw up designs including
expensive models from BMW and Mercedes. THere are lots of reasons to buy a
particular car.... reliability is only one factor to consider.


"Tao" > wrote in message
...
> Well, Consumer Reports' List of unreliable vehicles: (sure glad we bought
> a Dodge GC AWD)
> Anyone else concerned?
>
> CR Bad Bets
>
> Be especially careful when considering these models. They have shown
> several years of much-worse-than-average overall reliability in their 1997
> to 2004 models. They are listed alphabetically.
>
> Audi A6
> BMW 7 Series
> Chevrolet Astro
> Chevrolet Blazer
> Chevrolet Express1500
> Chevrolet S-10 (4WD)
> Chevrolet TrailBlazer
> Chrysler Town & Country (AWD)
> Dodge Dakota (4WD)
> Dodge Grand Caravan (AWD)
> Ford Windstar
> GMC Envoy
> GMC Jimmy
> GMC Safari
> GMC Savana 1500
> GMC Sonoma (4WD)
> Jaguar S-Type
> Jaguar X-Type
>
> Jeep Grand Cherokee
> Land Rover Discovery
> Lincoln Navigator
> Mercedes-Benz C-Class (V6)
> Mercedes-Benz CLK
> Mercedes-Benz M-Class
> Mercedes-Benz S-Class
> Oldsmobile Bravada
> Oldsmobile Cutlass
> Plymouth Neon
> Pontiac Aztek
> Saturn Vue
> Volkswagen Golf
> Volkswagen Jetta
> Volkswagen
> New Beetle
> Volvo S80
>
>
>

"Tao" > wrote in message
...
> Well, Consumer Reports' List of unreliable vehicles: (sure glad we bought
> a Dodge GC AWD)
> Anyone else concerned?

No, CR doesn't use scientific methods.

Although notice how many European cars there are, even ones of prestige.
People don't believe me when I tell them European cars are built as bad, if
not worse than NA cars, plus parts and prices are much higher. Although that
isn't really that good now that Chrysler is owned by Daimler.

Also they list the Plymouth Neon... not the Dodge Neon... Last I checked
Dodges sold more, so there'd be more Dodge data.

Pontiac Aztek but not Buick Aztek ^H Rendezvous.

Lincoln Navigator but not Ford Expedition

Yet they do repeat some vehicles, like GC and T&C, and they some GM trucks:
Jimmy/Blazer, Safari/Astro, etc.

How old is this list?

There is a good reason why some "twins" may not both be listed. The twins
may not share a particular troublesome component so one might be reliable
and the other a lemon.


"Bill 2" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Tao" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Well, Consumer Reports' List of unreliable vehicles: (sure glad we bought
>> a Dodge GC AWD)
>> Anyone else concerned?
>
> No, CR doesn't use scientific methods.
>
> Although notice how many European cars there are, even ones of prestige.
> People don't believe me when I tell them European cars are built as bad,
> if not worse than NA cars, plus parts and prices are much higher. Although
> that isn't really that good now that Chrysler is owned by Daimler.
>
> Also they list the Plymouth Neon... not the Dodge Neon... Last I checked
> Dodges sold more, so there'd be more Dodge data.
>
> Pontiac Aztek but not Buick Aztek ^H Rendezvous.
>
> Lincoln Navigator but not Ford Expedition
>
> Yet they do repeat some vehicles, like GC and T&C, and they some GM
> trucks: Jimmy/Blazer, Safari/Astro, etc.
>
> How old is this list?
>

Tao wrote:

> Well, Consumer Reports' List of unreliable vehicles: (sure glad we bought a
> Dodge GC AWD)
> Anyone else concerned?


Our FWD GC hasn't performed much better.

Art wrote:

> Of course Toyota and Honda continue to increase
> reliability so they are still on top.

On what planet?

CR Bad Bets

Be especially careful when considering these models. They have shown
several years of much-worse-than-average overall reliability in their
1997 to 2004 models. They are listed alphabetically.

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=A0 =A0 =A0 Oldsmobile Cutlass

____Reply Separator_____

Wow! Telling someone to avoid a model that was last made in 1999
doesn't take a hell of a lot of b@!!$.

Toss the Consumer Reports garbage. They don't know jack!

Larry
Behold Beware Believe

"Tao" > wrote in message
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| Well, Consumer Reports' List of unreliable vehicles: (sure glad we bought
a
| Dodge GC AWD)
| Anyone else concerned?
|
| CR Bad Bets
| <<snip>>

"Art" > wrote in message
nk.net...
> There is a good reason why some "twins" may not both be listed. The twins
> may not share a particular troublesome component so one might be reliable
> and the other a lemon.

What is the difference between a Plymouth and Dodge Neon? Is the badging on
the trunk causing the Plymouths to be unreliable?

Bill 2 wrote:
> "Art" > wrote in message
> nk.net...
>
>>There is a good reason why some "twins" may not both be listed. The twins
>>may not share a particular troublesome component so one might be reliable
>>and the other a lemon.
>
>
> What is the difference between a Plymouth and Dodge Neon? Is the badging on
> the trunk causing the Plymouths to be unreliable?
>
>


Are they made on the same assembly line? Same plant? Same parts and
suppliers?